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    Dancing

    As I struggle with going forward with the surgery, I got to thinking of how much I love to dance. Nowadays I can only dance while driving. After Dr Gupta delayed my surgery + the Coronvirus, I am looking at around 2 years to have surgery. I donít want to get it before a vaccine comes out. I would also be around 66 years old. Then found out my only 2 friends canít help me once in-home health aides leave wonít be available. Since this surgery is a crap shoot & you wonít know what your life will be like after surgery you need some kind of support system to last 1-2 years. Needless to say Iím pretty bummed about the whole thing. I was just listening to some songs now called classic rock (Jackson Brown, Allman Brothers) & got to thinking, of after my recovery (fused T4-pelvic), if I could dance again & go to concerts (Iím sure thereíll still be some old farts left) that would be the deal breaker for me to do the surgery). Need folks experience & opinions. Thanks

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    Moderna 3rd phase trials start in July with 30,000 people. There is a huge push going on.

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/mo...ccine-by-july/

    I was forced to go see Rod Stewart years ago...average age was probably 65, and the ambulances were lined up for that show. Every time Rod would shake his hips (to the bass drum) a few would faint.

    I shake my hips and nothing happens. Maybe it was the bass drum. Ha ha

    I've been horseback riding and skiing, but not dancing or any concerts. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to dance as long as things go ok with the surgeries.

    There is a possible 2nd COVID wave coming that everyone is jumpy about. Or at least in the markets....Recovery rates have risen, but also new cases have risen. This is not good.

    Here is a video of me skiing after my surgeries. I am in the red jacket. This was Jan 2011
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tEypv3Vz8o&t=1s

    After surgeries, I skied for the first time at 15 months post. April 2009

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 61, the new 61...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    I think you will be able to dance. It may not look the same as it did before your surgery but you should still be able to enjoy it.
    The concert would be up to now you feel about crowds. Remember the fused spine is not apparent to other people but you have to stay on your gaurd. When I go anywhere, I always scan the place to see where to stand or sit so as not to be bumped into. At a concert ,if you can choose your spot , you should be ok.
    T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
    Fractured t-9 six days out of surgery
    C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
    PJK at t-9
    T2--T10 fusion 2/11
    Removal of left side t6-t10. 8/14
    C 4-5 fusion 11/14
    Right scapulectomy 6/15
    Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
    To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16

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    Ed i feel you are correct about the second wave of the virus. Actually I think right now we are having a stunning number of new cases.
    Fall also brings on the regular flu season anyway.I
    I know my Dr will not proceed with fixing my shoulder blade because of the potential of this second wave.
    T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
    Fractured t-9 six days out of surgery
    C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
    PJK at t-9
    T2--T10 fusion 2/11
    Removal of left side t6-t10. 8/14
    C 4-5 fusion 11/14
    Right scapulectomy 6/15
    Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
    To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16

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    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    Moderna 3rd phase trials start in July with 30,000 people. There is a huge push going on.

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/mo...ccine-by-july/

    I was forced to go see Rod Stewart years ago...average age was probably 65, and the ambulances were lined up for that show. Every time Rod would shake his hips (to the bass drum) a few would faint.

    I shake my hips and nothing happens. Maybe it was the bass drum. Ha ha

    I've been horseback riding and skiing, but not dancing or any concerts. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to dance as long as things go ok with the surgeries.

    There is a possible 2nd COVID wave coming that everyone is jumpy about. Or at least in the markets....Recovery rates have risen, but also new cases have risen. This is not good.

    Here is a video of me skiing after my surgeries. I am in the red jacket. This was Jan 2011
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tEypv3Vz8o&t=1s

    After surgeries, I skied for the first time at 15 months post. April 2009

    Ed
    Have you been skiing since then? Wherever you were landscape was beautiful. Thanks for info regarding vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackieg412 View Post
    I think you will be able to dance. It may not look the same as it did before your surgery but you should still be able to enjoy it.
    The concert would be up to now you feel about crowds. Remember the fused spine is not apparent to other people but you have to stay on your gaurd. When I go anywhere, I always scan the place to see where to stand or sit so as not to be bumped into. At a concert ,if you can choose your spot , you should be ok.
    Hadnít thought about the risks of being bumped into guessing that would hurt. Is there possibility of rod breaking if youíre bumped into? Last concert I went to was 2014 floor seats to see Pink Floyd. Rather pay extra than in the nose bleed sections where you canít hardly see them. Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackieg412 View Post
    Ed i feel you are correct about the second wave of the virus. Actually I think right now we are having a stunning number of new cases.
    Fall also brings on the regular flu season anyway.I
    I know my Dr will not proceed with fixing my shoulder blade because of the potential of this second wave.
    Jackie, I follow these sites for COVID figures. Also, you can check with the county that you currently reside in for local zip code data. Sites will have moving average charting.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    https://www.washoecounty.us/health/p...s/COVID-19.php

    I guess using the "Second wave" would be incorrect if the first wave never dropped. This virus is NOT giving us a break. And I do not believe the China figures.

    All we can do is wait and try to stay healthy.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 61, the new 61...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scared View Post
    Have you been skiing since then? Wherever you were landscape was beautiful. Thanks for info regarding vaccines.
    I pretty much stopped skiing in 2013 because of the lack of deep snow, and my neck problems. We actually had some of the best powder skiing in a LONG time in Feb, 2019, but I was not doing well during that time.

    That video was shot at Donner Summit at the northern end of Lake Tahoe.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 61, the new 61...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    And I do not believe the China figures.
    I don't believe certain State figures.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooka1 View Post
    I don't believe certain State figures.
    Well, one thing is certain. Where there is no population, there is no COVID. Logic would mean that highly populated areas would have higher figures.

    With medicine, you have good news and you have bad news. We can only hope that the scientists can discover something someday. FDR started the March of Dimes for Polio hoping that someday a guy like Jonas Salk would make a discovery. It happened about 8 years after FDR died. Funny since the experts are now thinking he had Guillain Barre.

    We will take anything right now. The scientists doing work on COVID could perhaps stumble across something good. Who knows? Many inventions are due to discovery....hints lead to attempts, and then Bingo.

    Brazil is on fire. Russia also. California and Nevada are also up. Sigh....I was hoping we would get a break.

    I should be travelling now.....but should I take the gamble? I have gambled on serious surgery, and it worked, but take that chance again?

    I will put my Munsters Grandpa outfit on and go hang in the closet for now. I am used to this from my old inversion boot days living up at the lake.

    For the younger readers....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandpa_(The_Munsters)


    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 61, the new 61...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    I guess everyone has made adjustments in this covid pandemic. I don't think I will start too far from home. I go outside a lot but not too far.
    Prior to March I was volunteering at my local hospital. I am southwest of Chicago in small town. The hospital isn't as large as Chicago city hospitals. But in this small location they have housed 394 patients to go home. They do not tell me how many didn't make it . They are still treating around 40. This isn't the ones that just can stay home. The hospital has not allowed any volunteers to return until July.
    Come fall they probably won't allow us there again. Also even in July no volunteers in the emergency deptment, at main lobby of Dr office location. They are treating it extremely serious.I
    I will take my cue from them.
    T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
    Fractured t-9 six days out of surgery
    C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
    PJK at t-9
    T2--T10 fusion 2/11
    Removal of left side t6-t10. 8/14
    C 4-5 fusion 11/14
    Right scapulectomy 6/15
    Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
    To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16

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    I'd like to remind folks that this is a scoliosis forum. While the virus is something to consider for those planning surgery, I want to ensure that threads don't get hijacked.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scared View Post
    As I struggle with going forward with the surgery, I got to thinking of how much I love to dance. Nowadays I can only dance while driving. After Dr Gupta delayed my surgery + the Coronvirus, I am looking at around 2 years to have surgery. I donít want to get it before a vaccine comes out. I would also be around 66 years old. Then found out my only 2 friends canít help me once in-home health aides leave wonít be available. Since this surgery is a crap shoot & you wonít know what your life will be like after surgery you need some kind of support system to last 1-2 years. Needless to say Iím pretty bummed about the whole thing. I was just listening to some songs now called classic rock (Jackson Brown, Allman Brothers) & got to thinking, of after my recovery (fused T4-pelvic), if I could dance again & go to concerts (Iím sure thereíll still be some old farts left) that would be the deal breaker for me to do the surgery). Need folks experience & opinions. Thanks
    Even though I keep reading about promising vaccine research all over the place, it may never happen. I wouldn't wait for it if it was me. But good treatments for the coronavirus may happen, like with HIV.

    Do know that 66 is not too old to get the surgery. When I got mine I saw people probably in their 70's and above recovering from back surgery.

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    Doctors who think they are ďGodsĒ

    I donít understand why it seems that the folks posting here only talk about how itís their decision about getting surgery but in my case itís 1 of the so called best Scoliosis drs in USA dumbass dr who held up my surgery in January over NOTHING!!!! LACK OF FAMILY!!! HUSBAND!!! RISKS that everyone my age is subject to!!! So I am hanging on by a thread & w/ this virus appearing does anyone out there want to go back & ask the dumbass again ďcan I get the surgery?Ē Iím not going to drive 5 1/1 hrs in pain & spend $ I donít have only to look back at his stone cold eyes & be told no again. Hell nobody in his office is even answering the phone. I have had it! And people wonder why you never hear back from people again on this forum- itís because nobody cares about them- no matter how much pain they are in or lack of quality of life. They are no longer on this earth. Iíve had it.

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    It is very difficult to be in your place. And all you are trying to do is move forward with your life.
    I would say this physician may not be the correct one for you. Not only will you need support from friends or family, you need support and confidence in your surgeon.
    There are so very many things to consider in surgery timing The virus has changed a lot of things.
    Also remember you may need a post hospital rehab center and that bring s concerns.
    If they aren't answering the phone they may be dealing with illness also.
    Try again and good luck.
    T10-pelvis fusion 12/08
    Fractured t-9 six days out of surgery
    C5,6,7 fusion 9/10
    PJK at t-9
    T2--T10 fusion 2/11
    Removal of left side t6-t10. 8/14
    C 4-5 fusion 11/14
    Right scapulectomy 6/15
    Right pectoralis major muscle transfer to scapula
    To replace the action of Serratus Anterior muscle 3/16

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