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Thread: Alternative to surgery? Chiropractor?

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    Following up on this thread merely to ask if anyone (who`s never been operated) had any medium-long term benefits from chiropractors or osteopaths. I take the opportunity for wishing merry Christmas to everyone.

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    nope....not me.
    i tried several kinds of doctors...
    including osteopath...i do not go to chiropractors...i do not
    consider them real doctors qualified to treat much
    that is my personal opinion, and i speak only for myself.

    all that has helped me...has been botox shots in upper spine and
    steroid shots in lower....especially in SI joint.
    but i was given too much steroid by one doctor and had to stay
    off those kinds of shots for 2 years...

    nothing else i can offer you for suggestions...
    exercise did help me in a way, but that was before i herniated
    a disc in lower spine....those discs may heal, per doctors, but
    mine has never been the same....and the least little exertion
    and it will kick.

    i hope you find the answers...but please be very careful going
    to someone who could, potentially, do more harm than good.

    jess

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    I know what you mean, I am definitely scared to make things worse with "ordinary" chiropractors or osteophats, but to be honest even with the most renowned ones, not to mention the cost given it would probably be a few sessions.. Browsing the net I found this one for instance http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NKEf-trK-8, he seems to know what he is talking about (of course I have nothing to do with this guy don`t know who he is I am not making publicity plus I live in Europe..), I am just saying because the thread opener mentioned a specialist of the spine amongst the best around, maybe going to them could be useful.. but my gosh so many scams and unprofessional people around, sometimes I just feel we are completely alone with our curved backs, no one has answers and this trial and error just gives not-so-professional-or-spine-specialists ground for making you believe they can do what others can`t, I completely hate this, we are simply alone, over the years we have learned what works for us and our body and backs and that`s it, no goddamn help or support from anyone except the net and its forums thanks to past experiences, sometimes it`s really frustrating..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Following up on this thread merely to ask if anyone (who`s never been operated) had any medium-long term benefits from chiropractors or osteopaths.
    I have done thousands of adjustments since 1986, and for “short term” pain control it worked quite well. Long term benefits might be pain control without destroying your body (liver and kidneys} with medications, and correction of curves just wont happen....don’t believe any Chiro that says “I can correct your curves” (knowing smile) I tried.

    Be careful of the hoopla that Chiropractors preach......much of it has no proof. Definition below;

    I have not seen many older scolis on the forums that have done chiro for maintenance, which is surprising for me since I feel that to be able to get a quick fix is a fantastic thing. I have had many amazing visits with Chiropractors through the years and these guys kept me walking for a long time. It was at the end at age 49 with twin 70 degenerated curves that it just wasn’t working anymore. Degeneration as we age is something we cannot control and this forced me into surgery.

    If you have scoliosis you need to see a scoliosis surgeon first to rule out things that Chiros have no clue about. Get permission from your scoliosis surgeon as far as chiropractic care is concerned.

    Chiropractors that see surgical candidates 40 deg or higher should be forced to send these patients to qualified scoliosis surgeons. We have seen chiros with 100 degree patients promising all sorts of hoopla, and this is wrong. YOU WILL DECIDE if you want surgery or not in the end, its your decision.


    hoopla[hoop-lah] Spell SyllablesExamplesWord Originnoun, Informal.
    1.
    bustling excitement or activity; commotion; hullabaloo; to-do.
    2.
    sensational publicity; ballyhoo.
    3.
    speech or writing intended to mislead or to obscure an issue.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Scoliosis is frustrating but we are fortunate that we have forums now.....Decades ago we were truly alone. I thought I was the only one that had scoliosis back in 1974 and the surgeons didn’t convey much back then....and there were not many of them, that’s for sure.

    I don’t feel alone anymore....and yes, its been a long road, but I hope you understand how I feel. I think the education part of it all helped me understand what was happening to me. This matters a lot, and the experience that many of us offer here is valuable in that regard......

    Linda Racine posted about side planks, which is very interesting.......you might look into this...

    I have to put my Santa suit on now and deliver presents.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    Linda Racine posted about side planks, which is very interesting.......you might look into this...
    That's interesting, I only found this WSJ article about it http://www.wsj.com/articles/study-do...nts-1414443022 and to be honest reading that just a few minutes a day reduced curves in 38% of adults reminds me of one of those too-good-to-be-true claims, I bet many of us would be willing to dedicate a lot more than a few minutes a day if we knew something would make a difference, wouldn't we? As a matter of fact I tried many planks in the past when I used to exercise a lot, always found that side planks were much more painful than horizontal planks so feared that they would do more harm than good, but I may have been wrong as often what hurts turns out to be good in the long run, so I'll definitely look into it.


    hoopla[hoop-lah] Spell SyllablesExamplesWord Originnoun, Informal. 1. bustling excitement or activity; commotion; hullabaloo; to-do. 2. sensational publicity; ballyhoo. 3. speech or writing intended to mislead or to obscure an issue.
    I like this Ed haha

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    Even chiros can get very short-term reductions. Standing funny can get you a short term reduction.

    What I think all these people who are publishing PT should have to address is how any form of PT overcomes the anterior overgrowth of the spine which is what drives the curvature. Until they do we can safely assume all PT methods produce only short term results.

    I wonder if this is a good or obscure journal. It may have been shopped to a better journal and been rejected. For such a small study, this article is being closely held. It is really hard to find more details. I suggest there is a reason for that.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    I don't live in he US but I would have thought the Wall Street Journal had some credibility. I'll look better into this but I'm too finding it hard to read more bout this,

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