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    OK so I am in college, a sophomore, and in my organismal biology class (about 40 students) there is a girl that often sits near me that obviously has scoliosis. I'm guessing by the very prominance of her rib hump that it's at least 70-80 degrees. I was surprised one day to see that she had a scar the full length of her back too because it looks as though she hasn't had her scoliosis corrected. Nevertheless, I am having surgery this summer for my scoliosis, and althought it is apparantly not as severe as hers, I am DYING to ask her about her experience with it. I just feel like it would be completely out of the blue and come off as rude, like... "oh, I saw that you have scoliosis, so what's going on with that?!" lol, obviously I wouldn't say it like that, it's just that I don't really talk much in that class and I don't want to be prying into her business. Would it be innappropriate to some time ask her quietly, "hey, I'm having surgery this summer for my scoliosis and was just wondering..." I don't even know how it would be not rude to ask her. Should I just not say anything? UGH! I just want to know! I wouldn't be offended if someone asked me but I feel like I would be prying into her privacy. any input or advice?
    aBbiE
    22 yr old F,KU college student
    Kyphoscoliosis...
    Scoliosis (25T, 23L) diagnosed @ 14 yrs old; curves June 08 were 45T, 32L with 18 degree rotation
    Kyphosis of 65 degrees...
    I am missing a lumbar vertebrae

    Surgery 6/30/2008 with Dr. Lawrence Lenke
    Fused T2-L2


    before/after pics
    all smiles!

  • #2
    A girl I know who had scoliosis surgery said to me, "You have scoliosis don't you?" I replied yes and she said she could tell. She wasn't rude about it but it made me feel very self conscious. Asking the girl in your class may make her feel the same way. I would maybe talk about the surgery to someone nearby in the hopes that she would be listening and maybe she would chime in. Maybe that's kind of cowardly but that way you wouldn't have to ask
    Chemist, 30

    1998- 18 degrees
    2003- 33 degrees
    2005- 37 degrees
    2006- 44 degrees
    May 2007- 47 degrees
    December 2007 - 50 degrees X-ray

    Surgery May 27, 2008
    Fused T1 to L2
    Curve corrected to 15 degrees X-ray

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    • #3
      I'd say do it.

      Go for it!! There is really no reason not to. Worst case scenario- she thinks you are some special breed of crazy, and doesn't talk to you ever again.

      That doesn't seem like a big risk, since it doesn't sound like you've ever talked to her before. I really don't see that happening, I'd even venture to guess that she was once where you are now, and would be more than happy to discuss it with you.

      I can tell you that more than likely, she had a stabilization done ~5+ years ago, and in that case they were more concerned about keeping it from progressing than straightening it out. The harrington rod procedure usually got minimal corrections of 40-50% if the patient was young, and less than that in older teens and adults. In that case, she would still show cosmetic deformities. I was supposed to have harrington rods put in back in 2001, I was 15 and they were estimating that my 55 degree curves would be reduced to 30-35. I just had the newer procedure done, and my two 65+ degree curves are now both about 15 degrees.

      I hope you get up the nerve to ask her, you'll probably get a friend out of it!

      Rosie
      2001 T-sp 58* L-sp 55*
      2007 T-sp 64* L-sp 67*
      Surgery Dec. 21 2007
      Posterior fusion T3 to L3

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      • #4
        Before my surgery, I used to see an older lady in the supermarket all the time who had very pronounced scoliosis with one hip way up higher than the other one. She would lean on the shopping cart like she was in pain. I used to stare at her because I imagined that's what I would look like if I hadn't had my surgery. I was dying to say something to her but could never think of a tactful or sensitive way to do it.

        If someone had asked me about my own deformity, which I took great pains to hide, BEFORE my surgery, I think I would have been flustered. But now, with my great figure, if someone wants to ask about my scars, that's fine with me.

        The fact that this young woman's scar has been visible tells me she might not be too self-conscious about it and might not mind a friendly question or two. As in: "I hope you don't think I'm completely rude, but I noticed your scar and I'm about to get my own scar this summer......"
        Chris
        A/P fusion on June 19, 2007 at age 52; T10-L5
        Pre-op thoracolumbar curve: 70 degrees
        Post-op curve: 12 degrees
        Dr. Boachie-adjei, HSS, New York

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        • #5
          I agree with Singer-- that would be a good way to bring up the subject; mentioning the scar rather than the deformity. People can be so sensitive... but if you were able to see her scar, then she can't be too sensitive about that, I would guess. You could even say something like "I have scoliosis and will be having surgery this summer. I noticed the scar on your back when..... and wondered if that could be a battle wound from a similar surgery." Good luck!
          71 and plugging along... but having some problems
          2007 52° w/ severe lumbar stenosis & L2L3 lateral listhesis (side shift)
          5/4/07 posterior fusion T2-L4 w/ laminectomies and osteotomies @L2L3, L3L4
          Dr. Kim Hammerberg, Rush Univ. Medical Center in Chicago

          Corrected to 15°
          CMT (type 2) DX in 2014, progressing
          10/2018 x-rays - spondylolisthesis at L4/L5 - Dr. DeWald is monitoring

          Click to view my pics: pics of scoli x-rays digital x-rays, and pics of me

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          • #6
            I don't believe you have to point out the scar or the hump. Just say hello and tell her you hope she doesn't think you are rude but you are having surgery for scoliosis this summer and would she mind you asking a couple of questions. That way you let her know you don't want to be rude but are just asking for advice. It will be fine if approached in the right manner. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
            Carol
            CarolS
            68 degree right lumbar scoliosis, mild kyphosis at L1-2
            Anterior/Posterior Correction, T8 to Sacrum, Sept 20th, 2007
            Osteotomy March 20,2008
            Thrilled with results!

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            • #7
              I noticed a woman with a scar on the front of her neck once and asked if she had a spinal fusion and she said yes, how did you know. I pulled down my turtle neck and showed her I have the same scar. We discussed the surgery we each had and she did not seem to mind.
              Patty 51 years old
              Surgery May 23, 2007(43 Birthday)
              Posterior T3- L4
              Pre surgery curves
              T-53degrees
              L-38degrees
              and a severe side shift to the right.
              Post surgery curves
              Less than 10 degrees
              Surgery April, 2006
              C4 - C6

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              • #8
                Bless your heart!

                Very sweet and considerate of you to be so considerate. The other folks gave you lots of good advice! My 2 cents worth is if you want to bring up the subject do it one on one. If approached the right way she would probably even appreciate the contact and both of you will end up with an ally in the scoli battle! Two heads are better than one!
                Good Luck,
                Chris

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                • #9
                  Another approach would be talk about your own operation/scoliosis and don't mention it to her--unless she starts talking about it. You could ask her to "wish me luck" regarding your upcoming surgery and go from there.

                  A difficult scenario for her would be having had a major surgery resulting in a poor correction and then having people noticing the poor result. This happened with my first surgeries (done in 1956) which left me with a big rib hump. A person told me it looked "terrible" and "couldn't it be fixed?".
                  Last edited by Karen Ocker; 04-06-2008, 05:42 PM.
                  Original scoliosis surgery 1956 T-4 to L-2 ~100 degree thoracic (triple)curves at age 14. NO hardware-lost correction.
                  Anterior/posterior revision T-4 to Sacrum in 2002, age 60, by Dr. Boachie-Adjei @Hospital for Special Surgery, NY = 50% correction

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                  • #10
                    Hmmm tough one. I am VERY VERY self conscious abotu my scoliosis. Someone once asked me what was wrong with my posture and I bawled and spent the better portion of the weekend being very depressed.
                    28 years old. Dx at age 14.

                    1994 20T/20L
                    1998 22T/20L
                    2002 30T/28L
                    2006 34T/28L
                    2008 43T/34L

                    considering surgery in the near future as the curvature is getting progressively worse and for pain management.

                    XRAYS and pics at 28 years old. http://www.freewebs.com/skiergirl24/apps/photos/

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                    • #11
                      I remember when my curve became noticable and how self-conscious I was. What I didn't know was that was a perfectly normal way to feel about my scolio. I'd be self-conscious, then I'd feel bad for being self-conscious which would make me more self-conscious and it became a vicious cycle. But at some point, it stopped being such an issue for me. Once my daughter's friend asked me what was wrong with my back so I told her. She had this confused look on her face while I was explaining it to her, in 9 year old terms, so I asked if she wanted to see my back. She said sure and her reaction really caught me off guard. Instead of saying "Gross!" she said "Cool!" Not what I expected. From that point on I've tried to take advantage of as many opportunities to educate people on scoliosis as I can. I think knowledge may be the key to acceptance.
                      Becky, 46 years old
                      Diagnosed at 13 with mild scoliosis
                      Ignored until 448/07
                      Left thoracic 49* T5-T11
                      Right thorocolumbar 60* T11-L4
                      Surgery Monday, June 9, 2008 Oklahoma Spine Hospital
                      Fused T-10 to L-5
                      14 titanium pedicle screws
                      Corrected to approx. 10* YEA!!!
                      Email

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                      • #12
                        I guess it depends where they're at with it. Everybody swore they couldn't tell I had scoliosis... then when I had it corrected they could really tell the difference! I wouldn't mind being approached, and neither would a lot of people here... but some would. I say go for it, she may be feeling really isolated because of her scoliosis (in terms of her experiences with it, even with friends etc..) and may be glad to know that there is someone else around with it. New friend?! Just think of a tactful way of bringing it up and make sure you tell her about your situation.
                        1994 curve at age 13, 70 degrees, untreated
                        2000 Anterior fusion with instrumentation T9-L2, corrected to 36 degrees, 14 degree angle between fused and un-fused thoracic spine.
                        2007 26 degrees junctional scoliosis
                        Revision surgery, 6th December 2007 T4 to L3, Posterior approach.
                        msandham.blogspot.com

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                        • #13
                          My son has scoliosis and someone at work appears to have it as well. I keep trying to decide if I could ever bring up the subject with her, but I don't know her at all except to nod in passing. There is also someone who takes the same commuter train home and I would love to talk to him as he has a pronounced forward bend, but same thing-how do I broach the subject?

                          Do you think maybe your classmate is sitting in lecture looking at your back and wondering how she can bring up the subject with you (assuming from your profile that your back would be somewhat unusual as well)? How would you like her to approach you? What wording could she use to ask you questions that wouldn't upset you but would open up the topic for discussion?

                          For me, it may be more awkward since I do not have scoliosis and might seem to be prying into personal space when I first make a comment or ask a question.
                          Sitting in silence for now....
                          flowergardenj

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                          • #14
                            There are so many different ways on how people could react (just based on looking at your responses), and I don't think I can predict if I'm going to offend the girl or not, no matter how I approach it. I wouldn't point out her deformity, i think I would just flat out say that I'm having surgery for my scoliosis in June and was just wondering if she's had any experiences with it. I think I'm going to remain silent for now as well though. Personally I think that my deformity is very noticeable but a lot of my friends have told me that they didn't notice until I pointed it out. they may just be being nice though, who knows... anyways, I am not really self conscience about how I look, I just don't think it's anything cute, lol. Personally I would not be offended if someone said that they noticed my back and wanted to ask me about it, I'm actually really excited to talk to people about it. I know that that is not how everyone feels though.
                            aBbiE
                            22 yr old F,KU college student
                            Kyphoscoliosis...
                            Scoliosis (25T, 23L) diagnosed @ 14 yrs old; curves June 08 were 45T, 32L with 18 degree rotation
                            Kyphosis of 65 degrees...
                            I am missing a lumbar vertebrae

                            Surgery 6/30/2008 with Dr. Lawrence Lenke
                            Fused T2-L2


                            before/after pics
                            all smiles!

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                            • #15
                              Our Scars Have Stories

                              I agree with many of the same comments as well as your concern for the young lady's feelings. I have scars down the full length of my back and a few years ago I went to the beach and had on a bathing suit with my whole back out and I could often feel people looking at me, but I was proud to show my scars, it was part of my life and they each have quite a story to tell, but also know that it's great to get further insight from someone that's actually gone through the same procedure, so maybe your idea of letting her know you are going to have surgery will open the lines of communication and get you some great info and who knows maybe a new friend.

                              LJ

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