Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 6789 LastLast
Results 106 to 120 of 123

Thread: DD recently diagnosed -- any suggestions?

  1. #106
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    260
    Quote Originally Posted by Pooka1 View Post
    I fell of my young horse in March while mounting and broke my back... compression fracture of L3. Totally my fault, not hers. Anyway my lumbar has a curve that is slightly north of 10* so I have scoliosis. :-0 I think it was like that and not due to the fracture. Twelve weeks off the horse to heal which was the longest I haven't ridden since I started riding again in 2003. The barn owner kept my horse in training during my hiatus which was wonderful... about 70 more rides on a young horse really moves the needle.
    What do your daughters think of your having scoliosis, if 10 degrees can even be called scoliosis? I wonder how many people have this degree of curvature and they are never made aware of it.

  2. #107
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    9,281
    Quote Originally Posted by Tina_R View Post
    What do your daughters think of your having scoliosis, if 10 degrees can even be called scoliosis? I wonder how many people have this degree of curvature and they are never made aware of it.
    I don't think I mentioned it yet. It is really a different animal than what my daughters had. I think I read a lot of people my age have some small lumbar curve so it is not remarkable at all. I never would know had I not broke my back.

    I do know that I have a slight asymmetry in my seat that I compensate for to keep my horse straight. Maybe that it is. I always assumed it was adhesions from two pelvic surgeries or just one psoas is slightly tighter than the other. There is a slight tightness asymmetry when I work out that maps to the seat asymmetry. Horses are so sensitive to slight (ounce) changes in weight on each seat bones that if I didn't compensate my horse would turn from it. It's far too small to see from the outside... my horse and I can only feel it. Horses are amazing. We don't deserve them.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
    Answer: Medicine


    "We are all African."

  3. #108
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    reno,nevada
    Posts
    4,279

    Adult Degenerative Scoliosis Demographics

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina_R View Post
    I wonder how many people have this degree of curvature and they are never made aware of it.
    Degenerative scoliosis is typically diagnosed in patients older than 40 years and without a history of AIS.27 These are lumbar curves measuring > 10 with associated distal fractional curves. Although these lumbar curves are not associated with structural thoracic curves, compensatory thoracic curves can occur. As in AIS, curve prevalence in ADS is inversely proportional to curve magnitude. The prevalence of 10, 1020, and > 20 curves is 64, 44, and 24%, respectively.

    https://thejns.org/focus/view/journa...focus09271.xml

    10 degrees 64%
    10-20 degrees 44%
    Greater than 20 degrees 24%

    Scoliosis is defined as 10 degrees or more.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 62, the new 63...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

  4. #109
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    260
    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    Degenerative scoliosis is typically diagnosed in patients older than 40 years and without a history of AIS.27 These are lumbar curves measuring > 10 with associated distal fractional curves. Although these lumbar curves are not associated with structural thoracic curves, compensatory thoracic curves can occur. As in AIS, curve prevalence in ADS is inversely proportional to curve magnitude. The prevalence of 10, 1020, and > 20 curves is 64, 44, and 24%, respectively.

    https://thejns.org/focus/view/journa...focus09271.xml

    10 degrees 64%
    10-20 degrees 44%
    Greater than 20 degrees 24%

    Scoliosis is defined as 10 degrees or more.

    Ed
    How do you know it's degenerative? Pookah could have been 10 degrees her whole life. Doctors don't always notice small curves.

  5. #110
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    9,281
    It's possible I had it my whole life. Who knows.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
    Answer: Medicine


    "We are all African."

  6. #111
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    reno,nevada
    Posts
    4,279
    Quote Originally Posted by Tina_R View Post
    How do you know it's degenerative? Pookah could have been 10 degrees her whole life. Doctors don't always notice small curves.
    Degenerative? Well, I hate to post a negative answer, but the truth is that we as humans all have to deal with degeneration in some sort of fashion or level. If you scour the ageing/degenerative material, you will see that age 35 is stated often. (The start of the downhill slide) Experiencing problems with eyesight, hearing, to spinal disc herniations are signs that the degenerative process has begun. The values in the above paper are very high for degenerative scoliosis. Can we assume that half the people on the planet over age 40 have scoliosis? That would be billions of people....Idiopathic scoliosis values run about 2-3% Idiopathic scoliosis patients that need surgery are a much smaller number than 2-3%. I have not looked, but I would assume that adult spinal patients are the bulk of all spine problems and procedures.

    I agree that many Doctors will not point out a small scoliosis. There is no way of knowing unless a scoliosis surgeon shoots an x-ray and does an evaluation. Radiologists will point out a scoliosis as they are there to point out everything they see. Chiropractors will also let one know. Scoliosis patients need to understand Cobb angles and learn about the spine.

    As far as ageing is concerned, as an athlete most of my life I experienced this.....My 4 lumbar herniations were the result of a trauma from a hard landing at age 43. I wonder if I didnt do that jump or stopped jumping at that age how long would I have gone without sciatica? I did thousands of jumps during my lifetime up until that point. High jumps. My discs were wearing out from the abuse.

    Last week Diego Maradona passed away. He was THE best soccer player ever....There is no doubt about this....Of course we wonder what happened....and with many athletes, he experienced degeneration of his body. He used alcohol, ephedrine and cocaine for over 20 years, and was seriously overweight in his later years. He had a hematoma and had brain surgery and passed at age 60. His lifestyle in his later years probably accelerated his death.....accelerated the degernative process.

    Here is a video. My favorite is at 3:56 returning the ball to the center for the goal. He wears the #10 jersey.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmys...nel=TopPassion

    Back to DD, when you are young scoli, have as much fun as possible. You can ignore scoliosis for a while, but check ups should probably happen at age 30, 35 and 40. Age 40 would be a mandatory evaluation with a scoliosis surgeon.

    Ed
    Last edited by titaniumed; 12-01-2020 at 09:15 AM.
    49 yr old male, now 62, the new 63...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

  7. #112
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    7,153
    Degenerative (or, in medical terms, de novo) scoliosis is defined as a later life onset scoliosis. It's usually very easy to diagnose, as it rarely involves the thoracic spine, and the curve is often relatively sharp.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...40738308000907
    Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
    Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

  8. #113
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    reno,nevada
    Posts
    4,279
    The upper left x-ray looks just like Kathy's x-ray....

    Accidents or trauma's at an older age can be hard to heal. Sharon, you might want to keep an eye on your spine....

    This is an adolescent thread.....with scoliosis, and sports related chatter.

    Before you lose hope, watch this short film. Take inspiration from Maradona. Perhaps the foundations, or beginning of goal setting. Attributes like this are needed for sports, and also scoliosis and hardcore deformity surgery. The drive and will to succeed needs to be there 100%. I had this with my skiing and (very important) my difficult surgeries. My Doctors commented on it when I was in the hospital. Your always going to be injured, but you keep playing.....I also skied in pain, this film reminds me of those times. When I broke my arm and shoulder skiing, I skied out holding my arm and drove home alone. (At age 49... ha ha)

    We are all athletes.....keep kicking the soccer ball

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0wN...ories-OhMyGoal

    Eye/hand coordination? I guess its eye/foot coordination (smiley face)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPA-...ories-OhMyGoal


    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 62, the new 63...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

  9. #114
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts
    117
    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    The upper left x-ray looks just like Kathy's x-ray....
    I thought the same thing, Ed! It's been 4-1/2 years since my surgery, and when I look at my "before" x-rays I sort of cringe..... I still get a bit of anxiety when I think about if I ever have to go back to living in that kind of pain. Not sure I could do it again for very long.....

    Kathy
    Decompression surgery L4/L5
    April 3, 2015
    Twin Cities Spine Center - Dr. Joseph Perra
    Fused from T11 - Sacrum anterior/posterior
    June 24, 2016 - 55 years old at surgery
    Twin Cities Spine Center - Dr. Joseph Perra
    Before Surgery: 42 degrees lumbar, 28 degrees thoracic
    After Surgery: 10 degrees lumbar, ?? Thoracic
    2 inches taller

  10. #115
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    reno,nevada
    Posts
    4,279
    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInIowa View Post
    I thought the same thing, Ed! It's been 4-1/2 years since my surgery, and when I look at my "before" x-rays I sort of cringe..... I still get a bit of anxiety when I think about if I ever have to go back to living in that kind of pain. Not sure I could do it again for very long.....
    Kathy
    I don't know either.....I don't cringe, but don't expect or anticipate any spine related pain events to happen...fingers crossed. My surgeries were a success, so were yours. I wouldn't be here without my surgeries.

    I don't think it's worth worrying about....better to take things day by day. I guess I did enough worrying before my scoliosis surgeries that I can't worry anymore. I hope this makes sense.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 62, the new 63...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

  11. #116
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    53

    Non-scoli update.

    Freshman year is going as well as could be hoped for under the circumstances. In-person school two days a week (two homework days and one remote learning day), and her HS basketball team is giving her a good outlet to be around kids her own age almost every day. No back pain, and no noticeable height loss except maybe after pounding on the court at practice for two hours.

    Speaking of, she's killing it. Started every varsity game as a freshman, averaging double figures, leading the team in scoring, and she's in the top five in the state in scoring for freshmen. The season is about half over. We've gotten to go to about half the games and had to watch half on streaming. I spent one night watching the second half of a game from a window outside the gym when it was like 10 degrees out when the school camera wasn't working. It was worth it!

    Hope everyone is doing well.

  12. #117
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    9,281
    Great news, Concerneddad!

    I feel so bad for kids entering college/grad school during the pandemic.

    Has your daughter picked a major? It's early yet.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
    Answer: Medicine


    "We are all African."

  13. #118
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    reno,nevada
    Posts
    4,279
    Yes, very good...Sports are great at diverting scoliosis thoughts....Does she even mention it anymore?

    I can just see you outside the gym freezing to death watching the game. I posted a photo below, is this pretty close? (smiley face)

    Ed
    Attached Images Attached Images
    49 yr old male, now 62, the new 63...
    Pre surgery curves T70,L70
    ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

  14. #119
    Join Date
    Aug 2019
    Posts
    53
    Quote Originally Posted by Pooka1 View Post
    Great news, Concerneddad!

    I feel so bad for kids entering college/grad school during the pandemic.

    Has your daughter picked a major? It's early yet.
    I mean a freshman in high school! But it sucks for them too. My spouse feels bad because she's not getting to do the things that "normal" 14-15 yo girls get to do when they start high school -- go to social events and hang out with friends and meet boys. I feel less bad about the boys part.

  15. #120
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    9,281
    Quote Originally Posted by Concerneddad View Post
    I mean a freshman in high school! But it sucks for them too. My spouse feels bad because she's not getting to do the things that "normal" 14-15 yo girls get to do when they start high school -- go to social events and hang out with friends and meet boys. I feel less bad about the boys part.
    Oh hey sorry about losing the story line there! Yes high school. :-)

    It must be hard trying to learn under these conditions but it can be done. My colleague's daughter managed to complete a boatload of AP classes and got into UNC. Very cool.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
    Answer: Medicine


    "We are all African."

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •