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    Hey everyone....me again. I have my pre op on Jan 8th & Im sure I will find this fun stuff out then....BUT until then, where does the bone graph come from for the fusion...as far as where, within my body...as Im donating my own. Hip bone Id assume? And, its this typically something they do along w/the surgery or before sometime? And, Im assuming this would involve yet another surgery/scar...cuz the 2 from the anterior and posterior wont be enough, right? (pure sarcazm of course) Let me know -thanks everyone!! What would I do w/out this site?!?!?!?!?
    Lynn -30.... something
    DxD @ 8 yrs old: 10* curve-no brace-no nothin'!
    At age 26: Thorasic 48*/Lumbar 50*
    At age 34: Thorasic 58*/Lumbar 60*
    Posterior T5-L4 Fusion Jan 14th, 2009 w/Dr Tribus
    UW Madison, WI Hospital
    **AFTER: less than 10* Thorasic/15* Lumbar**

  • #2
    Hey, Lynn-
    Mine came from a couple ribs they took in order to reduce my rib hump. That way they didn't need to whittle on my poor hips. I got my records from the hospital and read my op reports. I had a long fusion, so they used the ribs, some donor bone, some bone morphogenetic protein and some bone marrow that they aspirated from my iliac crests, but no actual bone from my hips.

    What about everybody else? =)
    Posterior fusion T5-L1 May 5, 2003-age 43
    Posterior revision, thoracotomy,fusion T2-L2 April 8, 2008-age 49
    Fusion extension C1-L2 evacuation left pulmonary effusion May 9, 2008, age 49
    www.buggfamily.blogspot.com

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    • #3
      They used the Transverse and Spinous Processes from my vertebrae that they removed to achieve a better correction. They also used some BMP to help speed up the fusion. I have a long fusion, T4 to the Sacrum.
      Geish
      47 years old, dx at 13
      +30* to the right, +60* to the left, +30* to the right
      Surgery 12-13-07 - fusion from T4 to sacrum.


      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=267 Pre surgery
      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=268 Post surgery
      http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC01091.jpg Xray from the side
      http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1089-1-1-1.jpg Xray from the back

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      • #4
        Thanks Trish & Geish....so it can come from various places.....did they do it at the same time they did the actual surgery then or was it done a whole different day?
        Lynn -30.... something
        DxD @ 8 yrs old: 10* curve-no brace-no nothin'!
        At age 26: Thorasic 48*/Lumbar 50*
        At age 34: Thorasic 58*/Lumbar 60*
        Posterior T5-L4 Fusion Jan 14th, 2009 w/Dr Tribus
        UW Madison, WI Hospital
        **AFTER: less than 10* Thorasic/15* Lumbar**

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        • #5
          I had posterior surgery and they just snipped them off as they were doing the surgery. My surgery was close to 9 hours. I ended up wearing a brace for almost 5 months whenever I wasn't lying down or in the shower. I wasn't allowed to stand up in the hospital until I was given my brace, not that I had any desire to stand up before then. Oh, I went home on day 6 post op. It was a long, rainy, foggy, snowy, heavy traffic ride home...4 1/2 hours!
          Geish
          47 years old, dx at 13
          +30* to the right, +60* to the left, +30* to the right
          Surgery 12-13-07 - fusion from T4 to sacrum.


          http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=267 Pre surgery
          http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=268 Post surgery
          http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC01091.jpg Xray from the side
          http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1089-1-1-1.jpg Xray from the back

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          • #6
            Geish - wow, I just now realized you have/had is a better word....3 curves huh? You look great in that post op pic. How many weeks/months out was that one taken? Wow--and home on day 6!! I wonder why I need to have anterior AND posterior??? Questions for the doc I guess......
            Lynn -30.... something
            DxD @ 8 yrs old: 10* curve-no brace-no nothin'!
            At age 26: Thorasic 48*/Lumbar 50*
            At age 34: Thorasic 58*/Lumbar 60*
            Posterior T5-L4 Fusion Jan 14th, 2009 w/Dr Tribus
            UW Madison, WI Hospital
            **AFTER: less than 10* Thorasic/15* Lumbar**

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            • #7
              They used my ribs. I had 8 ribs in total removed, and they used those to help fuse me.

              Did anyone have their ribs grow back? Mine did, but then I was very young and I guess that makes a difference.
              Surgeries July 26th & August 3rd 1983 (12 years old)
              Still have 57 degree curve
              2 Harrington rods
              Luque method used
              Dr David Bradford
              Twin Cities Scoliosis Center
              Preop xray (with brace on)
              Postop xray

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Qikdraw View Post
                They used my ribs. I had 8 ribs in total removed, and they used those to help fuse me.

                Did anyone have their ribs grow back? Mine did, but then I was very young and I guess that makes a difference.
                Actually, the ribs will grow back if the periosteum (a membrane that covers ribs) isn't removed.

                --Linda
                Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
                ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
                Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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                • #9
                  Hi Geish,

                  I have a question? Why did you have to wear a brace and how did they determine how long you had to wear it? What benefit did it have and were there any restrictions they placed on you when wearing it??

                  And OMG!!! ribs grow back?????? How does bone grow???? How unique!!

                  Lisa
                  Mum to Tahlia, aged 15. Fused from T2 - L3, 18/11/08.

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                  • #10
                    For my daughter, they did "Smith-Peterson osteotomies" at varies places on her spine in order to get a better correction so they used the bone from that for her fusion.

                    Mary Lou
                    Mom to Jamie age 21-diagnosed at age 12-spinal fusion 12/7/2004-fused from T3-L2; and Tracy age 19, mild Scoliosis-diagnosed at age 18.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kitty View Post
                      Hi Geish,

                      I have a question? Why did you have to wear a brace and how did they determine how long you had to wear it? What benefit did it have and were there any restrictions they placed on you when wearing it??

                      And OMG!!! ribs grow back?????? How does bone grow???? How unique!!

                      Lisa
                      I wore the brace because it was such a long fusion. I think they do that as more of a reminder than anything else that you are not allowed to bend. The restrictions were the same as without the brace with the exception that I wasn't allowed to sit up in bed until I got the brace on. It took about 3 weeks before I figured out how to get it on by myself so I didn't have to wake up one of my daughters when I had to use the bathroom in the middle of the night.
                      Geish
                      47 years old, dx at 13
                      +30* to the right, +60* to the left, +30* to the right
                      Surgery 12-13-07 - fusion from T4 to sacrum.


                      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=267 Pre surgery
                      http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=268 Post surgery
                      http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC01091.jpg Xray from the side
                      http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1089-1-1-1.jpg Xray from the back

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LynnMarie74 View Post
                        Geish - wow, I just now realized you have/had is a better word....3 curves huh? You look great in that post op pic. How many weeks/months out was that one taken? Wow--and home on day 6!! I wonder why I need to have anterior AND posterior??? Questions for the doc I guess......
                        Hmmm...I think it was taken at about 5 weeks post op. And yes there were 3! My poor torso was pretty smushed by the time surgery rolled around. Now its all stretched out and my tummy is pretty flat! I also gained close to 2 inches in height.

                        I think some surgeons do what they know, so you get an anterior approach or a posterior approach or both. I think others do which ever approach they feel will give the best correction. I asked if I was having an anterior approach and my surgeon said he didn't feel that my back/surgery required one.
                        Geish
                        47 years old, dx at 13
                        +30* to the right, +60* to the left, +30* to the right
                        Surgery 12-13-07 - fusion from T4 to sacrum.


                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=267 Pre surgery
                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=268 Post surgery
                        http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC01091.jpg Xray from the side
                        http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1089-1-1-1.jpg Xray from the back

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                        • #13
                          Hi LynnMarie,

                          Mine came from part of my hip as well as from the bone off the vertebrae. I don't have an extra scar on my hip, but I do have what looks like a little bump or mole where the graph came from. Some people say that the part hurts a lot, but to put your mine at ease - mine hasn't bothered me. I don't even know it is there.

                          I'll be thinking of you on the 14th. Oh - because of your drive back to Milwaukee - make sure you have LOTS of pillows in your car to make yourself as comfortable as possible. Make sure you also take enough pain meds right before you get in the car.

                          Best,
                          Anya
                          "You must be the change you want to see in the world."

                          Previously 55 degree thoracolumbar curve
                          Surgery June 5, 2007 - Dr. Clifford Tribus, University of Wisconsin Hospital
                          19 degrees post-op!

                          http://abhbarry.blogspot.com

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LindaRacine View Post
                            Actually, the ribs will grow back if the periosteum (a membrane that covers ribs) isn't removed.

                            --Linda
                            So they will grow back no matter the age, as long as that membrane stays?

                            Thats pretty cool!
                            Surgeries July 26th & August 3rd 1983 (12 years old)
                            Still have 57 degree curve
                            2 Harrington rods
                            Luque method used
                            Dr David Bradford
                            Twin Cities Scoliosis Center
                            Preop xray (with brace on)
                            Postop xray

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