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Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Originally posted by flerc View PostOhh! Soryy!!!
I was wrong, they was not GlabalAdvances who said that, they was the SEAS (Scientific Exercises Approach to Scoliosis) group. I perfectly understand why they seems to be so worried with what this study says..
There is nothing magical about this or any yoga pose. People have been trying to use yoga with scoliosis for decades. It makes NO sense that these guys were the first to find a magic yoga pose that works for life. If that existed we would know it by now.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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If I would have a Company developing scoliosis excercises that never get very much important reductions, I would be worry about the future of that Company after reading this study. Of course is an ethic issue to try to debunk it for that reason or not.
The entire abstract, shows they are not saying that x-rays values are wrong, they simply shows the lack of understanding about scoliosis, inconsistences and so on. The only way of course to debunk this study is proving that x-rays value are wrong.
The point is ever the same if those values are wrong it's a fraude and if they are right, the millenary yoga pose used as probably never was used before in scoliotic people can reduce in a very much significant way C curves. There's not any other point, is so simply like that.
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The SEAS people, unlike the great run of people in the scoliosis PT field, are medical doctors. They are the good guys. They want a real answer and aren't stealing people's money.
Because they are medical doctors who also do research, they are in a position to criticize PT studies on first principles. You are confusing their legitimate scientific criticism of the yoga study with the crazy idea that they are mad that someone else will solve scoliosis through exercise and they will somehow lose money.Last edited by Pooka1; 07-10-2015, 05:33 AM.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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By now I think we've wasted too much time and words about this, it's clearly crap and I'm so so angry and disappointed with this, I hope the charlatans involved in this study rot in hell, I really do, giving people false hopes should be punished by law.
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Originally posted by Alistair View PostBy now I think we've wasted too much time and words about this, it's clearly crap and I'm so so angry and disappointed with this, I hope the charlatans involved in this study rot in hell, I really do, giving people false hopes should be punished by law.
If it turns out they are reporting reductions in compensatory curves, the paper should be withdrawn FULL STOP.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Originally posted by Alistair View PostBy now I think we've wasted too much time and words about this, it's clearly crap and I'm so so angry and disappointed with this, I hope the charlatans involved in this study rot in hell, I really do, giving people false hopes should be punished by law.
If you would be right, not only this people should be punished. It would be more unacceptable what others did.
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Originally posted by Pooka1 View PostThe SEAS people, unlike the great run of people in the scoliosis PT field, are medical doctors. They are the good guys. They want a real answer and aren't stealing people's money.
Because they are medical doctors who also do research, they are in a position to criticize PT studies on first principles. You are confusing their legitimate scientific criticism of the yoga study with the crazy idea that they are mad that someone else will solve scoliosis through exercise and they will somehow lose money.
Surely they are more exposed and controlled and must be careful in what they do and they show.
Of course I cannot look inside the brains and souls of these people, I only can infer about what I read. Sure they are not stupids and they may deduce that if x-rays values (of course about main curve) are right, people around the world will be interested in doing the Yoga Side Plank instead of SEAS excercises. Do you not believe the same? If you would have a big C curve and you would be sure that a 120º curve was reduced to 65º, what kind of excercise would you prefer to do?
If they are getting money (or they do it free?) with SEAS just only because they want to help people, they SHOULD WANT to know about the validity of those values. What the hell may matter if the study shows a lack of scoliosis understanding?
They are not stupid, so they know that the only one important issue is to know if those values are right or not! They had the chance to ask that in a direct and distrustful way. That would have been what I would have done because I want to know the true! This would have been a legitimate scientific criticism and not what they did!
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Originally posted by Pooka1 View PostI agree. With the amount of yoga types working on this issue, it might be safe to assume yoga isn't a solution.
Originally posted by Pooka1 View PostIf it turns out they are reporting reductions in compensatory curves, the paper should be withdrawn FULL STOP.
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Originally posted by flerc View PostIf you would have a big C curve and you would be sure that a 120º curve was reduced to 65º, what kind of excercise would you prefer to do?Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Originally posted by flerc View PostAnd of course it would have been a fraud, proving that not all are good guys among medical doctors.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Originally posted by Pooka1 View PostNo exercise. If I had a large C curve I would assume it was hysterical scoliosis and ask a surgeon to put me under for a little while and wake up with straight back like that one patient Linda mentioned.
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There were a fair number of people having their kids doing PT. I hope we hear from them. Some are certainly done growing. It would be helpful if they reported back on the results of the PT.Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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Originally posted by flerc View PostDid she mentioned a super giant hysterical adult curve??Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis
No island of sanity.
Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
Answer: Medicine
"We are all African."
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