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06-12-2010, 08:37 PM
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Wich are the guilty ones?
When my daughter is lying down over the concave side, I see her spine straight, but just she is stand up, the curve appears immediately again. Which is the guilty of this impossibility to keep the spine straight?
_Muscles _ligaments? _Tendons? _Vertbras _Discs _Rib cage? _Joints _Internal organs _Fascias _Something else? Saying in other words, if it would be possible to improve without limits only one of these body parts, which of them you’ll select? May be a combination of all, but I can not believe that percentages of incidence could be the same for all. Could it be different for everyone? One surgeon said me that vertebras (and probably she said discs too) are the guiltys without any doubt, another surgeon said me that muscles, other said me 80% muscles 20% joints, internal organs are the guilty for some western therapists. Surely Abr people thinks that it is the pneumatic skeleton. This week I was thinking ABR people are right. Last week I thought the first surgeon was right, Last month I thought second surgeon was right.. I don’t know what I’ll think tomorrow. Now, I'm thinking about muscles again, but not because strength, as some months ago, but because length. I think that is not a mater of short length in the convex side, as I heard, but it is because muscles of the concave side are much longer.. Or may be because ligaments? What do you think? Every kind of answer seem to be so reasonable as any other. 
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06-12-2010, 09:04 PM
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The SEAS people in Italy claim three components: muscles, ligaments, and bone
Someone lying, in a brace, shows just the effect of the bone Someone lying, not in a brace, shows the effect of the bone and ligaments Someone standing without a brace shows the effect of all three At least, that's their theory
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06-12-2010, 09:52 PM
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06-12-2010, 10:32 PM
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I don't recall. You can look them up - google on SEAS scoliosis. They have a huge text they link to from their front page, and I *think* this is in there somewhere.
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#6
06-12-2010, 11:29 PM
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Here's their main site - http://www.isico.it/ukcosa.htm
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06-12-2010, 11:34 PM
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And here's the graphic that shows their notion of the role of bones, ligaments, and muscles in scoliosis:
http://www.scoliosisjournal.com/cont...1/20/figure/F7
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#9
06-15-2010, 09:20 PM
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06-16-2010, 04:10 AM
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 Seriously though, it does look like the SEAS folks are on to something.
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Idiopathic, from the Latin meaning: we're idiots 'cause we can't figure out what's causing it (TV Dr. House, MD)
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#11
06-17-2010, 09:09 AM
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ligaments are the guily ones?
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#12
06-19-2010, 06:55 PM
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are the discs?
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06-19-2010, 07:34 PM
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I think you should post this under the research section so some of the Ph.D.'s will comment on this one. 
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#14
06-19-2010, 07:50 PM
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If in doubt, I think the chiros are the guilty party for pretending to treat a condition for which they have no relevant training.
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Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis Now 50, the new 51. "As we should all know by now, when you see an argument about tone, you see somebody who’s avoiding the substantive issues." -- Jerry Coyne, Professor of Ecology and Evolution, University of Chicago "Science is what we do to keep us from lying to ourselves." -- Richard Feynman, Nobel Physicist and genius What can be asserted on no evidence can be dismissed on no evidence.
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06-20-2010, 08:35 PM
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 How are chiros involved in this topic? Is it like in Scuby Doo, when they can't figure it out, they blame Red Herring?
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