What's your take on steel rods versus titanium, and how does it feel in the winter with the cold? I'm still presurgery.
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Steel or Titanium... Cold??
Sandy
Thoracic curve was 55 degrees, now 30
Lumbar curve was 68 degrees, now 26
Rib rotation was 17 degrees, now 0
Degenerated discs and sacral arthritic spurs, plus significant spondylosis
Fused 8/13/09 at age 43 from T-9 to pelvis with iliac screws anchoring hardware to the pelvis, plus osteomies by Drs. Anthony Moreno and Geoff Cronen, Tampa, FLTags: None
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I think it's just surgeon preference. Both have pros and cons as I understand it.
Also, "titanium" goes better with "ed" than does "steel."Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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I have 14 titanium screws and 2 rods. This last winter was my first experience with the hardware in the cold. It may have been my imagination but it seemed that I was cold allllll winter and once I would get cold it took forever to warm up. Shivering was rather painful so I did everything I could to not get extremely cold. Like I said, it could have been my imagination but that was my experience.
Good luck!Becky, 46 years old
Diagnosed at 13 with mild scoliosis
Ignored until 448/07
Left thoracic 49* T5-T11
Right thorocolumbar 60* T11-L4
Surgery Monday, June 9, 2008 Oklahoma Spine Hospital
Fused T-10 to L-5
14 titanium pedicle screws
Corrected to approx. 10* YEA!!!
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I have steel screws and rods and I was freezing as well this past winter, especially if I got into the car with leather seats before the car was warmed up. I would then not only be cold, but in pain as well for the rest of the day. Cloth seats are not as cold, so didn't bother me too much. I want to move South or spend my winters in the Caribbean or Hawaii.
SallyDiagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
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I have titanium and I too, have felt very cold this current Winter. I put it down to being in recovery, and perhaps all my energy is still going into healing inside.Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
Osteotomies and Laminectomies
Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free
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steel or titanium
dear johnson bunch
i have not yet decided on surgery...but my surgeon said he thinks steel is stronger...i said i wanted titanium cause i heard it caused fewer problems (?) ...he said he didnt agree but would do whatever i wanted in terms of material for rods...he's great & IF i have surgery, it will be with him (dr lonner, nyc)
talk of being cold scares me off!...i have always been very cold alllllll winter & half of spring..specially cause in the northeast lately we go from winter to summer without spring, & this summer all we mostly have is chilly rain!!
best to you
jess
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I was always cold in the winter, but this past winter, which was my first fused, I could not tolerate cold at all. Mostly because if I was cold, I shivered, and if I shivered, it HURT! BTW, my hardware is stainless steel.__________________________________________
Debbe - 50 yrs old
Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
Told by Dr. my curve would never progress
Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees
Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees
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Originally posted by loves to skate View PostI have steel screws and rods and I was freezing as well this past winter, especially if I got into the car with leather seats before the car was warmed up. I would then not only be cold, but in pain as well for the rest of the day. Cloth seats are not as cold, so didn't bother me too much. I want to move South or spend my winters in the Caribbean or Hawaii.
Sally
Mary LouMom to Jamie age 21-diagnosed at age 12-spinal fusion 12/7/2004-fused from T3-L2; and Tracy age 19, mild Scoliosis-diagnosed at age 18.
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Originally posted by Snoopy View PostIf you go to the Caribbean or Hawaii you have to take all of us along!
Mary Lou__________________________________________
Debbe - 50 yrs old
Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
Told by Dr. my curve would never progress
Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees
Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees
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Originally posted by loves to skate View PostI have steel screws and rods and I was freezing as well this past winter, especially if I got into the car with leather seats before the car was warmed up. I would then not only be cold, but in pain as well for the rest of the day. Cloth seats are not as cold, so didn't bother me too much. I want to move South or spend my winters in the Caribbean or Hawaii.
Sally
that's why I love my remote car starter and seat warmers!!Even before surgery, I always said if my butt is warm, all of me is warm.
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Debbe - 50 yrs old
Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
Told by Dr. my curve would never progress
Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees
Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees
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Originally posted by PNUTTRO View PostYou're hardware stays at the same temperature as your core body temperature. If you are a person who is generally warm, then it won't be a problem.
I think folks are extrapolating to their (unrelated) experience of touching metal and it feeling cold.
I think even if the rods were very close to the skin, it is impossible for them to reach a lower temp than that of the body.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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I live in Florida currently, so cold winters now is not an issue. But we have a lake house in NE Tennessee that we want to relocate to to escape these 100 degree muggy summers we're having now. The thought of being in a turtle brace in this heat makes me sweat! It's not as cold in Tennessee as in the great white north some of you guys are in, and I do have heaters in my leather seats (never use them in Florida).
My husband thinks titanium would be less of a cold conductor than stainless steel, but my surgeon also says the steel is stronger and that the hardware does not make you cold. It makes sense that it would remain the same temperature as your internal body temp since it's inside, but then again it's not that far under the skin or covered with any fat. My cousin in Maine complains about a steel plate in his leg freezing in winters, so I thought I'd ask from you guys that have experienced it.Sandy
Thoracic curve was 55 degrees, now 30
Lumbar curve was 68 degrees, now 26
Rib rotation was 17 degrees, now 0
Degenerated discs and sacral arthritic spurs, plus significant spondylosis
Fused 8/13/09 at age 43 from T-9 to pelvis with iliac screws anchoring hardware to the pelvis, plus osteomies by Drs. Anthony Moreno and Geoff Cronen, Tampa, FL
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Originally posted by johnsonbunch View PostMy cousin in Maine complains about a steel plate in his leg freezing in winters, so I thought I'd ask from you guys that have experienced it.
Isn't the real explanation likely to be his brain incorrectly interpreting the feelings in his leg as cold sensation? Brain science is in its infancy but we do know these types of things occur.
It is not possible for the plate to be other than body temperature. If anyone has any evidence showing this is not true then I'd like to see it.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Not actual freezing, but the sensation. And I'm sure much of what we feel is psychological. But never having experienced it myself, I had to ask.Sandy
Thoracic curve was 55 degrees, now 30
Lumbar curve was 68 degrees, now 26
Rib rotation was 17 degrees, now 0
Degenerated discs and sacral arthritic spurs, plus significant spondylosis
Fused 8/13/09 at age 43 from T-9 to pelvis with iliac screws anchoring hardware to the pelvis, plus osteomies by Drs. Anthony Moreno and Geoff Cronen, Tampa, FL
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