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  • #16
    Originally posted by skevimc View Post
    No hammering from me.

    I'm sure other vitamins, e.g. B vitamins, are necessary or important to proper absorption. But the things I've been reading on vit D deal specifically with strength and D levels and vit D receptors. For example giving D to different populations and measuring strength and lean mass. The results are pretty surprising although it's still very new information. Also there are some slight changes in the genetic receptor profile that are linked to decreased strength and muscle mass.

    Emotions.... Indeed. When I'm at a conference going to different seminars, the rooms talking about surgery and drugs are always packed to the gills. I mosey over to the QOL and exercise seminars and you can generally sit anywhere you want. Medicine and bio-research so frequently over look that exercise is itself a very powerful drug. And actually to be fair, the general public forgets this as well.
    Insightful comments - much food for thought. Thank you

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    • #17
      Originally posted by skevimc View Post
      Emotions.... Indeed. When I'm at a conference going to different seminars, the rooms talking about surgery and drugs are always packed to the gills. I mosey over to the QOL and exercise seminars and you can generally sit anywhere you want. Medicine and bio-research so frequently over look that exercise is itself a very powerful drug. And actually to be fair, the general public forgets this as well.
      Thank you Kevin. If we could get the Surgeon General to state that exercise is a powerful drug, more of us would be healthier. Seriously, it is true - or so my very exercise minded daughter tells me.

      In all of your travels - did you ever come across the work of David Berceli? I've been reading about his work in Trauma Release Exercise.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mamamax View Post
        If we could get the Surgeon General to state that exercise is a powerful drug, more of us would be healthier.
        Just hearing the surgeon general say that would make us healthier? I doubt a single person would start exercising after simply having heard that.

        If it was easy we would all be fit.
        Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

        No island of sanity.

        Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
        Answer: Medicine


        "We are all African."

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        • #19
          Sharon -Do you ever tire of hammering every single thought I express? I think it is your exercise

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          • #20
            Originally posted by mamamax View Post
            Sharon -Do you ever tire of hammering every single thought I express? I think it is your exercise
            Pretty much. That and marveling at the amazing things some socialists say.

            Some posts and threads I don't read. Your posts I read. A double edged sword?
            Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

            No island of sanity.

            Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
            Answer: Medicine


            "We are all African."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
              Pretty much. That and marveling at the amazing things some socialists say.
              Oh, hey! I heard that!

              BTW, I believe the official term is "stinkin' pinko"

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              • #22
                hmmmm ......

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by skevimc View Post
                  Medicine and bio-research so frequently over look that exercise is itself a very powerful drug. And actually to be fair, the general public forgets this as well.
                  Kevin -

                  In all of your travels - did you ever come across the work of David Berceli? I've been reading about his work in Trauma Release Exercise and find it fascinating.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by hdugger View Post
                    Oh, hey! I heard that!

                    BTW, I believe the official term is "stinkin' pinko"
                    Actually, socialism is a defensible position in my opinion.

                    Where socialists leave the tracks in when they take devil's advocate arguments to patently ridiculous extremes and end up appearing to defend nonsense "science" just because it appeals to the unwashed masses.



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                    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

                    No island of sanity.

                    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
                    Answer: Medicine


                    "We are all African."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mamamax View Post
                      [COLOR="Navy"]Thank you Kevin. If we could get the Surgeon General to state that exercise is a powerful drug, more of us would be healthier. Seriously, it is true - or so my very exercise minded daughter tells me.
                      There's a great picture taken at the ACSM conference (American College of Sports Medicine). It was a pseudo-experiment done on the 'leaders' in exercise research. They took a sign or a cone or something (it's been a while since I've seen the picture. I'll see if I can find it.) and put it in front of the escalator implying that it was broken. The stairs were right next to it. (You know at conference centers where the escalators are on the sides and a double row of stairs runs down the middle). Anyway, it was a short flight of stairs. The picture shows that people walked around the cones and took the escalator instead of the 10 or 15 stairs. Like I said, this was at the ACSM conference. So it's even impossible to get the scientists who show how beneficial exercise is to exercise.

                      Then you get knuckle-heads who write articles like this. Taking studies and twisting their findings to create a headline that will sell magazines. I excuse the public for not knowing what to believe.

                      Originally posted by mamamax View Post

                      In all of your travels - did you ever come across the work of David Berceli? I've been reading about his work in Trauma Release Exercise.
                      I haven't come across him that I know of. Looking briefly at his stuff, it does look pretty interesting. The more I study the more I'm amazed at how beneficial exercise is. Our bodies are made to move and keep moving. We're not made to be sedentary.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by skevimc View Post
                        There's a great picture taken at the ACSM conference (American College of Sports Medicine). It was a pseudo-experiment done on the 'leaders' in exercise research. They took a sign or a cone or something (it's been a while since I've seen the picture. I'll see if I can find it.) and put it in front of the escalator implying that it was broken. The stairs were right next to it. (You know at conference centers where the escalators are on the sides and a double row of stairs runs down the middle). Anyway, it was a short flight of stairs. The picture shows that people walked around the cones and took the escalator instead of the 10 or 15 stairs. Like I said, this was at the ACSM conference. So it's even impossible to get the scientists who show how beneficial exercise is to exercise.
                        Reminds me of who you find in the outside smoking sections of major hospitals - the respiratory therapists!

                        I haven't come across him that I know of. Looking briefly at his stuff, it does look pretty interesting. The more I study the more I'm amazed at how beneficial exercise is. Our bodies are made to move and keep moving. We're not made to be sedentary.
                        Looks like his focus is on the fight/flight psoas muscle - along with the theory that trauma is held (and accumulated) within the body. Lots of articles seem to indicate that this particular muscle can play hell with the pelvis area, lumbar spine and shoulders - pulling them out of alignment. I'm kind of surprised we don't hear much about this from our medical doctors - certainly could be something to consider with my curvature pattern. Martha Hawes had many sessions with a reflexologist to address just that (the psoas muscle), and in her memoir states that she believes that worked to pave the way for future changes for the better. Berceli's exercises remind me a lot of reflexology but they can be done without assistance and are non invasive. Liz Koch endorses his method and she seems to be the expert in that field. I'm going to work with them awhile and see how it goes.

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                        • #27
                          vit d deficiency

                          I'm 55, severe scoliosis, and my dr just told me I'm vit D deficient. I started 2000 IU 3 times a week. will be checking to see if this helps... I do have osteopenia in the higher hip. will keep an eye on it. didn't realize it goes hand in hand with scoliosis... thanks!

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                          • #28
                            There was a paper presented yesterday at the SRS annual meeting titled "Preoperative Vitamin D Deficiency in Adults Undergoing Spinal Deformity Surgery". They state that "The mean vitamin D level was 31.7 +13.3 ng/mL. Of 83 patients, 54% were vitamin D inadequate (<32 ng/mL) and 18% were deficient (<20).
                            Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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                            Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
                            Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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                            • #29
                              I had low Vitamin D. Taking supplements now and have normal numbers
                              Melissa

                              Fused from C2 - sacrum 7/2011

                              April 21, 2020- another broken rod surgery

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                              • #30
                                This thread caught my eye as our son was just diagnosed w scoliosis (49% now 56%) and vitamin D deficiency. Surprise on both, as he downs 3 bowls of cereal w soy milk each day and plays outside several days a week. I'd like to see more studies on this.
                                Mom of 14yo son diagnosed Oct 2011
                                Surgery 1/3/12 w Dr. Geof Cronen,
                                Tampa General Hospital T3 to L1
                                Jacob's pre surg curves: T58 & L31 12/28/11
                                photos & xrays in "First-Time Surgery" thread "Before & After"

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