Hello all,
I have not been on the forum for a long time. Unfortunately I must admit much of the reason i have not been around is that some individuals on the forum seem to have alot of time to express their views where they are not required or desired. It seems almost a hobby for them more than an actual pursuit of helpful information or support for others. Some insightful thoughts and insights end up getting run around in circles and go way off track in a battle of egos. That is not to say everyone on the forum is this way. In fact I think it is limited to a small few. I have seen others on the forum saying the same thing. Anyways I didnt come here to bash, I just think it is unfortunate. Maybe we can find a way to fix that?
Any way the reason I wanted to jump back in was because I have a theory/questions I want to throw out there regarding a potential treatment idea I have. I am a male, now 38 yrs old and have had significant pain for about 9 years from relatively small curves. About 30ish degrees last count. Ive been through the gammot of treatment protocols including clear and spinecore, chiro, massage, acupuncture and a pile of other psuedo scientific bologna. Unfortunately with no success. Been told by a number of doctors that it would not progress. They were incorrect. I am on track with the stats for adult progression at about a degree a year. I have devised a number of my own treatments and little back fix inventions without any lasting success. I have noticed one thing interesting though. I have been messing with my latest little torchure device and getting intermittent positive results. All it is, is about a two inch long peice of dowel erected vertically on a peice of plywood that I lay on (on my back) for about ten minutes at a time. Basically the dowel pokes the offending muscle on the convexity of my lumbar curve. The one that is overdeveloped. I also get my 6 yr old to whack the muscle with a wooden mallet a bunch of times,(Not odd at all I know). Sometimes it will coax that muscle into calming down and subsequently gives me relief from the pain I always get in the middle of my spine....for a little while. Anyways it got me thinking. We really don't have any non surgical treatment modalities that seem to give any real, consistent relief or alter the course of the curve. I sort of wonder if it is because our theories were heading in the wrong direction and we develop protocols to support our invalid theory. Hence, no real results.
Here is my theory of the week. My problem all started with this muscle on the convex side of my lumbar curve. That muscle became cramped or overworked and always tight to the point of constant agrivation. I tried everything and couldn't stop it. Eventually my back issues started compounding from that initial problem to the point I am today, quite a mess.
Now I always sort of thought that that initial muscle problem was a result of my curvature. The muscle was and always is working to stabilize my crooked spine. Now I wonder if it was the opposite. A muscle problem...... that eventually contorted my spine. Now, because of the degree of curvature the muscle is in fact supporting my crooked spine and is always working overtime. Anyways here is my potentially dangerous treatment protocol if this has not already been tried. What if you used something like botox injections to shut that muscle group off for extended periods of time. Scary i know. Maybe the dynamics of the spine would change? Unravel if you will? Anyways I could write a book so I will leave it at that.
Throw out your thoughts, especially if you are an adult with pain and are maybe willing to try my crazy wooden mallet and dowel trick to see if you get any relief. All the best, Bish
I have not been on the forum for a long time. Unfortunately I must admit much of the reason i have not been around is that some individuals on the forum seem to have alot of time to express their views where they are not required or desired. It seems almost a hobby for them more than an actual pursuit of helpful information or support for others. Some insightful thoughts and insights end up getting run around in circles and go way off track in a battle of egos. That is not to say everyone on the forum is this way. In fact I think it is limited to a small few. I have seen others on the forum saying the same thing. Anyways I didnt come here to bash, I just think it is unfortunate. Maybe we can find a way to fix that?
Any way the reason I wanted to jump back in was because I have a theory/questions I want to throw out there regarding a potential treatment idea I have. I am a male, now 38 yrs old and have had significant pain for about 9 years from relatively small curves. About 30ish degrees last count. Ive been through the gammot of treatment protocols including clear and spinecore, chiro, massage, acupuncture and a pile of other psuedo scientific bologna. Unfortunately with no success. Been told by a number of doctors that it would not progress. They were incorrect. I am on track with the stats for adult progression at about a degree a year. I have devised a number of my own treatments and little back fix inventions without any lasting success. I have noticed one thing interesting though. I have been messing with my latest little torchure device and getting intermittent positive results. All it is, is about a two inch long peice of dowel erected vertically on a peice of plywood that I lay on (on my back) for about ten minutes at a time. Basically the dowel pokes the offending muscle on the convexity of my lumbar curve. The one that is overdeveloped. I also get my 6 yr old to whack the muscle with a wooden mallet a bunch of times,(Not odd at all I know). Sometimes it will coax that muscle into calming down and subsequently gives me relief from the pain I always get in the middle of my spine....for a little while. Anyways it got me thinking. We really don't have any non surgical treatment modalities that seem to give any real, consistent relief or alter the course of the curve. I sort of wonder if it is because our theories were heading in the wrong direction and we develop protocols to support our invalid theory. Hence, no real results.
Here is my theory of the week. My problem all started with this muscle on the convex side of my lumbar curve. That muscle became cramped or overworked and always tight to the point of constant agrivation. I tried everything and couldn't stop it. Eventually my back issues started compounding from that initial problem to the point I am today, quite a mess.
Now I always sort of thought that that initial muscle problem was a result of my curvature. The muscle was and always is working to stabilize my crooked spine. Now I wonder if it was the opposite. A muscle problem...... that eventually contorted my spine. Now, because of the degree of curvature the muscle is in fact supporting my crooked spine and is always working overtime. Anyways here is my potentially dangerous treatment protocol if this has not already been tried. What if you used something like botox injections to shut that muscle group off for extended periods of time. Scary i know. Maybe the dynamics of the spine would change? Unravel if you will? Anyways I could write a book so I will leave it at that.
Throw out your thoughts, especially if you are an adult with pain and are maybe willing to try my crazy wooden mallet and dowel trick to see if you get any relief. All the best, Bish
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