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    Hardware Photos

    I am attaching pics of hardware removed on 3-25-09. They cut off about 4" of the Harrington rods and removed one screw out of T3. This gives you an idea of what exactly they use to fuse. I didn't even ask for this, Dr. Floyd just gave it to me before discharging me.
    Les
    Les, Biker Babe, age 56 (at time of first surgery)
    Fused T2 to S2, posterior only, 8 Apr 08
    T3 fracture repair and revision, Mar 09
    Broke left lower rod and pelvic screws removal, Dec 09
    Scheduled to remove all hardware, replaced everything instead due to non-fusion, Nov 10
    Remove top 2" of rods and screws, Feb 14
    Pre surgery degrees: L40, T45
    Post surgery degrees: L8, T10

    Happy, joyous and pain-free!
    Surgeon: C Timothy Floyd, MD, Boise Orthopedic Clinic

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    What can I say...WOW!
    2 60* curves, DDD, left trunk shift, some rotation, rib and lumbar humps, annular tear at L5-S1
    surgery 5/08 planning fusion T3 or T4 to sacrum with iliac fixation
    Dr. Anderson at Rothman Institute
    5/16/08 ALIF L1-L5
    5/23/08 fused T2-sacrum w/fixation and I'm all Titanium
    6/4/08 open all back up to clean out for Staph infection
    (left open with just clear dressing)
    6/6/08 recleaned and closed
    3/30/2012 revision planned, broken rod and removal of iliac bolts

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    Thanks Les. Very interesting. I can't help but think when I look at that, "No wonder it hurts!"
    Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
    Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
    T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
    Osteotomies and Laminectomies
    Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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    Holy Moly!! Very interesting.

    Why did you need to have these parts removed? I guess you were having pain?
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    Debbe - 50 yrs old

    Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
    Told by Dr. my curve would never progress

    Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
    Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
    Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees

    Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
    Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees

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    I had a fracture at T3, and was having problems in that general area - swelling, pain. It had never fused there (first surgery in Apr 08, fusion T2 thru S2) and the screw was just too big.
    Les, Biker Babe, age 56 (at time of first surgery)
    Fused T2 to S2, posterior only, 8 Apr 08
    T3 fracture repair and revision, Mar 09
    Broke left lower rod and pelvic screws removal, Dec 09
    Scheduled to remove all hardware, replaced everything instead due to non-fusion, Nov 10
    Remove top 2" of rods and screws, Feb 14
    Pre surgery degrees: L40, T45
    Post surgery degrees: L8, T10

    Happy, joyous and pain-free!
    Surgeon: C Timothy Floyd, MD, Boise Orthopedic Clinic

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    Very cool stuff, although not the pain part.

    You need to put that in a frame or something. What a conversation piece that would be!
    Surgeries July 26th & August 3rd 1983 (12 years old)
    Still have 57 degree curve
    2 Harrington rods
    Luque method used
    Dr David Bradford
    Twin Cities Scoliosis Center
    Preop xray (with brace on)
    Postop xray

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qikdraw View Post
    Very cool stuff, although not the pain part.

    You need to put that in a frame or something. What a conversation piece that would be!
    Or make a necklace or belt buckle out of it!!! ha!

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    Les

    Those look like Harley parts to me. You sure you didnt get those mixed up?

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    "those look like harley parts to me."
    lol

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    OMG!!! THAT IS INCREDIABLE!!! Thank you for sharing!!! Yeah, NO WONDER IT HURTS!!!! They put roofing screws in! hahaha You'd think you could feel them on the other side!! The hooks were bigger than I thought though...I have 3 of those!!!
    Diagnosed in '06'
    Wore TLSO brace for 18 mo.
    Upper curve 40 degrees; lower 35 degrees
    Surgery in March '08' (T6 - T11)
    Rods for 7 vertabraes; 3 fused
    Still have lumbar curve (T12 - L4) of now, 33 degrees
    I have osteoarthritis, 3 bulging discs, stenosis, fast progressing lordosis, vertebrea twisting (vertebreas almost on side) all in lumbar spine. Will most likely have another surgery to extend rods and fusion. :'(

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    hardware

    WOW, les...looks so heavy...did you loose 5 pounds just from having them removed?? wonder if they are heavier than the titanium rods..? cause the heavier they are, i would guess the more uncomfortable..? No??

    glad they fixed problem...sorry you went thru the pain....

    do you feel less "bionic" now...

    jess

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    Ti-tough
    Yes the hooks are beefy and stout. I doubt that any hooks have ever broken in the past. Now screws and rods are a different story.

    Jess
    I did some rough calculations on a T2-pelvic fusion with about 34 screws and 2 rods and I remember that it came out to approx 14ounces. Weight is not a consideration. Its in one of my posts, about 6 months ago.

    Clamps and screws are used for different reasons. The holding power of a clamp is substantial. They can bother some people, I wouldn't know as I'm totally screwed. LOL No clamps or cross members in my construct.

    My x-ray is in my first thread I have the Pangea system by Synthes
    This site goes deep, with tons of neat info
    http://us.synthes.com/Products/Spine...gea+System.htm

    Hopefully, I will never see any of MY hardware due to a revision surgery. I've had enough surgeries that my odds are nil of that happening.

    Les
    Wow, you must have had pain up very high? T3 is way up there. How long did the pain go on before they decided to go back in?

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    The removed hardware weighed 1.6 oz or or 46 g. I didn't lose any weight (I've gained, but think my thyroid is acting up as well as my eating habits), and I didn't gain any height!

    I basically had pain within three months after the first surgery (Apr 08), so Jul 08, I was complaining of pain. He removed the clamp that held both rods together in Nov 08. And I was still complaining of pain, he was "observing." I called as soon as I had that excruciating pain for two nights. For the first time after both of the surgeries I wanted to cry from the pain and go to the ER. When I told him that, he ordered CT scans, myelograms, and then scheduled the revision surgery, which was Mar 09. I think he "observed," wanting to make sure fusion was complete before going back in. I still have some discomfort, but it's usually because I've done something I shouldn't. And my body is protesting loudly. I try hard to pay attention to what my body says, I sure don't want it screaming at me!
    Last edited by lapieper; 07-08-2009 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Forgot some stuff
    Les, Biker Babe, age 56 (at time of first surgery)
    Fused T2 to S2, posterior only, 8 Apr 08
    T3 fracture repair and revision, Mar 09
    Broke left lower rod and pelvic screws removal, Dec 09
    Scheduled to remove all hardware, replaced everything instead due to non-fusion, Nov 10
    Remove top 2" of rods and screws, Feb 14
    Pre surgery degrees: L40, T45
    Post surgery degrees: L8, T10

    Happy, joyous and pain-free!
    Surgeon: C Timothy Floyd, MD, Boise Orthopedic Clinic

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    Wow, I am having a broken rod replaced with a different material (well, both rods will be replaced), and I was wondering if anyone had ever gotten their hardware afterwards! I am really hoping to get a least a piece of mine.
    25 years old
    double 70+ degree curves before surgery
    Anterior on 11/11/08
    Posterior on 12/2/08 with titanium rods
    nearly perfect correction
    fused t-10 to pelvis
    with a hemi-vertebral osteotomy at L4

    Broke right rod at L4-L5 on 06/26/09
    Broke left rod on 10/24/09
    Revision surgery on 11/5/09 with vitallium rods
    Broke both rods again

    Had posterior than anterior revisions on 03/11 at the Twin Cities Spine Center
    Declared "FUSED" on 12/6/11

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