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    Scoliosis and Link to Vaccine

    So, getting tired of always seeing idiopathic scoliosis, and know there MUST be a CAUSE for this, I started researching,.........and it seems there is a link between the polio vaccine,......most babies get this, and maybe more than one dose. And there have been studies done that show a link.......So,.....there you go......Anyone interested,....just google Scoliosis and the link to the Polio vaccine.....a bunch of sites will come up..........

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    Scoliosis and Link to Vaccine

    Quote Originally Posted by Pooka1 View Post
    Hi.

    Idiopathic doesn't mean no cause. It means the cause is unknown. Of course there is a cause.

    While polio victims sometimes get scoliosis, that is unrelated to idiopathic scoliosis.
    Why are you so sure it is unrelated? The studies show it IS related. They were able to CAUSE scoliosis in primates by giving them the polio vaccine. Seems it may be related to having the MTHFR gene defect, where the body is unable to process metals out of the body, causing curvature of the spine. I have read if you have scoliosis, you should test to see if you have the MTHFR gene defect. It would be interesting to see how many completely unvaccinated individuals that never received a polio vaccine have scoliosis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooka1 View Post
    The CDC doesn't seem to know about these studies. Can you post them?
    Agree with Pooka. As far as I can tell, there is no PUBLISHED research on scoliosis and the polio vaccine.
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    Congratulations on your 7th anniversary Karen.
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    Thanks, Marianne. How are you getting along?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LindaRacine View Post
    Agree with Pooka. As far as I can tell, there is no PUBLISHED research on scoliosis and the polio vaccine.
    Just google: " The Vienna Report linking scoliosis to vaccines", and it will come up. Could be the more vaccines, the more the damage..... Vaccines are full of toxins, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, mercury, aluminum, etc......we would not put this in a teaspoon and feed it to our kids,......but think nothing of injecting them into their bodies,.....and injection causes more trouble than ingestion..... Bad news is pharmaceutical companies CANNOT be sued,....they are NOT liable for any damage or death their vaccines may cause,.....there IS a "vaccine court", that is funded with taxpayer money,.....however, you must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines caused the damage or death,......billions have been paid out to families,.....(they keep it very quiet),...and this is just a small fraction of what actually SHOULD be paid out.......but, most blindly believe their doctors that the injury or death was "normal" or "coincidence", and never report it to VAERS, let alone receive compensation.

    If you keep researching, I am sure you will find out even more about this,.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nim View Post
    Just google: " The Vienna Report linking scoliosis to vaccines", and it will come up. Could be the more vaccines, the more the damage..... Vaccines are full of toxins, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, mercury, aluminum, etc......we would not put this in a teaspoon and feed it to our kids,......but think nothing of injecting them into their bodies,.....and injection causes more trouble than ingestion..... Bad news is pharmaceutical companies CANNOT be sued,....they are NOT liable for any damage or death their vaccines may cause,.....there IS a "vaccine court", that is funded with taxpayer money,.....however, you must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that vaccines caused the damage or death,......billions have been paid out to families,.....(they keep it very quiet),...and this is just a small fraction of what actually SHOULD be paid out.......but, most blindly believe their doctors that the injury or death was "normal" or "coincidence", and never report it to VAERS, let alone receive compensation.

    If you keep researching, I am sure you will find out even more about this,.......
    You can believe what you want, but this is not a published study. The source is a person who sounds more than just a little nutty. I would have deleted all of the posts in this thread, but was afraid that someone might have read the original post, and actually thought it might be valid.
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    One in a million

    How many petitions have been awarded compensation?

    According to the CDC, from 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,301 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,583 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed, 1 individual was compensated.

    https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compens...ata/index.html

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    A few years ago, I was about to stay on an Island for a few days of extreme diving. Coiba island, Pamana was the place, with all sorts of jungle type action. I figured I would get my vaccinations just in case of action. Didn't want to get sick on this island out in the middle of nowhere. I have been sick overseas, its no fun. Hep B lifetime was one of my selections. Tainted water, and questionable food items can happen especially in the wilds.


    In reading about a particular Hep B trial, approx 12 different doctors reported 12 different conclusions on a case which was pretty much shot down in court. No Peer reviewed evidence was submitted....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review



    Many times we get 2nd opinions. If 2 specialists do not agree, you have a problem. Now you have to move on and get a 3rd opinion and hope at least 2 of the 3 agree. You can also have 10 in agreement, and be wrong. This happens when the FDA blacklists medications. I have taken a few of those over the years.....(smug face)


    Down below I have attached a photo on Coiba island, but I had my tetanus vaccination just in case Rover moved over, and decided to bite me. (smiley face)


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    Iím going have to agree with Linda. This isnít a study about Scoliosis being caused by the polio vaccine. Because as far as I know I had the polio vaccine my scoliosis wasnít caused by the polio vaccine.
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    I agree that this is nothing scientific to show that there is no connection. But why should there be any talk at all about deleting a thread or posts. It was a valid post which received valid replies- there is so much misinformation about Scoliosis already that at least this is somewhere where we can go and have something refuted in a polite manner. Once again - we are all adults- deleting threads should play no part unless they are impolite or threatening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by burdle View Post
    I agree that this is nothing scientific to show that there is no connection. But why should there be any talk at all about deleting a thread or posts. It was a valid post which received valid replies- there is so much misinformation about Scoliosis already that at least this is somewhere where we can go and have something refuted in a polite manner. Once again - we are all adults- deleting threads should play no part unless they are impolite or threatening!
    Thank you, burdle! Ya,......I was just very lightly researching the CAUSE of curvature of the spine,....and THE Vienna Study came up,...along with a couple other papers, and I think it is not only interesting, but, knowing what I know about vaccines,....which is not a lot,....but probably more than most,.....my OPINION is that there very well may be a link between the polio vaccine and scoliosis.

    The U.S. is among the most vaccinated on earth, and our population is among the sickest,...I had 2 doses of vaccines as a kid,...today's kid's get about 64 by the time they are 6 years old. For the poster that commented on the monetary compensation paid to families of vaccine injured children,....they are NOT told there is a "vaccine court",....they are only told the pharm company is not liable.......and most parents have no idea where to turn,...they are told it is a "normal" reaction of a "coincidence" and has nothing to do with the vaccine.......and I am sure any doctor that is asked if they think there could be a link between the polio vaccine and scoliosis will say, "No way!"..........But docs spend little, if any, time studying what these substances injected into our children are capable of doing to them..............So, I posted about the vaccine/scoliosis link, because I thought I would want to know if someone came across any kind of material like this, and perhaps there are others on this forum that may want to take this and research further........Do NOT expect to find and "published" and "peer review" articles and the such,......There have been NO studies done on the long term safety of vaccines....they are afraid of what it might uncover...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nim View Post
    Thank you, burdle! Ya,......I was just very lightly researching the CAUSE of curvature of the spine,....and THE Vienna Study came up,...along with a couple other papers, and I think it is not only interesting, but, knowing what I know about vaccines,....which is not a lot,....but probably more than most,.....my OPINION is that there very well may be a link between the polio vaccine and scoliosis.

    The U.S. is among the most vaccinated on earth, and our population is among the sickest,...I had 2 doses of vaccines as a kid,...today's kid's get about 64 by the time they are 6 years old. For the poster that commented on the monetary compensation paid to families of vaccine injured children,....they are NOT told there is a "vaccine court",....they are only told the pharm company is not liable.......and most parents have no idea where to turn,...they are told it is a "normal" reaction of a "coincidence" and has nothing to do with the vaccine.......and I am sure any doctor that is asked if they think there could be a link between the polio vaccine and scoliosis will say, "No way!"..........But docs spend little, if any, time studying what these substances injected into our children are capable of doing to them..............So, I posted about the vaccine/scoliosis link, because I thought I would want to know if someone came across any kind of material like this, and perhaps there are others on this forum that may want to take this and research further........Do NOT expect to find and "published" and "peer review" articles and the such,......There have been NO studies done on the long term safety of vaccines....they are afraid of what it might uncover...........
    I am afraid that I do not think that there is a link and having looked at the article I can see it is not published and has no relevance in critical science thinking. I am entirely with Pooka1 on this as I think such articles are lazy and biased.

    It was more the fact that some of the posts in the thread were removed and I am fundamentally in favour of free speech and thinking on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burdle View Post
    I am afraid that I do not think that there is a link and having looked at the article I can see it is not published and has no relevance in critical science thinking. I am entirely with Pooka1 on this as I think such articles are lazy and biased.

    It was more the fact that some of the posts in the thread were removed and I am fundamentally in favour of free speech and thinking on this forum.
    The only posts that were removed were those that talked only about the hijacking of the original thread. They had nothing to do with the scoliosis vaccine link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nim View Post
    So, getting tired of always seeing idiopathic scoliosis, and know there MUST be a CAUSE for this, I started researching,.........and it seems there is a link between the polio vaccine
    Had you just asked whether there was a correlation, I would have been ok. Stating that there is a link is entirely different. The article that you quote is proof of the danger. You believed it, despite a complete lack of proof.
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