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  • Susan,

    Maybe you are doing too much? Dr. Lenke doesn't generally let patients do PT until 6 months postop at the earliest. Could PT be aggravating your knee and/or butt? Also, regarding the hernia, if it can wait (medically) until a year postop, I think that would be better. You don't want to do anything invasive if you can help it because of the elevated risk of infection. Maybe lay off the doctors appointments and PT and just give yourself time to heal?

    Also, have you recently decreased pain meds? That in itself can cause depression, especially if you were taking anything with codeine and/or Valium. I even felt slightly down when I discontinued Flexeril (muscle relaxant).

    The butt pain: definitely could be the screw. I hate to tell you this, but I still have that pain at 16 months. I didn't have it preop, either. That baby is most likely coming out next spring!

    The weight gain: I hear you, sister! I gained weight post-op and haven't lost it yet. But I don't think it's time for you to worry about that. Focus on healing, resting, walking, and eating healthy. The rest will come.

    It is very normal to be down at this stage. Give yourself a break. Try to find something besides your back that can distract you. I read The Hunger Games and Fifty Shades of Gray. Easy, brainless, but kept my attention. This too shall pass, and you will feel better! Then you can plan our scoliosis wine/tea group. :-)

    Evelyn

    P.S. My son (age 10) had ACL repair this year, too.
    age 48
    80* thoracolumbar; 40* thoracic
    Reduced to ~16* thoracolumbar; ~0* thoracic
    Surgery 3/14/12 with Dr. Lenke in St. Louis, T4 to S1 with pelvic fixation
    Broken rods 12/1/19; scheduled for revision fusion L1-L3-4 with Dr. Lenke 2/4/2020
    Not "confused" anymore, but don't know how to change my username.

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    • Originally posted by Confusedmom View Post
      Susan,

      Maybe you are doing too much? Dr. Lenke doesn't generally let patients do PT until 6 months postop at the earliest. Could PT be aggravating your knee and/or butt? Also, regarding the hernia, if it can wait (medically) until a year postop, I think that would be better. You don't want to do anything invasive if you can help it because of the elevated risk of infection. Maybe lay off the doctors appointments and PT and just give yourself time to heal?

      Also, have you recently decreased pain meds? That in itself can cause depression, especially if you were taking anything with codeine and/or Valium. I even felt slightly down when I discontinued Flexeril (muscle relaxant).

      The butt pain: definitely could be the screw. I hate to tell you this, but I still have that pain at 16 months. I didn't have it preop, either. That baby is most likely coming out next spring!

      The weight gain: I hear you, sister! I gained weight post-op and haven't lost it yet. But I don't think it's time for you to worry about that. Focus on healing, resting, walking, and eating healthy. The rest will come.

      It is very normal to be down at this stage. Give yourself a break. Try to find something besides your back that can distract you. I read The Hunger Games and Fifty Shades of Gray. Easy, brainless, but kept my attention. This too shall pass, and you will feel better! Then you can plan our scoliosis wine/tea group. :-)

      Evelyn

      P.S. My son (age 10) had ACL repair this year, too.
      Thanks Evelyn, the PT that I am doing is very mild and I am working with a PT with experience with patients with spinal fusion. I am mostly working on neck exercises. I will also do some gentle swimming.

      I also think that my scar should be on my front and I would be more impressed with the enormity of my surgery. When I look in the mirror at my back, I am frequently amazed. When I look at my X-ray, I am amazed and cannot imagine that all of that hardware is inside of me!

      The hernia....that's what I assume it is, I would like to go to a surgeon and have an assessment. I do not want to have it repaired unless there is a surgeon's concern about the intestines getting stuck.

      I am at 4 months and stopped narcotics: Dilaudid at 2.5 months. I am doing a little bit better now, thanks to everyone's support. I am not a patient person and I always feel that I can somehow fix the problem. Right now, I am worried about fusion and my ugly hernia....and my headaches. My back hurts very little, mostly tightness on my butt and some on my back. My R leg weakness has improved some and the L leg butt pain has greatly improved with a lift.

      Again, thanks for your and so many others support.

      Pinot Gris, Evelyn? Susan
      Last edited by susancook; 07-24-2013, 03:24 AM.
      Adult Onset Degen Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Sev disc degen T & L stenosis

      2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 2 surgeries
      2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal SCI T4,5 sec to PJK
      2015: Rev Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
      2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone
      2018: Removal L4,5 screw
      2021: Removal T1 screw & rod

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      • Incisional hernia

        I saw a general surgeon about my hernia today and I have a complete separation of the rectus muscle that was cut with my ALIF.....about 8" plus he said. Crap. We talked extensively and he said that with such a large hernia that he cannot repair it with a laparoscope and he will use mesh with the repair.

        He wants me to lose some weight before surgery as weight loss increases the chances of a successful surgery. I will probably have it done in November. I look like I am pregnant with my menopausal baby.

        Susan
        Adult Onset Degen Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Sev disc degen T & L stenosis

        2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 2 surgeries
        2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal SCI T4,5 sec to PJK
        2015: Rev Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
        2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone
        2018: Removal L4,5 screw
        2021: Removal T1 screw & rod

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        • Originally posted by susancook View Post
          I saw a general surgeon about my hernia today and I have a complete separation of the rectus muscle that was cut with my ALIF.....about 8" plus he said. Crap. We talked extensively and he said that with such a large hernia that he cannot repair it with a laparoscope and he will use mesh with the repair.

          He wants me to lose some weight before surgery as weight loss increases the chances of a successful surgery. I will probably have it done in November. I look like I am pregnant with my menopausal baby.

          Susan

          You and my husband!!! You both need to be on the mend with these hernias! He is sick of looking like a pregnant male! I feel so bad for you Susan. You have been through so much. Please be kind to yourself especially exercising (PT) with the hernia.

          Todd (my husband) goes in tomorrow for some results on blood work. Things did not look good. We are very nervous as he has had cancer years ago but we are staying positive as he has always defied the odds! But all prayers are welcome. Just hoping it's a simple medication needing to add to his daily cocktails!

          I will keep you in my prayers. Walking can be a successful way to lose weight! You can do it. Try cutting back one high calorie favorite snack one at a time and before you know it, you won't be missing them. If you need motivation, I will keep on you like a barking dog. (And no, I still have not made my appt. The peps in my life have taken priority!...but I will!)

          Hugs to you girl! Hang tough!
          *Jen
          Fusion surgery with Dr. Chang May 7, 2013
          Pre-T:50 L:48
          Post-T:20 L:0
          Degenerative disk disease through spine and neck with bulging disks as well. Spinal cord deformity in the area of C5-6.
          {On the road to a lifetime of forever with a back not holding me down!! Vacations, playtime with the kids, adult excursions! Life is moving forward not holding me back }

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          • So sorry to hear that, Susan. That's quite a hernia! Take it one day at a time-- and Back2life had some good solid advice on starting slowly with losing weight. I've had a lot of luck with Weight Watchers also, and have found the accountability there helps. Just remember to eat healthily no matter what.

            I'm sorry to hear about your husband also, B2l... I'll be praying for all of you.
            71 and plugging along... but having some problems
            2007 52° w/ severe lumbar stenosis & L2L3 lateral listhesis (side shift)
            5/4/07 posterior fusion T2-L4 w/ laminectomies and osteotomies @L2L3, L3L4
            Dr. Kim Hammerberg, Rush Univ. Medical Center in Chicago

            Corrected to 15°
            CMT (type 2) DX in 2014, progressing
            10/2018 x-rays - spondylolisthesis at L4/L5 - Dr. DeWald is monitoring

            Click to view my pics: pics of scoli x-rays digital x-rays, and pics of me

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            • The news you didn't need, Susan.

              Cut back a *little* on all meals especially dinner. Start to enjoy that slightly "empty" feeling, slight hunger even, that will happen in a few days. Your tummy will be slightly flatter. You'll know you're losing weight. That plus walking and changing snacks from unhealthy to healthy, if applicable, should see a small weight loss between now and November. You can do this, because you want a successful outcome.
              Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
              Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
              T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
              Osteotomies and Laminectomies
              Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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              • Originally posted by back2life View Post
                You and my husband!!! You both need to be on the mend with these hernias! He is sick of looking like a pregnant male! I feel so bad for you Susan. You have been through so much. Please be kind to yourself especially exercising (PT) with the hernia.

                Todd (my husband) goes in tomorrow for some results on blood work. Things did not look good. We are very nervous as he has had cancer years ago but we are staying positive as he has always defied the odds! But all prayers are welcome. Just hoping it's a simple medication needing to add to his daily cocktails!

                I will keep you in my prayers. Walking can be a successful way to lose weight! You can do it. Try cutting back one high calorie favorite snack one at a time and before you know it, you won't be missing them. If you need motivation, I will keep on you like a barking dog. (And no, I still have not made my appt. The peps in my life have taken priority!...but I will!)

                Hugs to you girl! Hang tough!
                Tell your husband that I will be sending positive thoughts his way. While I am somewhat overweight, having a bulging lower belly really looks like I am out of control.....or having a menopausal baby! Walking is sometimes difficult as I get burning in my lower abdomen. I will keep trying to exercise, maybe try swimming.

                I have decoded to eat every 3 hours, small meals of protein and veggie. I know that I need good nutrition for my spine to fuse, so I do not want to interfere with that.

                I will send you PMs about my weight changes, so I would love to have you as a coach.

                Take care of yourself! You may be needed to help your husband after his hernia surgery.
                Susan
                Last edited by susancook; 08-09-2013, 01:11 AM.
                Adult Onset Degen Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Sev disc degen T & L stenosis

                2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 2 surgeries
                2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal SCI T4,5 sec to PJK
                2015: Rev Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
                2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone
                2018: Removal L4,5 screw
                2021: Removal T1 screw & rod

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                • Originally posted by Susie*Bee View Post
                  So sorry to hear that, Susan. That's quite a hernia! Take it one day at a time-- and Back2life had some good solid advice on starting slowly with losing weight. I've had a lot of luck with Weight Watchers also, and have found the accountability there helps. Just remember to eat healthily no matter what.

                  I'm sorry to hear about your husband also, B2l... I'll be praying for all of you.
                  Thanks for your support! I am glad that I had my hernia validated by the surgeon. It is pretty obvious really. I sent an email to Dr. Hu's office about my symptoms and got an email back that "it probably is not a hernia as they rarely happen. It is just a separation of the muscle that will heal." Right! Even my husband who is a nuclear engineer could see that it was a hernia!

                  I will take it slow and eat protein and veggies and take my Centrum Silver vitamins.
                  Susan
                  Adult Onset Degen Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Sev disc degen T & L stenosis

                  2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 2 surgeries
                  2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal SCI T4,5 sec to PJK
                  2015: Rev Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
                  2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone
                  2018: Removal L4,5 screw
                  2021: Removal T1 screw & rod

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                  • So sorry to hear about your problems

                    Prayers your way

                    Melissa
                    Melissa

                    Fused from C2 - sacrum 7/2011

                    April 21, 2020- another broken rod surgery

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                    • Originally posted by back2life View Post
                      You and my husband!!! You both need to be on the mend with these hernias! He is sick of looking like a pregnant male! I feel so bad for you Susan. You have been through so much. Please be kind to yourself especially exercising (PT) with the hernia.

                      Todd (my husband) goes in tomorrow for some results on blood work. Things did not look good. We are very nervous as he has had cancer years ago but we are staying positive as he has always defied the odds! But all prayers are welcome. Just hoping it's a simple medication needing to add to his daily cocktails!

                      I will keep you in my prayers. Walking can be a successful way to lose weight! You can do it. Try cutting back one high calorie favorite snack one at a time and before you know it, you won't be missing them. If you need motivation, I will keep on you like a barking dog. (And no, I still have not made my appt. The peps in my life have taken priority!...but I will!)

                      Hugs to you girl! Hang tough!

                      Prayers going your way and for Todd as well

                      Melissa
                      Melissa

                      Fused from C2 - sacrum 7/2011

                      April 21, 2020- another broken rod surgery

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                      • Hi Susan,

                        The good news is that your general surgeon confirmed the hernia diagnosis and he will take care of it. I feel for you and it is so unfair to have this hernia several months out, but it could have been worse if nobody knew what's going on. I am just trying to cheer you up...
                        I am stronger than scoliosis, and won't let it rule my life!
                        45 years old - diagnosed at age 7
                        A/P surgery on March 5/7, 2013 - UCSF

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                        • Thanks Melissa and Irina for your kind words. It was a relief today to have a plan and to see an end to this process. I remember the first time that I met Dr. Hu. I was worried that she would say that " there is nothing that I can do for you, Susan". Instead, she told me that she recommends surgery (i thought that surgeons do not recommend surgery, but just offer choices, surprised me!) and that if i did not have surgery that i would probably continue to deteriorate. Same with today....knowing that there is nothing that can be done must be a very frustrating situation.

                          I really liked the hernia surgeon, hernia repair is his specialty. And he had personality!

                          Onward to getting ready for my next adventure! Hernia surgery should be a piece of cake compared to 2 day spinal surgery. Maybe he can do a small tummy tuck at the same time....
                          Susan and her menopausal baby
                          Adult Onset Degen Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Sev disc degen T & L stenosis

                          2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 2 surgeries
                          2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal SCI T4,5 sec to PJK
                          2015: Rev Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
                          2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone
                          2018: Removal L4,5 screw
                          2021: Removal T1 screw & rod

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                          • Wouldn't it be good if we could have a raft of things fixed in the one go? Where I live, Queensland, it's the skin cancer capital of the world. I have a mole near my spine, just near where Dr. Askin cut and I half expected him to nick it off while he was at it but he didn't. A friend of mine had a breast reduction and got her friend, a hand surgeon, to come in after the breast reduction, and fix a couple of ganglions she had on her hands. Seems sensible to me.
                            Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
                            Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
                            T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
                            Osteotomies and Laminectomies
                            Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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                            • Originally posted by JenniferG View Post
                              Wouldn't it be good if we could have a raft of things fixed in the one go? Where I live, Queensland, it's the skin cancer capital of the world. I have a mole near my spine, just near where Dr. Askin cut and I half expected him to nick it off while he was at it but he didn't. A friend of mine had a breast reduction and got her friend, a hand surgeon, to come in after the breast reduction, and fix a couple of ganglions she had on her hands. Seems sensible to me.

                              I am so glad that I saw Dr Bederman before my hip surgery and not afterwards. Hopefully, this will eliminate one surgery for me

                              Melissa
                              Melissa

                              Fused from C2 - sacrum 7/2011

                              April 21, 2020- another broken rod surgery

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                              • Originally posted by mabeckoff View Post
                                I am so glad that I saw Dr Bederman before my hip surgery and not afterwards. Hopefully, this will eliminate one surgery for me

                                Melissa
                                Absolutely. Some things do work out for the best! Even if it doesn't necessarily seem that way at the time. I'm just glad Dr. Bederman is doing his best for you because it's probably unusual to have two different surgeries under the one anaesthetic. I think this is a "special" for you Melissa. I hope that both the hip surgery and this broken rod surgery sees you in a great deal less pain. Forever. (You've already had more than your fair share.)

                                Hangin' in there with you!
                                Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
                                Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
                                T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
                                Osteotomies and Laminectomies
                                Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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