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  • #16
    what i was questioning was whether i was
    looking at one curve or two...
    i know what listhesis is...i have it, too...
    i never heard a surgeon describe it as dangerous, but maybe it
    depends on where in the spine it occurs...

    jess...& Sparky

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    • #17
      Jess,
      There are different grades of listhesis, depending how much and where the vertebrae has shifted. If the vertebrae shifts too much, it can pinch off the spinal nerve roots and can cause caudal equina which is definitely dangerous. I remember the day that my vertebrae in the lumbar shifted. I was lifting a very heavy box on saline onto a push-car and I actually felt it slip - no pain whatsoever but I lost an inch that day. It was a few days later that all hell broke loose and I experienced a 10+ on the pain scale and my husband had to take me to the hospital.
      Sally
      Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
      Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
      Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
      Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
      New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
      Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

      "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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      • #18
        hi Sally
        that is how i felt when i herniated discs...
        i was at work...i lifted a little kindergarten chair...
        something i did a hundred times before...
        i felt something give in my lower spine...and then the pain
        set in...i couldn't walk 2 steps without being in agony...
        i stuck it out til the next day....
        ended up crying at work, going to my doctor during the work
        day...and he showed me the discs on Xray...

        as for listhesis, there are times i feel like my spine is collapsing on itself...almost like dominoes...and i never felt that before...

        jess

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        • #19
          Jess.
          Do you think that maybe it is time for you to say "yes" to surgery? These spines don't get better by themselves like a cold or the flu. I think the reason that I still have pain after fusion surgery is because I wasn't diagnosed properly in the first place, nor was I referred to a scoliosis specialist, so it was almost beyond the time that I should have had surgery when I finally found Doctor Rand on my own. We are all here to support you, you know.
          Sally
          Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
          Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
          Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
          Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
          New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
          Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

          "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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          • #20
            thanks Sally...
            i know how bad my spine has gotten...
            i am avoiding the obvious...

            i was kinda wondering why you are in pain after your
            fusion surgery has healed...
            i wish you the best and hope there is something that will
            eliminate your pain for you...

            jess...& Sparky

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            • #21
              Originally posted by jrnyc View Post
              thanks Sally...
              i know how bad my spine has gotten...
              i am avoiding the obvious...

              i was kinda wondering why you are in pain after your
              fusion surgery has healed...
              i wish you the best and hope there is something that will
              eliminate your pain for you...

              jess...& Sparky
              Jess,
              I think I am still in pain because the nerve roots were pinched and trapped so badly that permanent damage resulted. If a nerve is pinched too long, permanent damage can happen. That is the danger of waiting too long. The fusion stopped the progression and the decompression of the nerves give them more space to hopefully recover from being pinched. If they don't recover in two years then it can be assumed that they are not going to recover. I have had my third SI joint injection. It that doesn't help, then I am going to talk to Dr. Hey about removing the illiac screws. Another possibility that has been presented to me is nerve ablation of the SI joints. Also the spinal cord implants. The increase in the dosage of my Neurontin has helped somewhat and I am thankful for that, but I don't really want to be on Neurontin for the rest of my life.
              Sally
              Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
              Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
              Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
              Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
              New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
              Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

              "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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              • #22
                hey Sally
                feel like i am misdirecting this thread...
                will PM you...

                jess

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jrnyc View Post
                  hey Sally
                  feel like i am misdirecting this thread...
                  will PM you...

                  jess
                  I started the thread and I disagree that it is being misdirected. :-)

                  You and Sally are still on topic. Topic drift is an imaginary problem... the point of this forum is to help folks.

                  An example of misdirecting a thread is if someone out of the blue posts a picture of an orphan otter being bottlefed like so...

                  http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=1&permPage=1

                  But even then, I would excuse it because it is that cute. :-)
                  Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

                  No island of sanity.

                  Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
                  Answer: Medicine


                  "We are all African."

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                  • #24
                    thanks, Sharon...
                    you are so gracious....

                    that is a really cute pic....so sweet...

                    jess...& Sparky

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                    • #25
                      Jess, you always post on topic.

                      The only thing that "might" derail a thread is some Lawrence Welk singers doing "One Toke Over the Line". LOL. That one goes out to Ti Ed!

                      http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress..../unbelievable/
                      Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

                      No island of sanity.

                      Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
                      Answer: Medicine


                      "We are all African."

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                      • #26
                        WHAT A CUTE PHOTO!!!!

                        And I agree - Jess, we are here to discuss all things related to scoliosis. As Sharon pointed out, topic drift is an imaginary problem anyway :-)
                        mariaf305@yahoo.com
                        Mom to David, age 17, braced June 2000 to March 2004
                        Vertebral Body Stapling 3/10/04 for 40 degree curve (currently mid 20's)

                        https://www.facebook.com/groups/ScoliosisTethering/

                        http://pediatricspinefoundation.org/

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