Pre-op appt. - some good news

[Pooka1]

Was your paper about horses?

No. My horse was the victim of incorrect farriery. The long toes left on the hinds resulted in inefficient break-over such that he was developing back pain.

We fixed the toes, the break-over improved, and now he has no back pain.

He is coming through rehab and is back on track. It's hard to find good farriers.

sharon

[Pooka1]

I remember in the last thread you mistakenly quoted Maria, saying that you had already told her who the dr was, when you had not - she did not get angry at you, yet you cannot let go of Pam's misread and keep bringing it up all the time, even after she apologized.

I did not use quote marks implying it was a direct quote. And the quote Pam made up was entirely designed at making me look like an idiot.

That is entirely different from misremembering who I sent a PM to... no idiocy was implied in that. It was an innocent error in contrast.

sharon

[Pooka1]

You know Sharon, Pam is here trying to help people prepare for a surgery which she knows about first hand - why are you here? Just to argue with anyone who shares an opinion or advice that isn't what you want to hear. Is this why you only got 1 opinion before major surgery for your daughter? Liked that one, so why listen to anything else?

Okay I've now gone through my PMs and count four people who named Pam directly or alluded to her behavior and hoped I didn't get too exasperated with her. Some mentioned Pam's history of this bad behavior. There were another three or so who did not mention her in any regard. Data always.

Are all those people misreading Pam also? Just curious.

I stated how many opinions I got and it was more than one. Moreover, I'll also repeat that the idea of lay people deciding between one or another doctor beyond the credentials, areas of specialty, board certifications, number of surgeries, etc. is questionable to say the least. I'm sure there are examples of folks who run away screaming from some doctors who others just think are the best surgeons on the planet. Can you really doubt that?

Last, I haven't argued with anyone else and I have most certainly appreciated every else's advice. I'll stand on my record on both counts.

Maybe those four folks and I are all crazy. Who knows?

sharon

[terri watkins]

say no to fruitcake....

I say no to fruitcakes, I say no to pshycos, I say no to anyone that cuts down anyone that has been through this traumatic surgical intervention and are still willing to offer their advice on the matter ...Some people don't need support from a forum, they need a pshycological evaluation and some serious meds ( yes you pooka sharon or bot whatever you are). AND THIS FORUM NEEDS AN IGNORE BUTTON... do we have ignore buttons? I will now return to gaining support and advice reading from afar... oh yeah and I even say no to horses. You are a idiot. I will be so glad when your daughters surgery is over I hope it is soon and that she does well so you will get the heck out of here and allow others to focus and use this forum for which it was intended.

[Pooka1]

AND THIS FORUM NEEDS AN IGNORE BUTTON... do we have ignore buttons?

If this forum had a way to killfile certain posters we wouldn't be talking about this now or ever. And you wouldn't have found it necessary to get upset because I would have quietly killfiled her a long time ago.

I may never get used to forums because of this.

[terri watkins]

you

You would argue with a freakin wall woman... what is your problem ... who cares what your problem is ... just shut up for awhile...you are offensive and stupid and I am at your level right now for even responding but I don't give a crap. I am sick of having to see your dumb posts arguing and occupying valuable space.. YOU GET LOST

[txmarinemom]

I did not use quote marks implying it was a direct quote. And the quote Pam made up was entirely designed at making me look like an idiot.

sharon

I'm not even *touching* that.

And, Sharon? FYI (psssst)... anyone who deals with legal contracts knows inter alia. We all know how educated you are, dear. You've made a point to stress it SEVERAL times.

That's not the point of this board, nor is the introduction of topics you've not yet experienced simply to argue answers that don't agree with what you think you know. It all comes to us in time, and I've honestly tried to help.

Speaking of education ... in my studies, I don't recall "Large Red Letters 101" or "Employ Kindergarten Phrases (in Adult Conversations) for Fun and Profit" ...

It's truly regrettable you had to drop the class after that first lesson, apparently titled(?) "Go Away". ...

[terri watkins]

Here

go ahead take the rest of this space below me and argue with yourself for awhile I'm gonna go elsewhere

[Pooka1]

You would argue with a freakin wall woman... what is your problem ... who cares what your problem is ... just shut up for awhile...you are offensive and stupid and I am at your level right now for even responding but I don't give a crap. I am sick of having to see your dumb posts arguing and occupying valuable space.. YOU GET LOST

I take it someone is twisting your arm and making you read my posts? It must be hell.

sharon

ps. I agree horses are completely off topic but I was asked a direct question.

[mariaf]

I take it someone is twisting your arm and making you read my posts? It must be hell.

sharon

Sharon,

On another thread I suggested that if Pam's posts upset you so much that perhaps you should not read them and you seemed to get very upset with me for that. At least I asked you nicely though and I can hold my head high around here.

It seems you just enjoy being nasty. I wonder why? Aren't you embarrassed when you go back and read how your posts sound?

[Pooka1]

Sharon,

On another thread I suggested that if Pam's posts upset you so much that perhaps you should not read them and you seemed to get very upset with me for that. At least I asked you nicely though and I can hold my head high around here.

If you'll notice, I stopped responding to her for a while until she posted the bogus quote. Then I admit all hell broke loose. I am still angry about that type of reckless behavior. I am still angry at her constant implications that I am an incompetent parent. (Why yes, Pam, I ran out and got an adult ankle specialist who has done no other type of surgery for my child with AIS. Geez.) Then I felt I had to respond.

It seems you just enjoy being nasty. I wonder why? Aren't you embarrassed when you go back and read how your posts sound?

This is actually not the first forum on which I have participated. On another one, on another topic, there is/was another person who was similar to Pam in many ways. There, the moderators pull the entire thread when it gets nasty. Two threads have been pulled so far because of exchanges between her and me. She stopped posted after each pulled thread, likely because she got a warning and possibly a temporary ban after the second time. She doesn't post there any more as far as I can tell. I have ZERO warnings and ZERO bannings for responses similar to, or much more pointed than, what I have posted here. Imagine that.

There's a data point.

Maybe you don't realize I am not alone in my reaction to Pam. Or maybe you don't care. I wouldn't blame you if you didn't care. But you shouldn't post things assuming it isn't the case like you have done here.

I post here because there are several other parents who are going through this with their children. They have orthopods and surgeons who say various things. I want to hear about that. I post what my orthopod and surgeon say. I want to see data rich posts. I don't want to see nonsense like radiologists can't measure Cobb angles, only orthopods can, another Pam "gem."

What I don't want to see is claims that if a surgeon deviates of what one surgeon in Houston does, they are incorrect. I also don't want to see misquoting as sport.

Enough posts have been taken up by this nonsense.

sharon

[Snoopy]

Okay, ENOUGH ALREADY! I've been coming to this forum for several years and have never experienced anything like this! I am sick of all the childish behavior!

Pam,
I am one of those 4 people who sent Sharon a pm about you. I originally told her I wouldn't reply to her posts when you were replying. But because I felt I had helpful information to share, I did and have continued to do so. I mean no offense to you. I have learned a lot from you and I truly hope you don't go away. Again, I mean no offense to you but some times the way you word things makes them sound mean.

Terri,
Wow, you've posted what, maybe 6 times and that makes you an expert on Sharon? Again, no offense, but Sharon doesn't need another person attaching her.

Sharon,
I'm sorry you are having such a hard time on this forum. I've always found this forum very helpful and have made some great friends on here. I spent the day with one of them this past weekend and the first thing she said to me was "what's up with the forum?" It doesn't have to be this way!!!! I understand why some people react to your posts the way they do--it sometimes seems like you are withholding information or just not willing to share. You've explained why you won't say the doctor's name on the forum for fear of what people will say. That's your right.

To a few others,
Why are you fueling the fire? I understand defending a friend--what kind of a friend would you be if you didn't--but some of you are very new to the forum and don't truly understand everything that's taken place.

I'm sure I'm not the only person feeling this way. Maybe others just don't want to say anything because of the responses I'll be getting. At this point I don't care, i just want this forum back to what it is supposed to be....a place to come for information, friendship and support.

I'll step down now without checking my spelling, grammar and editing, so please don't correct me on any of that. Sharon and Pam, can you two possibly agree to disagree and NOT respond to any thread that the other one starts? The down side to doing so would be that you'd miss out on very useful information, but I guess you'll just have to accept that.

Mary Lou

[Pooka1]

Mary Lou,

You are a brave woman. Braver than I.

Thank you.

I will do as you suggest.

Best regards,
sharon

[terri watkins]

why I don't post often

Yes I have only a few posts ... because when I did try to post in the past AKA POOKA WAS A BUTTHOLE ... always jumping in with crap and not allowing anyone to focus on the topics and questions asked....I do read everything I can on here daily to gain all the knowledge I can but I have learned nothing from Sharon aka pooka except that she already knows everything and that it's all black and white and that she is foolish

[Susie*Bee]

Mary Lou-- Thank you. I've had company Easter weekend, and it's taken forever to read up on what I missed on the forum-- and it has left me feeling so stressed out just now. You summed up my own thoughts so well.

Sharon-- I'll be praying for S tomorrow. Please let us know how the surgery goes when you get a chance "after"...

Everyone else-- you know that I think of you as family. I try to check for birthdays, keep tabs on surgeries, etc., and I really care about you all. It hurts like **** to see all this fighting. And sometimes I think of all the non-members who log on and read our posts-- and wonder if we are truly doing damage.

I prefer to think of "Aunty Del" and her request for a group hug...

Ooops-- daughter and her husband just drove up, so I've gotta go. Hugs to all...