Setting the Record Straight

[Pooka1]

Pooka - I'm not going to address the off-topic topics at this point because - they are verging away from the topic.

Surgeons potentially being misquoted IS the topic as far as I can tell.

[mamamax]

Again, the topic is

Doctor/Patient Confidentiality

Why do you not wish to comment on this?

[Pooka1]

I think I did comment on that.

Cold calling a surgeon you don't know for the purpose of vetting a quote is over the line.

Asking a friend if they said something attributed to them on a public forum without mentioning who claimed they said it is fine IMHO.

[Pooka1]

Look, you can ask a surgeon if they said something without getting into doctor/patient confidentially. Do you really disagree with that?

[mamamax]

Doctor/Patient Confidentiality

Pooka -

Cold calling is not the issue.

I was directly asked to provide the name of my specialist so that a representative of the National Scoliosis Foundation could have a conversation with him regarding information shared between me and my specialist in the course of my personal treatment.

My orthopedic specialist does not need to receive phone calls from Linda regarding the value of a reference he and I discussed in the course of my treatment without my permission. She can have that conversation with any orthopedic specialist.

I do not desire/require to include Linda as someone who is part of my personal treatment program by way of her communication with my doctor - regarding a personal conversation that he and i had ... and said conversation is indeed a part of my confidential treatment.

As CD said previously - he sure would not want his specialist called regarding topics batted around in this forum - neither would I, and many others.

CD actually answers your comments better than I Pooka - Please see his Post 164 ... i think you have not read it yet.

[LindaRacine]

Pooka - I do not think surgeons are idiots - that is truly the grandest reckless assumption on your part.

The Issue is Doctor/Patient Confidentiality


Doctor/Patient conversations in the course of treatment are confidential. If said patient wishes to share such with others that is fine. However - contacting a person's physician to discuss their confidential treatment (and their conversations in the course of treatment are considered part of treatment) .. without permission - is not ok. In fact, there are laws against it.

My orthopedic specialist does not need to receive phone calls from Linda regarding the value of a reference he and I discussed in the course of my treatment (nor do i desire/require her as someone included in my personal treatment program by way of her communication with my doctor.

Obviously you have not had this happen to you - or you, like those of us who have - would feel the same way.

You're ignoring this - does not make it go away.

Maxene...

You are quoting your doctor in a public forum, so using your faulty logic, I think you're the one violating the policy. ;-)

--Linda

[mamamax]

Linda ~

What Logic are you talking about Linda?

There are no laws preventing me from sharing an agreement on a topic.

My logic is this - you do not have my permission to call my doctor about any part of my treatment - including our said conversation in the course of my treatment.

I hope that is clear.

[LindaRacine]

Let's say that the comment in question was something potentially harmful. Mamamax states "my specialist told me it's safe to smoke as soon as I'm home from the hospital after my spinal fusion surgery." And, let's say that Mamamax won't back down from that claim. Now, people are starting to smoke because Mamamax said that she had it from a well respected scoliosis specialist.

Let's say that Mamamax had mentioned who her specialist is, and it just so happened that it's the guy that CD takes his kid to.

CD, when you next saw that specialist, would you ask him to comment on the subject?

--Linda

[LindaRacine]

Linda ~

What Logic are you talking about Linda?

There are no laws preventing me from sharing an agreement on a topic.

My logic is this - you do not have my permission to call my doctor about any part of my treatment - including our said conversation in the course of my treatment.

I hope that is clear.

Mamamax...

How can something be confidential when you're the one posting it in a public forum? And, since you won't post the name of the person who gave you the information, there's absolutely no chance that I'll ever be able to verify it.

--Linda

[mamamax]

Let's say that the comment in question was something potentially harmful. Mamamax states "my specialist told me it's safe to smoke as soon as I'm home from the hospital after my spinal fusion surgery." And, let's say that Mamamax won't back down from that claim. Now, people are starting to smoke because Mamamax said that she had it from a well respected scoliosis specialist.

Let's say that Mamamax had mentioned who her specialist is, and it just so happened that it's the guy that CD takes his kid to.

CD, when you next saw that specialist, would you ask him to comment on the subject?

--Linda

That is not the situation we are discussing.

but for sake of discussion - and let's take mamamax out of it while we are at it ...

I agree if member x states that dr x states that ice cream cures scoliosis - that would warrant a phone call in the interest of two things:

1 - finding out if ice cream cures scoliosis

2 - Sharing the fact that it does not

This however, is not the kind of situation we are discussing.

The issue is this: you do not have my permission to call my doctor about any part of my treatment - including our said conversation in the course of my treatment - which many members here recognize as a phone call that is not warranted in this situation.

I hope this is clear.

[mamamax]

Mamamax...

How can something be confidential when you're the one posting it in a public forum? And, since you won't post the name of the person who gave you the information, there's absolutely no chance that I'll ever be able to verify it.

--Linda

CD actually answers this comment better than I ever could Linda - Please see his Post 164 ... i think you have not read it yet.

I think actually - this forum needs/requires a second moderator for the non surgical forum.

CD would make a great one.

Write your Congressman folks!

[Qikdraw]

Can we lock this thread please? Its denegrated to petty bickering even more. This does not help those seeking help on issues regarding surgery or alternative methods.

Can't we all just get along?

[mamamax]

Think anyone actually posting to this thread should begin with reading post #1

Can't we all just get along?

Good question handed down throughout the ages.

The need for an un-biased moderator in the non surgical forum who operates within the spirit of NSF forum - as outlined several places ...

remains.

[Pooka1]

Can we lock this thread please? Its denegrated to petty bickering even more. This does not help those seeking help on issues regarding surgery or alternative methods.

Can't we all just get along?

I agree this thread is long past the point of productivity though I disagree with locking it. Too heavy-handed.

[mamamax]

I agree this thread is long past the point of productivity though I disagree with locking it. Too heavy-handed.

I also disagree with locking it.