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    You can heal your life

    I have been recommended this book "You can Heal your life" by Louise L. Hay. I actually purchased it a couple of years ago and never read it.. till now.

    This is a healing book and refers to all kinds of different illnesses and diseases. It says on it's cover " The thoughts we think and the words we speak create our experiences", She says if we are willing to do the mental work almost anything can be healed. It's a spiritual self improvement kind of a book. I have to agree, as I mentioned in this forum before, I believe Scoliosis is a mind body and soul issue.

    A couple of months ago I was recommended by an interesting lady I met to have therapy sessions for my Scoliosis, this spiritual woman thought it would be a very important step before going on the surgeon table, she said my scoliosis stems from a much deeper place and I need to do some healing first, clearing and cleansing within myself. She said the surgery results will be a lot better that way. I needed to dig deep inside to understand why I chose to have a surgery and why do I have Scoliosis? A question I have asked myself for a long time.

    There is actually a dictionary towards the end of book that lists different illnesses and diseases, the Cause for them is listed as well. I found there "Spine Curvature/Scoliosis" and read the cause for it, which didn't make any sense to me. Till I had an interesting conversation with my girlfriend's boyfriend about the surgery. Her boyfriend is a business man who have opened businesses around the world, he is still in his 20th, he even wrote 2 spiritual/self improvement kind of books, he is an amazing person for many reasons. He broke his leg recently and was in a wheel chair as we were talking. He was recommended after the accident a surgery, a rod will be placed in his leg. He refused the surgery and chose in natural healing for his leg, though it wasn't easy and very painful at first. He couldn't understand how I could allow rods in my own body.

    We started talking about the scoliosis surgery, he wanted to understand the deep reason behind things, why I wanted to have surgery and the root to my problem. He knows how to dig deep, so we started analyzing the issue. I am an aware person for the most part so maybe that helped in the process of unlocking the safe. First we started with the surface problems and reasons for surgery, than we went deeper and deeper into the issue itself. In order for it to work, I could hide nothing and had to open up and tell my deepest deepest secrets. It was like peeling an artichoke, till you get to the heart. When we got to the heart, we ended up with one cause that described my underline problem.

    Right away I remembered the book "you can heal your life" and it's written cause to my physical problem, Scoliosis. I was amazed the book and my 'healing session' with my girlfriend's boyfriend ended up with the same conclusion, same exact sentence. This is when I started reading the book for the first time, I thought I would give it a chance and I found it to be an amazing book, it helped me letting go of a lot of things and understanding the flow of life, so I let go of things and find healing within myself. It is a real healing book. I am still in the beginning of it. I am also gonna seek more therapy sessions.

    I believe the first healing session I have made(was without planning) was a couple of years ago. I had a massage therapist healer loosening up the muscles around my spine for 3 hours as I was seeking help for my pain. Without an advance planning he was somehow able to push each vertebra into place and give me a straight spine for about a minute, till it went back to its curve. Till that moment, as I believe I had scoliosis my whole life, I never knew how a straight spine feels, I was amazed of how free and flexible it felt, like something so heavy was lifted off my body for the first time, how everything felt 'right' and balanced. I cried in excitement, why wasn't I naturally granted the right to be straight? I have asked myself that question confused and angry, it took me about a year to get over it and seek constructive solutions to my problem.

    It's been a healing journey ever since..

    Please share with me any kind of healing stories you may have
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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1125 View Post
    When we got to the heart, we ended up with one cause that described my underline issue.
    What was it?

    I was amazed the book and my 'healing session' with my girlfriend's boyfriend ended up with the same conclusion, same exact sentence.
    What was the sentence?

    I'm glad that stuff helped you.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    Interesting. There is a huge mind-body connection and there is "mind work" that each of us needs to do no matter how physically twisted we are. I will see if the library has the book and give it a whirl. Scoliosis, the labeling and the pain does strange things to us. No doubt you will get some people that will respond to you on this blog that their mind didn't cause the scoliosis as if it were a choice made by your evil twin. I don't think that's what you are saying. There is insight in every experience, medical or not, that we should explore. I'll follow the blog and see what others say and see if the library has the book. I too am angry that I have scoliosis. I am 65 and ready for an active and well earned retirement and then find myself in pain from "adult onset degenerative scoliosis". Why me? Wonder if there is any insight that I will gain from the book? Thanks for posting.
    Susan
    Adult Onset Degenerative Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Severe disc degen T & L stenosis

    2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 in 2 surgeries
    2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal surgery for Spinal Cord Injury at T4,5 sec to PJK
    2015: Revision Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
    2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone + prayer

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    i think relating scoliosis to mind and soul causes is very
    dangerous...like telling people with cancer they could cure it
    if they were more relaxed and spiritual...
    that is just my opinion...everyone is entitled to their own...
    but i think this kind of stuff is very detrimental to anyone with
    any life threatening condition or illness....
    it smacks of a "blame the patient" mentality...
    i am sure my sisters, who do not have scoli, are no more
    spiritually advanced than i am...nor did my mother's cancer have
    anything to do with her spirituality...
    and that is what i think of it...
    oh, and i read her books, and others like it, years ago....

    jess

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrnyc View Post
    i think relating scoliosis to mind and soul causes is very
    dangerous...like telling people with cancer they could cure it
    if they were more relaxed and spiritual...
    that is just my opinion...everyone is entitled to their own...
    but i think this kind of stuff is very detrimental to anyone with
    any life threatening condition or illness....
    it smacks of a "blame the patient" mentality...
    i am sure my sisters, who do not have scoli, are no more
    spiritually advanced than i am...nor did my mother's cancer have
    anything to do with her spirituality...
    and that is what i think of it...
    oh, and i read her books, and others like it, years ago....

    jess
    Thank you Jess for writing down what I am feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrnyc View Post
    i am sure my sisters, who do not have scoli, are no more spiritually advanced than i am...
    And how about me? I am an imbecile at spirituality and STILL don't have scoliosis. :-)

    So it seems spirituality and scoliosis are not really connected at all.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    Please do not post stuff like this in the kid's forum. Actually, I recommend that it not be posted at all, as all it's going to do is start a war. Taking every bit of determination I have not to join the club.
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    I, too, am very skeptical about these kinds of "healers". They give you a massage, all the while talking the "talk" putting you in a very relaxed frame of mind while they skim your pocket book. They are pro's. It's their livelihood to suck people into a false sense of being able to cure themselves by addressing "hidden" emotional problems. I'm not saying that relaxation tecniques aren't good for us. It's very beneficial to learn how to relax and massages feel very good. What I'm talking about is emptying the mind so someone else can fill it full of propaganda that benefits only them. Sorry, scoliosis is usually inherited. NOTHING we do in a spiritual sense causes us to have scoliosis. There are, of course other forms of scoliosis that can be brought on by bad body mechanics over the years, perhaps an accident, and certain medical conditions. Yes, I also believe the mind is a powerful thing. It is pretty much known that uptight people tend to have more heart disease, etc. vs. laid back people. Happy people seem to be healthier in general than pessimistic people. That's where I draw the line. I feel that I am a pretty spiritual person. I know the cause of my scoliosis - pure genetics. It runs in my family. I don't believe in faith healing. If it takes a metal rod in my back to straighten me up, then that's what I'll eventually do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrnyc View Post
    i think relating scoliosis to mind and soul causes is very
    dangerous...like telling people with cancer they could cure it
    if they were more relaxed and spiritual...
    that is just my opinion...everyone is entitled to their own...
    but i think this kind of stuff is very detrimental to anyone with
    any life threatening condition or illness....
    it smacks of a "blame the patient" mentality...
    i am sure my sisters, who do not have scoli, are no more
    spiritually advanced than i am...nor did my mother's cancer have
    anything to do with her spirituality...
    and that is what i think of it...
    oh, and i read her books, and others like it, years ago....

    jess
    Having not read the book, but trying to understand what she, and others that talk about in mind-body connection say, is that there is a component of all ??most, ??many conditions that do have a mind-body connection. It is not "blaming the victim or the patient", just saying that for many or most, there may be something there that could help. Reading all of the books in the world will not change my "S" scoliosis curve [nor did it cause it], it is real, but understanding my relationship to my scoliosis and how I respond to it and the pain....now that might be help useful. Just sayin'. I'm sitting at the desk having just taken one of my 3x a day Methadone, and having an ice back in my pants [next to my sciatica which is killing me right now], and looking a the possibility of an injection and then "minimal surgery" [trying to put off the big T3-S1 fusion], I'm open to looking at all modalities that could possibly decrease my pain that don't involve a surgeon. Just open to possibilies. Doesn't work for everyone, I'm just open to possibilities.... Susan
    Adult Onset Degenerative Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Severe disc degen T & L stenosis

    2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 in 2 surgeries
    2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal surgery for Spinal Cord Injury at T4,5 sec to PJK
    2015: Revision Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
    2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone + prayer

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    Quote Originally Posted by YB1125 View Post
    (...) and why do I have Scoliosis? A question I have asked myself for a long time.
    If you have Adolescent idiopathic scoliosis, that is considered to be a genetic condition. A multifactorial, polygenetic condition.

    I and give me a straight spine for about a minute,
    How do you know it was straight if you didn't have a radiograph taken?
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    i am going to call the scoli surgeons and tell them to shut down
    shop...

    jess

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrnyc View Post
    i am going to call the scoli surgeons and tell them to shut down
    shop...

    jess
    What are you smoking, Jess?
    Susan
    Adult Onset Degenerative Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Severe disc degen T & L stenosis

    2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 in 2 surgeries
    2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal surgery for Spinal Cord Injury at T4,5 sec to PJK
    2015: Revision Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
    2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone + prayer

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    I will sign out of this discussion with this email. I thought, having read the initial email, that somehow, some of this might be related to mind-body connection literature in healing and pain control, a well respected evidence based approach in Pain Management. Seems that we are not going there, so goodbye and good luck in your discussions.
    Susan
    Adult Onset Degenerative Scoliosis @65, 25* T & 36* L w/ 11.2 cm coronal balance; T kyphosis 90*; Severe disc degen T & L stenosis

    2013: T3- S1 Fusion w/ ALIF L4-S1/XLIF L2-4, PSF T4-S1 in 2 surgeries
    2014: Hernia @ ALIF repaired; Emergency screw removal surgery for Spinal Cord Injury at T4,5 sec to PJK
    2015: Revision Broken Bil T & L rods and no fusion: 2 revision surgeries; hardware P. Acnes infection
    2016: Ant/Lat Lumbar diskectomy w/ 4 cages + BMP + harvested bone + prayer

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    Quote Originally Posted by susancook View Post
    I will sign out of this discussion with this email. I thought, having read the initial email, that somehow, some of this might be related to mind-body connection literature in healing and pain control, a well respected evidence based approach in Pain Management. Seems that we are not going there, so goodbye and good luck in your discussions.
    Susan
    The mind-brain-body connection is part of science and therefore real. Placebo is part of science and therefore real.

    Unfortunately, folks continue to jump the tracks of reality in this issue and take it into magic territory. Being emotionally scarred by having scoliosis is a real reason. But it isn't an excuse for an intellectually honest person.
    Last edited by Pooka1; 05-30-2012 at 12:28 PM.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

    No island of sanity.

    Question: What do you call alternative medicine that works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by susancook View Post
    What are you smoking, Jess?
    Susan
    I agree with Jess. If we can heal our selves, what do we need surgeons for?
    Melissa

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    December 8, 2014 - Another Broken Rod Surgery

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