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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    This is not the behaviour of a scientist! Of course is not!
    At least not honest ones.

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  • Pooka1
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    Get some rest, Fer. Try again later.

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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
    One of the forum members stated Weiss told him this in a communication. Do you remember?

    I don't know if Weiss is in the SRS. I doubt it.
    So you cannot be sure about what you said:

    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
    He admitted he failed, admitted PT can't control curvature
    Do you know how many people around the world may be reading your categorical sentence? Do you know that much of them may be considering Schroth as a way to avoid something so hard as surgery is? And you are saying that without being sure.
    This is not the behaviour of a scientist! Of course is not!

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  • flerc
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    It seems it was also what he saw so he decide to took his child out of brace. Where I may found this scientist in the net? Which is his name?

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  • flerc
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    Ok they can avoid a surgery for you as probably taking a bath every day also can.

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  • Pooka1
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    Do you want I quote all what you said about parents trying with braces? More general, with any non surgical option? Why you may said that since all what you said about non surgical methods, something so irrational for you as Tarot, astrology.. ? You denied how much logic is to see brace as a reasonable option to avoid surgery!
    You are not following along. You don't understand my arguments. I suggest you stop commenting.

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  • flerc
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    Do you want I quote all what you said about parents trying with braces? More general, with any non surgical option? Why you may said that since all what you said about non surgical methods, something so irrational for you as Tarot, astrology.. ? You denied how much logic is to see brace as a reasonable option to avoid surgery!

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  • Pooka1
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    as you say in a categorical way that braces don't work, they cannot avoid a surgery.
    I NEVER said that.

    I suggest you stop commenting if you can't follow along enough to know what I am saying.

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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
    Concerned Dad, a scientist like myself focused on evidence, was convinced of my REPEATING the arguments of experts in this field about lack of evidence of bracing and took his child out of brace. She made it well past the point of skeletal maturity sub-surgical. It was only years after she was mature that her curve progressed. She was saved from failed bracing.

    He LOOKED at the papers and saw the train wreck. That's all I did. Anyone who looks at the bracing literature honestly will see the same thing.
    Ok, you don't care what may happen with adults as that case I remember well. Also not young adults, no? So if they take a bad decision for their body after reading your posts is not your problem. What a strange interpretation about what is ethical and what not!
    Why you don't prove you are a scientist? Kevin did it without any problem. He is enough honest and smart of course to know how much he may influence in people saying to be a scientist. If it would be true, something too much dificult to believe, it would sure be the only case around the world doing what you are doing here in the the way you are doing it.
    Surgeons, physicians, may confuse some things for instance evidence with published evidence as it seems to be happening with you. And certainly show me a scientist saying as you say in a categorical way that braces don't work, they cannot avoid a surgery. It's enough evidence to think they can of course!
    Last edited by flerc; 07-19-2015, 08:25 PM.

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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post

    I care about their kids.
    What a way to take care about their kids! Trying they parents decide surgery for them discarding any other option! Nobody might know if at least just one of them could have avoided surgery! Immoral is not enough to say!

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  • Pooka1
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    You also tried to convince adults to see surgery for them as the only one option and certainly you have a proved success at least in one case.. and he was not precisely grateful!
    Adults, parents of kids or teens or young adults.. is the same for you. In every case you used the same ummoral ruses. Is clear you cannot do it in other way.
    Concerned Dad, a scientist like myself focused on evidence, was convinced of my REPEATING the arguments of experts in this field about lack of evidence of bracing and took his child out of brace. She made it well past the point of skeletal maturity sub-surgical. It was only years after she was mature that her curve progressed. She was saved from failed bracing.

    He LOOKED at the papers and saw the train wreck. That's all I did. Anyone who looks at the bracing literature honestly will see the same thing.

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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
    I am beyond caring about autonomous adults who live in demon-haunted worlds.

    I care about their kids born into those imaginary worlds.
    You also tried to convince adults to see surgery for them as the only one option and certainly you have a proved success at least in one case.. and he was not precisely grateful!
    Adults, parents of kids or teens or young adults.. is the same for you. In every case you used the same ummoral ruses. Is clear you cannot do it in other way.
    Last edited by flerc; 07-19-2015, 06:41 PM.

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  • Pooka1
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    Where I may see that Weiss is saying this?
    One of the forum members stated Weiss told him this in a communication. Do you remember?

    I don't know if Weiss is in the SRS. I doubt it.

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  • flerc
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    Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
    Scoliosis Research Society official position on PT, inter alia, accessed on 19 July, 2015. (emphasis added)

    http://www.srs.org/patient_and_famil..._scoliosis.htm
    Where I may see that Weiss is saying this?

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  • Pooka1
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    Originally posted by flerc View Post
    If you wanted to convince people
    I am beyond caring about autonomous adults who live in demon-haunted worlds.

    I care about their kids born into those imaginary worlds.

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