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  • #46
    Originally posted by mamamax View Post
    I thought she said she was being tested but that so far, no one had found anything?
    Here's what she wrote on her video page...

    A neurologist is currently treating me and they finally figured out why i have all those weird symptoms.
    An interesting theory yours, I've thought of that also - but how would it explain the structural presentation?
    That's not "my" theory. Anyway, theory in science doesn't mean a guess as you imply. It would be more of a hypothesis and still, it is too obvious to be any one person's hypothesis. It's like me claiming hamsters are extra cute when they cook jello...

    http://cuteoverload.com/2009/12/25/supper/

    No one person can claim that as it is too obvious.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
    Answer: Medicine


    "We are all African."

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    • #47
      Guess I walked into that one!

      I'm still wondering what Dr. Hu decided to do??

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      • #48
        Mamamax, regarding your conversation on the other forum with your other buddy, I think hysterical scoliosis is off the table w.r.t. that patient in the video. She has a neuro diagnosis.

        So I think while you find hysterical scolisois an interesting topic, it is irrelevant to that patient (and probably 99.999999999999999999% of patients).

        Also, I don't think her scoliosis can be considered structural even though it didn't straighten on bending if it is like Dr. Hu's patient where the curve completely straightened just putting the patient under. That is NOT structural.

        The patient in the video apparently has some neurological condition that makes her contort her body that way. If/when it is treated, the curve would correct itself I suspect without any "help" from Clear.
        Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

        No island of sanity.

        Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
        Answer: Medicine


        "We are all African."

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
          Mamamax, regarding your conversation on the other forum with your other buddy, I think hysterical scoliosis is off the table w.r.t. that patient in the video. She has a neuro diagnosis.

          So I think while you find hysterical scolisois an interesting topic, it is irrelevant to that patient (and probably 99.999999999999999999% of patients).

          Also, I don't think her scoliosis can be considered structural even though it didn't straighten on bending if it is like Dr. Hu's patient where the curve completely straightened just putting the patient under. That is NOT structural.

          The patient in the video apparently has some neurological condition that makes her contort her body that way. If/when it is treated, the curve would correct itself I suspect without any "help" from Clear.
          It will be interesting to see what the treating chiropractor may have to say.

          As for everything else - I don't believe ANY of us are so expert that we can make definitive statements either way. HS has been largely ignored by the medical professions .... so, there is no clear cut body of knowledge from which to draw.

          I understand Dr. Hu's patient turned out not to be a structural case (it seems) but the case certainly presented that way - and with xray validation. As for Kaylee - again, none of us is really qualified to assess her condition.

          All we can do is ponder these things.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by mamamax View Post
            It will be interesting to see what the treating chiropractor may have to say.
            I think the neurologist's opinion is what will be interesting.
            Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

            No island of sanity.

            Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
            Answer: Medicine


            "We are all African."

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            • #51
              Agreed - if the neurologist were to comment, that would be very interesting also.

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              • #52
                Why are we discussing scoliosis when we could be discussing hamsters cooking jello?

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                • #53
                  I doubt that surgeons typically look at individual vertebrae for evidence of wedging in scoliosis.
                  Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by hdugger View Post
                    Why are we discussing scoliosis when we could be discussing hamsters cooking jello?
                    Good point.
                    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

                    No island of sanity.

                    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
                    Answer: Medicine


                    "We are all African."

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by hdugger View Post
                      Why are we discussing scoliosis when we could be discussing hamsters cooking jello?
                      I couldn't find any valuable literature ......

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by LindaRacine View Post
                        I doubt that surgeons typically look at individual vertebrae for evidence of wedging in scoliosis.
                        ok, I have to ask - Why?

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                        • #57
                          Seated?

                          Please pardon this non hamster/jello post...

                          As has been pointed out a few times, the girl in the video was seated for the radiographs. My question is... why? Is that some sort of a chiro thing?

                          Also, she is wearing a shoe lift in the later shots. Maybe an extreme leg length discrepancy, in conjunction with her neuro condition, caused the functional scoliosis she has.
                          Last edited by Pooka1; 01-06-2010, 01:18 PM.
                          Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

                          No island of sanity.

                          Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
                          Answer: Medicine


                          "We are all African."

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Pooka1 View Post
                            Please pardon this non hamster/jello post...

                            As has been pointed out a few times, the girl in the video was seated for the radiographs. My question is... why? Is that some sort of a chiro thing?

                            Also, she is wearing a shoe lift in the later shots. Maybe an extreme leg length discrepancy, in conjunction with her neuro condition, caused the functional scoliosis she has.
                            :-) I don't know why there are seated xrays - I have heard of them being done before (by surgeons) but I can't remember what the circumstances were - I've never had seated xrays taken myself. Maybe someone else here will know.

                            I hope they actually measured her leg lengths before prescribing the shoe lift - otherwise it could cause more harm than good. That's what an orthopedic specialist told me many years ago anyway. From my xrays she suspected a difference in leg length, but upon measuring them found no difference.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mamamax View Post


                              I'm still wondering what Dr. Hu decided to do??
                              Decided to do about what?
                              Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
                              ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
                              Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by mamamax View Post
                                ok, I have to ask - Why?
                                It's difficult to see wedging in films, and I would assume that cases such as the one Dr. Hu mentioned are very rare. Functional scoliosis curves almost always straighten on forward bending.
                                Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
                                ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
                                Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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