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  • Rita...

    So as to not hijack Jackie's thread, I moved your post to a new thread. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.

    --Linda
    Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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    Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
    Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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    • Originally posted by jackieg412 View Post
      I get out of the brace today. Yes!!!! In a sling and go to outpatient therapy today.
      Pain may get worse when we start moving the shoulder but the therapy order is very restrictive for the next 6 weeks. Just moving but no weight or muscle strengthening yet.
      Actually the order is written out for 12 months of progression.
      12 months of PT.....that is quite an order.

      I remember how slow my shoulder therapy was in the beginning.....they used a cyro cold machine which actually felt pretty good....I didn't get into any weights for some time, and when it happened it was done with 1# weights. It was all about moving things. Quite similar to my scoliosis surgery recovery....a very slow process.

      They are forecasting up to 10 feet of snow up at Donner Pass, California over the next few days....If you come out here for your PT, you will the cyro therapy for free, and if you fall in powder, it doesn't cause much damage. (smiley face)

      Dr Cotrel had scoliosis patients in Berck, France doing their therapy after scoliosis surgery on the beach....He mentioned this in his book, "The Sands of Berck".

      Anyone walk in deep sand on a beach? It's not easy with scoliosis.

      https://www.amazon.com/Sands-Berck-U.../dp/B003Y5BQ7O

      Ed
      49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
      Pre surgery curves T70,L70
      ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
      Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

      Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

      My x-rays
      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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      • Just as suspected, the pain was worse with beginning of PT. We did just a little movement and massage. A long way to go. We are very familiar with scoliosis surgery having a long recovery but this scapula surgery recovery seems to be up there also.
        The sling bothers my neck A lot.
        I would guess the recovery will be slow. But it has been a 10 year journey to get to this point. A long time.
        T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
        C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
        T2--T10 fusion 2/11
        C 4-5 fusion 11/14
        Right scapulectomy 6/15
        Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
        To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
        Broken neck 9/28/2018
        Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
        Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
        Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
        Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
        Osteotomy

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        • We are running specials on Cyro therapy out here.....(It's free) It's like Antartica with white out conditions....about 10 feet of snow has fallen so far in the last few days....Filling up the reservoirs in California.

          Jackie, try some foam under the neck sling. You can take a 2 inch foam topper and cut off a chunk with a knife.

          I hope things have gotten a little easier by now...

          Ed
          49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
          Pre surgery curves T70,L70
          ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
          Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

          Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
          http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

          My x-rays
          http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

          http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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          • So far in Illinois we haven't n had snow but I think that is about to change. I am in a smaller sling now with passive movement from PT for next 6 weeks. Christmas wore me out. I have 7 grandchildren and some young. They had fun.
            This to will pass. So far the pain isn't any where close to the broken neck. It isn't even on the same page.
            I just hope this is the end though.
            The surgeon wrote A PT order that spans 12 months. This to will pass.
            I should get a X-Ray copy at the end of January. I've seen it on a computer. It looks like a strip of snaps or buttons. I think there are five. I will find out soon.
            T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
            C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
            T2--T10 fusion 2/11
            C 4-5 fusion 11/14
            Right scapulectomy 6/15
            Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
            To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
            Broken neck 9/28/2018
            Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
            Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
            Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
            Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
            Osteotomy

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            • Originally posted by jackieg412 View Post
              So far the pain isn't any where close to the broken neck. It isn't even on the same page.
              I can imagine.... Was the broken neck your worst pain?... or was it the Arachnoiditis attacks? Your broken neck x-ray was a doozie....It hurt just to look at the x-ray.

              It seems like your pain pump is doing a good job in the thoracic....What do you think? It's probably helping with the scapula fusion.

              My neighbor (She is 86 now) went through a whole host of heart and cardio surgeries over a few years......she has more scars than many of us combined....About 6 cardio revision surgeries and she lost her leg. We don't hear about these things since this is a scoliosis forum but sometimes it takes a few tries to get things right and it doesn't have to be spine related. Our bodies are complicated, there is no doubt about that. BTW, She is doing great....

              Christmas day for me was very short....I had to eat and run due to the snow storms as I don't have a 4 wheel drive car right now and crashing is out of the question.

              I didn't get to overeat.....believe me, I wanted to. This saved me the next day. The yams were to die for. If you leave them in the oven about 30-45 seconds longer to slightly burn the marshmallows, they come out perfect. Timing is everything with marshmallows. (smiley face)

              My neck problems have healed. I am convinced it was a trap strain at the skull. It took 4 months. Chiro actually agitated it and was very painful the day after each adjustment which is not the norm.

              Ed
              49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
              Pre surgery curves T70,L70
              ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
              Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

              Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

              My x-rays
              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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              • Yes Ed we are so complicated. Like the bone song from children, everything is connected to the next bone.
                Without a doubt, the broken neck was way worse than the scapula fusion. In fact the scapula pain doesn't even make it in the same ball park. But I don know how the true rehab will go.
                I did over do the holiday, and had to rest a lot the next few days. II get a lot of pain in the lower neck or upper shoulder area. I can only relax it by resting back or using heat..
                Some people really go through a lot. And some children are really remarkable. They are so amazing. Children just want to play.
                I do think the pump is helping but it does not help the neck.
                The scapula fusion is a real rare surgery. Even in that rehab hospital , the therapists would come in the room just to ask me about it. If they asked,I would answer what I could.
                My PT now, said I have been a PT for 20 years and have never seen this. So they will need a lot of direction from the surgeon.
                l
                T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
                C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
                T2--T10 fusion 2/11
                C 4-5 fusion 11/14
                Right scapulectomy 6/15
                Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
                To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
                Broken neck 9/28/2018
                Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
                Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
                Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
                Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
                Osteotomy

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                • I am 10 weeks post op from scapula fusion. It is good to be out of the big, heavy brace. I am moving more and working on using my right hand more.
                  I see the neurosurgeon for the 1 year spine surgery on Monday and on Friday I see the surgeon for the scapula surgery. I think everything is going well with this surgery. It is hard to know because of being so restricted.
                  I hope your flu is gone Ed. That is not fun.
                  Hop everyone remains well
                  T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
                  C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
                  T2--T10 fusion 2/11
                  C 4-5 fusion 11/14
                  Right scapulectomy 6/15
                  Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
                  To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
                  Broken neck 9/28/2018
                  Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
                  Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
                  Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
                  Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
                  Osteotomy

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                  • Thx Jackie, Being sick is no fun....but I can't imagine doing a scoliosis or spine recovery with all that is happening now...You know how scary it is coughing after our surgeries, and must have felt just lovely with your scapula fusion....

                    That was quite a set of serious procedures you did last year (Nov 2020)....to lift your chin off your chest and get your head up again is just amazing.....Osteoporosis and kyphosis in adults is not a good combination. What was that surgeons name again? He gets huge bonus points for pulling all of that off.

                    What is your pain report on that whole procedure? The broken neck, broken neck rods, replacement neck rods, T8 Ponte, T1 PSO, T5 debridement for infection, and the 4 rods in your thoracic....(get your x-ray copies)

                    And the hand pain? and the elbow (ulnar nerve)? Any improvements?

                    I hope it isn't too hard since we do get used to pain, and we do forget.... There are times that I really have to think hard on what it was like many years ago. It's been 20 years this month that my sciatica hit...but then sciatica is hard to forget. So bad it drove me into some serious scoliosis procedures. My surgeon and surgeons also get huge bonus points....

                    Ed
                    49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                    My x-rays
                    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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                    • I'm glad you are up and going again. I hate being sick. This is a tough time for everyone. I'm glad we have this forum. It helps to connect.
                      Yes that was a very risky surgery last year. My neurosurgeon ( who I see on Monday) is Dr. Ricardo Fontes from Rush in Chicago. I actually saw a commercial on TV here in Chicago ,with him in it. It was discussing neurosurgery. He is a double trained excellent surgeon. Also, the most gentle, kind ,easy to talk to surgeon that I have ever been in contact with. I am actually looking forward to showing him my new in place shoulder. He was the one that helped make the decision for this surgery.
                      I should have xrays and will attempt to post them.

                      The pain level, the best way I can describe it , the broken neck and blood clots in the epidural of the spinal cord was like the final game of the world series. The scapula fusion was T- ball. I don't know if the nerves back there are just not reporting? Soon we will begin moving it more and the pain may change.
                      All of these last procedures have been recovered on Tylenol and gabapenten. So it can be done. There are a few rough days but it gets better quick.

                      Taking deep breaths was absolutely necessary after this scapula fusion. I must have done okay because I had no problems. I did have some skin issues because of the atrophied muscles and the brace. But it is better now.
                      I see the surgeon for the scapula next Friday. I think he will increase the movement soon.
                      I will report on both of the visits next week.
                      T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
                      C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
                      T2--T10 fusion 2/11
                      C 4-5 fusion 11/14
                      Right scapulectomy 6/15
                      Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
                      To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
                      Broken neck 9/28/2018
                      Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
                      Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
                      Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
                      Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
                      Osteotomy

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                      • Drug Induced Osteoporosis

                        Originally posted by jackieg412 View Post
                        All of these last procedures have been recovered on Tylenol and gabapenten.
                        I have seen some negative opioid papers on bone healing lately.....We have to take opioids during our recoveries, but there are good reasons to consider quitting. I have a boatload of papers saved on this subject matter if anyone wants to see more of them....
                        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32249381/

                        Drug Induced Osteoporosis
                        https://www.uspharmacist.com/article...d-osteoporosis

                        RIP Meatloaf.....He sure had his share of spine troubles.....13 screws, plates, implant migration, 4 revisions, major pain.
                        I saw him during the 1978 original Bat out of Hell tour. It was sold out so we banged on the back door and a security guard let us in and we stood at the base of the stage. This kind of stuff only happens in the movies....(smiley face) He probably weighed 350#.

                        Let us know.....

                        Ed
                        49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                        Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                        ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                        Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                        Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                        My x-rays
                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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                        • Hi there

                          Who are you seeing? I’m interested in someone to assist me with a revision surgery. Thanks so much.
                          Rita Thompson
                          Age 46
                          Milwaukee Brace wearer for 3 years in childhood
                          Surgery Mar 1st - 95 degree thoracic curve
                          Surgery by Dr. Lenke, St. Louis, MO
                          Post-surgery curve 25-30 degree

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                          • tried to attach new xray but i could not get it
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by jackieg412; 01-27-2022, 03:37 PM.
                            T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
                            C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
                            T2--T10 fusion 2/11
                            C 4-5 fusion 11/14
                            Right scapulectomy 6/15
                            Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
                            To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
                            Broken neck 9/28/2018
                            Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
                            Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
                            Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
                            Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
                            Osteotomy

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                            • this is my second try to attach new x-rays from 1/24/2022
                              this is the new one .. the first one was the old from before the accident. If you look by the right shoulder you will see the strip used for the thoracic scapula fusion
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by jackieg412; 01-27-2022, 03:50 PM.
                              T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
                              C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
                              T2--T10 fusion 2/11
                              C 4-5 fusion 11/14
                              Right scapulectomy 6/15
                              Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
                              To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16
                              Broken neck 9/28/2018
                              Emergency surgery posterior fusion C4- T3
                              Repeated 11/2018 because rods pulled apart added T2 fusion
                              Removal of partial right thoracic hardware 1/2020
                              Removal and replacement of C4-T10 hardware with C7 and T 1
                              Osteotomy

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                              • Jackie, what can I say? Your x-ray is not your average full fusion scoliosis x-ray....

                                After knowing you all these years and knowing what you have gone through, I guess I have to say that this is one of the most painful x-rays on the forum (if you could categorize it that way). It took you a lot of effort to get to this stage. 13 years of many different types of surgeries and recoveries. There is also no way to see the arachnoiditis....or the scar tissue. No way to see the pain...No way to feel the pain, unless you have been there. I understand....and I always ask about your pain levels because sometimes it can be completely debilitating. You have been through a lot...I hope the pain passes quickly...

                                I righted it, its below


                                Ed
                                Attached Files
                                Last edited by titaniumed; 01-28-2022, 01:12 AM.
                                49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                                Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                                ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                                Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                                Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                                http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                                My x-rays
                                http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                                http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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