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    Hey Clinic - Another collapse case in an adult

    http://drlloydhey.blogspot.com/2012/...iosis-and.html

    Yesterday we straightened up this 53 yo woman who was really suffering with a collapsing idiopathic and degenerative scoliosis. Her surgery went very well, and we got a very nice correction. She is doing well this morning, and smiled big time when she saw this X-Ray hanging up on her window. She did not need to go to ICU, and will get up walking today.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    When my nurse first showed me my x-rays, I couldnít believe how straight my spine looked....It was a needed boost, a small light at the end of the tunnel that I needed at the time being in survival mode. I would love to be able to show a person his or her x-ray since I know what its like to be on the receiving end. Maybe some day I can do this.

    I think its great that some of the readers here can see that big degenerated curves can be fixed....There is no reason to lose hope when these things are truly possible, these surgeries are happening all the time.

    The lateral listhesis x-ray at the bottom looks pretty bad (only 50 degrees) and itís a shame that heavy meds were used to maintain pain levels and a sense of sanity. Maybe it wasnít worth waiting. In fact I know it wasnít worth waiting for. There are times that surgery is the only answer, this persons case proves that. Living with a spine that looks like that isnít worth it. If you are having problems walking with scoliosis and are afraid, its time to visit a scoliosis surgeon, you owe it to yourself.

    As a scoliosis survivor, I cannot express how thankful I truly am. Through the years I didnít know when my time would come, but now with improved technology, waiting as long as I did is not necessary anymore.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Quote Originally Posted by titaniumed View Post
    There are times that surgery is the only answer, this persons case proves that.
    Hey Ti Ed,

    I don't think anyone doubts this. You can even find 6-sigma chiros admitting that surgery is necessary in some cases.

    People may try various conservative methods to stave of surgery but if they need surgery then they need surgery and folks in that category usually come to that realization.

    This idea is often labeled as "pro-surgery" but in fact is just "pro-reality." Nobody likes surgery but most people accept the need for it in cases where it can cut losses.

    The only debate is whether conservative methods work to stave off surgery for life.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
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    "We are all African."

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    Sharon

    A Six Sigma Chiro? Wow! I didnít know.... Do they train at GE? (chuckle, chuckle)

    There are many of us elder surgical candidates that wait because we are scared to DEATH regardless of the reality. I was one of them. Destroying your liver and minds on heavy meds is not a good idea.

    ďPro realityĒ usually doesnít happen in the fog of meds, and mixed multiple meds.

    Conservative methods after having major degeneration is a tough road, but many of us still keep hanging on. It was only when the pain started hitting line voltage rates, that I knew I was in serious trouble. I know there are many out there reading this.

    I think that Dr Heyís blog is great! Thanks for posting it here.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    not exactly sure what i am looking at when i look at the
    X ray and pic...

    i do know that i have listhesis..."left lateral listhesis of L3
    on L4 and L 2 on L3" (confirmed with X ray) also have "visible thoracic lordosis compensatory for the left lower thoracic kyphosis" and "on bending, there are 5 degree left high thoracic and 14 degrees lumbar prominences to Scoliometer measurement"...those last two comments per Boachie in 2007....6 years ago this January....
    i do not even know what all that means....guess i should....
    and am seeing Lonner end of next month to discuss my latest
    X ray that shows increase of curve 61 degree lumbar (2 years ago)
    to 70 degrees last year....

    i have not had surgery....nor have i made any decision...
    pain is worse without my lovely SI joint steroid shots,
    which i can no longer have, due to cortisol reaction....

    the decision is not easy....and the fact that my spine seems
    to be getting worse is not making the decision any easier for me....
    my spine seems to be collapsing...and i am quite sure i was one of
    those people with smaller size curves when younger, who was not
    SUPPOSED to have curves get large enuf for surgery....but who
    DID.

    jess

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    Jess

    I donít believe we have seen your x-rays? Did you ever post them?

    I sure hope that you donít look like that bottom x-ray in the blog.....it looks incredibly painful.

    Ed
    49 yr old male, now 58, the new 53...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    ALIF/PLIF T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    IMGP0349_1 (2).jpghttp://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...530#post144530
    Quote Originally Posted by jrnyc View Post
    not exactly sure what i am looking at when i look at the
    X ray and pic...

    i do know that i have listhesis..."left lateral listhesis of L3
    on L4 and L 2 on L3"
    (confirmed with X ray) also have "visible thoracic lordosis compensatory for the left lower thoracic kyphosis" and "on bending, there are 5 degree left high thoracic and 14 degrees lumbar prominences to Scoliometer measurement"...those last two comments per Boachie in 2007....6 years ago this January....
    i do not even know what all that means....guess i should....
    and am seeing Lonner end of next month to discuss my latest
    X ray that shows increase of curve 61 degree lumbar (2 years ago)
    to 70 degrees last year....

    i have not had surgery....nor have i made any decision...
    pain is worse without my lovely SI joint steroid shots,
    which i can no longer have, due to cortisol reaction....

    the decision is not easy....and the fact that my spine seems
    to be getting worse is not making the decision any easier for me....
    my spine seems to be collapsing...and i am quite sure i was one of
    those people with smaller size curves when younger, who was not
    SUPPOSED to have curves get large enuf for surgery....but who
    DID.

    jess
    Jess--I'm not sure what part you don't understand... I had lateral listhesis of L2/L3 and L3/L4. You can see it in my x-rays that I've messed up the link to in my signature, but you can still get to by clicking on the either of the other links and then click on the the album that is "pictures of my x-rays". (or something like that) Lateral listhesis is a sideways shifting or stair-stepping of your vertebrae and is dangerous and needs to be taken care of. In my pictures, my doctor has drawn around the area. I actually have a better example here at home. But at least you can imagine what damage that can result in to your spinal cord if it continues. It would be the middle picture (2nd picture) in that group. I'll see if I can just post it here instead.

    The x-ray was really dark so I lightened it up some, in case you looked right when I first posted it...
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    Last edited by Susie*Bee; 11-28-2012 at 06:56 PM.
    66 and still heartbroken...
    2007 52į w/ severe lumbar stenosis & L2L3 lateral listhesis (side shift)
    5/4/07 posterior spinal fusion T2-L4 w/ laminectomies and osteotomies @L2L3, L3L4
    Dr. Kim Hammerberg, Rush Univ. Medical Center in Chicago

    Corrected to 15į
    2014 DXd w/CMT (type 2)

    Click to view my pics: pics of scoli x-rays digital x-rays, and pics of me

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