Chiro will it help ?

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
See, I told you, you don't know what we are doing here. I never said I have a dislike for chiropractors. Because I do use them. However, I don't let my children go to them for scolioisis/kyphosis treatment. We use them as part of our sports medicine, since we have a very athletic family. As a matter of fact, I have taken one of my kids to the chiropractor everyday for the last two weeks, just to get her neck healed up from a basketball injury and get her back to practice and playing ball again. This chiropractor agrees that with scoliosis/kyphosis, that they need to deal with pediatric orthopedic doctors. GET THE PICTURE. GO AWAY AND USE YOUR WEBPAGE FOR ADVERTISEMENT.

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
You are such a waste of people's time. You beat around the bush.

You are a very disgusting advertising ploy. Go crawl back in your cereal box.

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
If you are not soliciting business, then why are you offering a complimentary consultation. That sounds like solicitation to me. Hmmmm...., Yeah, I am positive it is.

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
This must mean that you do all of their treatment for free. I guess then that's not solicitation, as long as you don't charge one dime for any services at all.

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
The biggest problem is the way you went about your posting. You posted way to many times. It was absolutely rediculous. You only needed to post once, but ten time on Christmas Night. Oh my gosh, you must of been bored.

[nikyergen]

Yeah, I do work for free. I do volunteer work.

[LindaRacine]

If you really want to help people, I'd encourage you to publicly offer a money back guarantee if you can't improve curves by at least 50%.

In a PM, Northlandmed tells me that her assistant got a 14 degree improvement after just 155 treatments. So, since the investment would obviously be huge, it seems to me that it would be fair to offer the guarantee.

--Linda

[nikyergen]

Linda,
THank you. That's what she isn't telling people. The number of treatments it takes, probably end up costing some money, and the results its gets for the money. Multiply that number of visits by what it costs per treatment. That could get costly.

[flowerpower]

Hey, I will say up front that I'm not a doctor with a medical degree just a regular person who has dealt with scoliosis in my own life as well as just bringing my son home last night after having posterior spinal fusion earlier this week. Surgery was absolutely my last, and, after extensive research (and reflection upon my own experience) only option for my son. What I don't understand is how can your treatment provide permanent correction when 4+years in a Milwaukee brace with PT everyday couldn't? I certainly was not happy about my son facing surgery, but we tried the chiro adjustments, orthotics, etc. with a family chiro friend and it was obvious that, while helpful, it was certainly not a long-term solution to the problem. It was hard to put (and see) my son through this, but I know in my heart this was the right decision and even though fresh from surgery, my son has expressed he feels the same way. We have no regrets about doing what we know what was right for our son. I am not knocking your approach, I am always interested in learning about new and successful approaches to scoliosis treatment (I mean "real" treatments, not empty promises). I would love to hear from your patients (especially those with 45+ degree curves) that through your treatment, were able to permanently correct and reduce their curves. Posting some x-rays showing progressive and permanent reduction in scoliotic curves would be even better.

[SandyC]

niky,
It won't do any good to argue with this "con". Hopefully if we ignore this individual they will fade away into where ever this type of fraudulent garbage goes

[LindaRacine]

Not only will I give you a money back guarantee that I will change your curve permantently but I will take your case FREE OF CHARGE untill you get the results and then you can pay. If you have a child and can not afford the treatment I can accept one more harship case right now. Completely free of charge.

I think that's a very generous offer, and would urge people to give it a try.

I already saw the x-rays on your website, so there's no need to post them here. The reason I (and most of the scoliosis specialists that I know) believe that scoliosis cannot be permanently corrected is that structural scoliotic vertebrae are wedge shaped. Bracing and other treatments may help straighten the curves, but when treatment is stopped, the curves will return to their original degree (or perhaps worse).

--Linda

[LindaRacine]

Since she requested it, I'm posting the private messages:

Here is a progress x-ray of one of our patients and now our assistant in our office. The first x-ray on the left is just before she began CBP treatment. She had a 28 degree scoliosis. The follow up x-ray is after about 120 visits and her scoliosis is reduced to 14 degrees. Since then she has undergone about 35 treatments and we will re x-ray again in another 30 visits. My assistant is living proof. She is happy to speak with anyone that would like to inquire about her experience. She, like many people on this board was considering surgery before I met her. Linda, if you would like to speak to her your self or visit her and many other patients at our clinic and see the treatment, x-rays, etc. you are invited any time. My assistant is only one of many patients that we have treated successfully.

Someone with a 28 degree curve was considering surgery?

What is your health, appearance, self-esteem and quality of life worth? Do you know how much pain a person with a 28 degree scoliosis can suffer from?

Another question, how much pain does one undergo with spinal surgery? How often is it successful? How much does it cost? How much money do you lose by being off work? What do you suppose your quality of life would be on pain pills as your spine continues to degenerate with age and the pain meds no longer work because your body becomes desensitized to them while rotting away your liver, kidneys, and the lining of your intestinal tract?

Once again you are dead wrong! When a patient has a scoliosis of more than 20 degrees, bracing and an orthopedic consultation is mandated so that the rib cage does not encroach upon the heart and lungs, thus leading to death.

Originally Posted by LindaRacine
Read the literature.... no one with a 20 degree curve is at risk for heart and lung problems (which only become significant when curves hit around 100 degrees.

What book are you reading that in?

[nikyergen]

Northlandmed,
If you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't ask Flowerpower to contact you. She just got home with her son from fusion surgery. Everyone knows you don't do chiropractic work of any kind on a fusions at all. That's what scares us about you. You could injure someone terribly by trying to manipulate a fusion. We all also know that surgery is never even considered by a surgeon until it reaches very close to 50 degrees or more.

[nikyergen]

There are hospitals and doctors, which we won't mention in this case, that do all scoliosis care for free for every child that walks in their door, regardless of income. Regardless of the result, the services are free. These hospitals don't limit the number of PRO BONO they do. Everyone they do is PRO BONO. These are world wide know surgeons and hospitals. Why have to worry about paying later, when the bill has added up over 155 appointments, when you don't have to worry about it at all.

[LindaRacine]

My assistant that had the 28 degree scoliosis was considering surgery to stop the progression of her scoliosis. As you know it does not get any better with time.

Take a look at those risk of progression pages that I posted. An adult with a 28 degree curve has almost no risk of progression.