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    scoliosis with 67 degrees

    Hi
    I am 24yrs old. I just met an orthopedic and he confirmed i have scoliosis with 67 degrees
    actually he compared my childhood x-rays and the recent x-rays and said that actually he didnt see much progress in the curve - meaning i am having 65 degrees curves since birth.
    he asked me to meet a physio therapist and asked to practise some exercises.
    according to him surgery is not necessary as my structure is fully grown.

    anyone any suggestions on this is greatly appreciated.
    i dont know if i need a surgery or .......

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    Hi...

    First, you might want to post to the area for adults (you've posted to the Adolescent & Teen forum).

    I always recommend that everyone get at least two opinions from doctors who specialize in scoliosis. You can find a list of specialists here:

    http://www.srs.org/find/

    Regards,
    Linda

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    hi linda
    thanks for your advice. i tried the link you gave but unfortunately it says no physician found for my search.( i tried to pick adult scoliosis in maryland area).
    If you know any doctor in maryland area would be really good.
    regarding posting in an adoloscent thread, how can I move my post to adult scoliosis thread.

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    SRS docs in Maryland

    Hi there,

    Try again on your SRS search--I tried for Maryland and found 15 specialists listed for adult scoliosis.

    Good luck!
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    If he is in your insurance network, you might want to check out Dr. Lauerman at Georgetown in DC.

    We are in PA and he will be following my dd's case.

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    thanks guys for your suggestions and support. I will surely again try in SRS for the doctors around our place.

    Can you tell me how is Dr. Lauerman at Georgetown in DC.

    I am actually really scared. I want to approach a doctor if his reviews are really good.

    Thanks for all the love and support

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    Maryland area provider

    Quote Originally Posted by scoliotensed View Post
    hi linda
    thanks for your advice. i tried the link you gave but unfortunately it says no physician found for my search.( i tried to pick adult scoliosis in maryland area).
    If you know any doctor in maryland area would be really good.
    regarding posting in an adoloscent thread, how can I move my post to adult scoliosis thread.
    Hi - you may want to check out this provider who can assist with information about doctors in your area as well as Schroth which is mentioned in some places in your post: http://www.scoliosissolutions.org/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoliotensed View Post
    Hi
    I am 24yrs old. I just met an orthopedic and he confirmed i have scoliosis with 67 degrees
    actually he compared my childhood x-rays and the recent x-rays and said that actually he didnt see much progress in the curve - meaning i am having 65 degrees curves since birth.
    he asked me to meet a physio therapist and asked to practise some exercises.
    according to him surgery is not necessary as my structure is fully grown.

    anyone any suggestions on this is greatly appreciated.
    i dont know if i need a surgery or .......
    i suggest you take a look at the Scoliosis SOS website.
    www.scoliosissos.com
    i went to SOS 2 years ago with a curve of 56.
    it then went down to 49-52. (:
    if you want more details just ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essi View Post
    i suggest you take a look at the Scoliosis SOS website.
    www.scoliosissos.com
    i went to SOS 2 years ago with a curve of 56.
    it then went down to 49-52. (:
    if you want more details just ask
    This, in the SOS FAQ pretty much summed it up for me ...

    Question: "What is the difference between the ScolioGold treatment offered by Scoliosis SOS and the Schroth method used on the continent? "

    Answer: "The difference is the quality of our results. At Scoliosis SOS our results are second to none. ScolioGold is a hybrid of the best non-surgical treatments for spinal curvatures and originated from the Schroth method.

    Many people (health professionals and patients) have commented on how our results, at Scoliosis SOS, are so much better than the Asklepios Katharina Schroth Klinik’s results. This is partly due to our high therapist to patient ratio i.e. our class sizes are smaller; 6 or 7 patients to each therapist compared to the 20 patients per therapist they have in Germany.
    We have also had English patients who went to Germany several years ago, before Scoliosis SOS opened in the UK, but who have now come to us for follow-up treatment and they have all commented that the treatment given at Scoliosis SOS is of a much higher standard. "


    Schroth (nor ScoliGold) demonstrates any "quality of results". One has merely existed longer than the other ... and neither is proven to reduce a curve.

    I really had to laugh at this snake oil hawker bashing another one with "Many people (health professionals and patients) have commented on how our results, at Scoliosis SOS, are so much better than the Asklepios Katharina Schroth Klinik’s results."

    Define "many" and the credentials of the "health professionals".

    At best, PT, exercise, etc. - or any program that makes wild claims while taking your hard earned money - MAY help reduce pain. NONE of them will CURE a curvature.

    BTW, Essi, your curve "correction" is well within the margin of error. Why was your Cobb 56° (absolute) at initial measurement, and now it's ±49-52°? 56° vs. 52° means nothing, and a hard Cobb of 56° compared to a range of 49° to 52° means even less. They're simply playing a numbers game with you, and I hope you don't fall for it.

    At the very least, if you had pain, I hope it has helped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txmarinemom View Post
    BTW, Essi, your curve "correction" is well within the margin of error. Why was your Cobb 56° (absolute) at initial measurement, and now it's ±49-52°? 56° vs. 52° means nothing, and a hard Cobb of 56° compared to a range of 49° to 52° means even less. They're simply playing a numbers game with you, and I hope you don't fall for it.
    If a chiro measured it and didn't take it out to at least 4 decimal places, I can't have confidence in the measurement. Digital protractors canNOT be beat!
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    I wasn't saying it can cure a curve, and i'm not saying that it has cured mine. My cob angle before was anywhere from 54-58 (56) and then the next time i got x-rays, it was 49 (47-51). This is what my surgeon told me. (it got a bit worse later with it getting to 52 (50-54).
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    The cob angle doesn't mean anything to me, I measure my back on my quality of life, and SOS has definitely changed my quility of life. I'm pretty much pain free and stand tall, so i'm completely satisfied. (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essi View Post
    I wasn't saying it can cure a curve, and i'm not saying that it has cured mine. My cob angle before was anywhere from 54-58 (56) and then the next time i got x-rays, it was 49 (47-51). This is what my surgeon told me. (it got a bit worse later with it getting to 52 (50-54).
    +
    The cob angle doesn't mean anything to me, I measure my back on my quality of life, and SOS has definitely changed my quility of life. I'm pretty much pain free and stand tall, so i'm completely satisfied. (:

    Interesting ...

    That's great you feel your quality of life has improved, but there's very little science to back it up.

    You take your pre-treatment 54-58° measurement as a median/centerpoint (I have no idea how many times each number occurred) of 56°: It could mean ±5° on EITHER side. You could have been as little as 49°; as high as 63°.

    Same for your "post-treatment" measurement: You now say you increased to 50°-54° (you didn't in your first post ... you chose the best numbers).

    Again, the median of 52° is inaccurate. You can say you COULD have been 45° at the least, and 59° at the worst.

    Margin of error is at LEAST ±5° (maybe ±10°) ... and, BTW, it's "Cobb" (not cob). I really worry about this kind of information. If it works for you, great ... but you really don't seem to know the details of how things are measured.

    Again ... if it makes you feel better, go for it. I'd ask you do some self study, however, on the details; make SOS explain their measurements compared to SRS standards.

    Regards,
    Pam
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoliotensed View Post
    Hi
    I am 24yrs old. I just met an orthopedic and he confirmed i have scoliosis with 67 degrees
    actually he compared my childhood x-rays and the recent x-rays and said that actually he didnt see much progress in the curve - meaning i am having 65 degrees curves since birth.
    he asked me to meet a physio therapist and asked to practise some exercises.
    according to him surgery is not necessary as my structure is fully grown.

    anyone any suggestions on this is greatly appreciated.
    i dont know if i need a surgery or .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoliotensed View Post
    Hi
    I am 24yrs old. I just met an orthopedic and he confirmed i have scoliosis with 67 degrees
    actually he compared my childhood x-rays and the recent x-rays and said that actually he didnt see much progress in the curve - meaning i am having 65 degrees curves since birth.
    he asked me to meet a physio therapist and asked to practise some exercises.
    according to him surgery is not necessary as my structure is fully grown.

    anyone any suggestions on this is greatly appreciated.
    i dont know if i need a surgery or .......

    u need physio therapy and to see foot consukltant to do with foot alignment they can can advise to weather they can do anymore i am waiting for hospital shoes to align my fett i am fully grown but there r treatments through foot consultantys can i suggest u go gp and ask to sdee foot consultant for foot aligment

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    58 curve

    My daughter has a curve of 58 and doctors have beene after us to do surgery for a while. she is 17. My daughter has something called Dysautonomia and postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. We have been putting off surgery because it can worsen her other condition. Has anyone ever heard of this illness? Many kids have scoliosis along with it. I agree that getting more than one opinion is very important.

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