Torso Rotation

[turtlelover]

Hey Folks!

I have read through many of your posts since my daughter was diagnosed with scoliosis and they have helped. I want you all to know it has helped.

My daughter went to see Larry Nassar DO @ MSU for a gymnastics injury in the first week of March this year, and after a complete work up he diagnosed scoliosis. She is pre-menarche 11 years old.

Her first X Ray read a COBB angle of 9 degrees. Mild, but noticeable to her, painful, and in need of therapy.

I started to read. This forum up and down, Pub Med, I consulted the folks in Canada.

We tried Scroth (I bought the book) and copied the exercises without professional help (we lacked access and funds), diet - I put her on fatty acid supplements, and vitamins. We eat no fish at our house. I blocked out all the light in her room and bought her orange glasses to read with and play video games with at night.

Her second X ray was the last week in June COBB angle measured 11 degrees.

We returned home to North Carolina after a year of sabbatical in the first week of July and I bought a Cybex torso rotation machine used, in Florida, for $500 and had it shipped U SHIP for $200 and she has worked out on it every day since.

Yesterday we got another X ray. COBB angle 6 degrees. I know it is within measurement error, I know the x rays were on another system (Michigan versus Detroit), but I can look at them and see they are better. a = a

With special thanks to Dingo, Concerned Dad and many others... The time you have taken to document your trials and successes made it possible for us to have our 5 degree turn for the better....

[LindaRacine]

I'd be very concerned about having my child xray'd so much with such a small curve. Orthopaedic Spine MD's consider anything under 10 degrees a normal spine.

[Dingo]

Turtlelover

Yesterday we got another X ray. COBB angle 6 degrees. I know it is within measurement error, I know the x rays were on another system (Michigan versus Detroit), but I can look at them and see they are better.

THAT IS AMAZING NEWS!!!

According to the studies Torso rotation works for practically everyone and evidently your kid is no exception. You don't know how good that makes me feel. I am on cloud 9 for you!

My son is 6 so he is still too young to use the machine. Until he grows large enough we are doing torso strength training with a dumbbell as well as general strength training and stretching. His curve was 11 degrees six months ago. I just hope he holds together until he is about 8 and we can start with the machine.

Thank you so much for posting your progress. You made my month!

[Lorraine 1966]

I cannot see how such small curvatures can be diagnosed as scoliosis. I too know of Spinal specialists who consider this a normal spine. My daughter in law is one such case.

Lorraine.

[Bigbluefrog]

Please share what type of exercises this is? Dingo you said you use a dumbell?

cybrex torso ? Can you include a link with photo...I am curious

[Dingo]

Bigbluefrog

My son is only 6 so he is too young to use a torso rotation machine. When he gets older we'll buy one but until then we are doing our best.

We do a modified version of this basic exercise.
Ab Exercises - Torso Rotation w/ Medicine Ball

We use a 4 pound dumbbell (Scott weighs 40 pounds) instead of a ball. In addition we use a small, low exercise disc instead of the large round stability ball. Depending on your child's level of fitness and coordination there are several basic torso rotation exercises that can be done at home. Just google torso rotation exercise and video.

The key is to keep the hips as motionless as possible. The work needs to be done by the torso.

[Bigbluefrog]

Thanks for the link!

www.fitstep.com/Advanced/Anatomy/Back.htm

Back muscles that attach to the vertabra and support and lengthen the spine
are called :
Spinal Erectors

The Erector Spinae is a group of muscles that support the spinal column. They include the Longissimus, the Spinalis and Iliocostalis. The muscles of the Erector Spinae attach to the vertebrae, the ribs and the pelvis. The functions of the Erector Spinae group are to extend the spine as well as provide support for it.

Exercises that work the Erector Spinae include hyperextensions, deadlifts and good mornings.

[hope404]

Taking action on smaller curves is so important....sad I was told to watch my daughter's get bigger....(watch and wait)

ALL problems(including scoliosis) are easier to fix when smaller.

[Bigbluefrog]

Originally Posted by hope404

Taking action on smaller curves is so important....sad I was told to watch my daughter's get bigger....(watch and wait)

ALL problems(including scoliosis) are easier to fix when smaller.

Hope why is it that the Rx for smaller curves... is watch and wait when exercise and PT may be helpful.

We have too many different treatment options and the Orthopedic will not support PT, Spinecor, or Schroth method...why?

Because there is NO proof...not that it isn't successful for individuals
NO Scientific evidence =
means NO scientific studies published in the US.

So what we need is for these professionals to do the studies...and it can't be funded by the company making the product or selling the product.

So much bogus and crap!

[trcylynn]

Can you describe or if you know of any links that show the exercises for the erector muscles? I think I know hyperextensions- I have an idea on deadlifts but aren't sure if its correct, and have no idea what good mornings are...

Thanks!!

[Bigbluefrog]

I would not recommend good mornings, its difficult to do. We tried it and it felt wrong, maybe you would have better luck. Don't try alone.
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...arbell-254716/


We are better off doing hand held weights and superman..
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...rcises-254715/

Scoliosis exercises google and you should get a list of great exercises.