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  • #16
    update on visit to the surgeon

    Hello to all scoli siblings and thankyou for your responses. I visited with Dr Hall today. When i was called, he watched me struggle to walk towards his office. He said he was very surpised to have seen my name on his appt book and wondered what had happened. I told him what had been going on and showed him my scans etc. He sent me off immediately for some updated xrays to check on all the hardware (me xrays of last week, were only of L4/5-L5/S1) top to bottom. He told me to wait for them and come straight back. We both sat there with this new computer xray thing (never seen this before) and scrutinised every bit of the hardware. There was nothing to be seen anywhere, that could explain the pain i was experiencing, nevertheless, why i struggling to walk. I was very tender in the low back to touch. He has now ordered a blood test to check for 'deep infection'. In the meantime, he wants me to try to commence walking slowly a few times a day and to try riding an exercise bike to keep the muscles in that leg moving. He asked me to keep my June 1st appt, but to call him if things deteriorate more. If they dont improve by next appt, he asked me to call him before hand, so that he could have me have a scan or possibly an MRI to double check. Thanks to all again and i will keep you informed.
    Vali
    44 years young! now 45
    Surgery - June 1st, 2009
    Dr David Hall - Adelaide Spine Clinic
    St. Andrews Hospital, Adelaide, South Australia
    Pre-op curve - 58 degree lumbar
    Post -op - 5 degrees
    T11 - S1 Posterior
    L4/5 - L5/S1 Anterior Fusion

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    • #17
      Hi Vali
      i hope you can manage some movement if that is what the surgeon wants...i know it will be painful....

      maybe it would be good to have that MRI...if nothing serious shows up, it might reassure you...

      i truly sympathize with you...it must be so frustrating....not knowing why this is happening to you!!! please know that people are thinking of you and praying for you...and that this all goes away really soon!

      jess

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      • #18
        Reply to pain

        Hi:

        So sorry but stay calm. You are doing right by seeing your spine doctor right away. Try not to stress too much (I know that is hard in our situation) but stress can also cause muscle spasms I have discovered. Just remember God doesn't give us anything we can't handle.

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        • #19
          Morning Vali. You're doing everything right, and you will get on top of this. Upon thinking about it more, it does sound like sciatic pain, which can be horrible. Is it easing at all? Have you tried a cold pack or a hot waterbottle, well wrapped? I hate using cold on soreness, and usually find heat helps more. However, I guess if it's inflammation, coldness might be better. Try both, and see what happens.

          You're in my thoughts.
          Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
          Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
          T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
          Osteotomies and Laminectomies
          Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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          • #20
            Morning all, Well, I think i've had everyone and anyone call me or stop by and tell me, how, they told me so. Funny how one family member (MIL) needs my help on the day of my visit to the surgeon, calls my husband to find out if i'm ok (she treats me as if i just came home from hospital everytime she sees me) and next minute my family and friends all know about it. So, i got all the 'you should have kept your housekeeper for longer', ' i told you, you shouldn't have gone back to work so soon', 'i know you have a newborn granddaughter, and things are really busy but shouldn't you be taking it easy?
            I have known my body for 45 years. I know what it can and can't tolerate. OK, so i've had a little bit (hope the blood test comes back negative!) of a setback. No problems, i will deal with it, with the help of my surgeon, gp and all you lovely people on this forum. Don't get me wrong, i appreciate their caring attitude from family and friends, but i don't need the 'told you so' at this point in time.

            Jen, i will try the cold pack as you suggested. I have always done heat packs as i always thought that cold packs constrict the vessels.

            dailypain, I will try not to stress, as those spasm are very painful, however, for some reason they only come on when i'm in bed.

            With regards to everyone who mentioned sciatica - excuse my ignorance - but can sciatica be down the front of your thigh? I am only familiar with sciatica down the back and side of legs.

            I can't remember, but was there someone on this forum who had the 'deep infection'? Does anyone know who this was? Would like to know what kind of symtoms they had - just for comparison - not for diagnosis.

            Sorry about the above venting, just needed to get it out. I will update when i get my results. Have a great day!
            Vali
            44 years young! now 45
            Surgery - June 1st, 2009
            Dr David Hall - Adelaide Spine Clinic
            St. Andrews Hospital, Adelaide, South Australia
            Pre-op curve - 58 degree lumbar
            Post -op - 5 degrees
            T11 - S1 Posterior
            L4/5 - L5/S1 Anterior Fusion

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            • #21
              Hi Vali
              yeah..i have sciatica down my left leg, and now it goes all the way up to my left hip...but i, too, never heard of it down the front of the leg...?

              hope you make a come back from this setback and that it all reverses itself with time...and i really hope the blood work comes back negative!

              feel better soon!
              jess

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              • #22
                When the pain is in the front of the leg, it radiates from a nerve root that is higher up than the sciatic nerve. I don't know the exact location, but maybe Linda knows.
                Sally
                Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
                Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
                Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
                Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
                New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
                Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

                "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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                • #23
                  This really piqued my curiosity, so I googled nerve root dermatomes. This link should help. http://www.backpain-guide.com/Chapte...culopathy.html
                  Sally
                  Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
                  Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
                  Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
                  Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
                  New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
                  Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

                  "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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                  • #24
                    Hi Vali

                    I had pain in my left thigh that for the last year prior to my surgery felt like 'deep bone pain.' It was classified as sciatica and results from an MRI showed stenosis at L3-4 and L4-5.

                    I used the term 'uncomfortable' quite often to describe my pain. Not to negate what I was feeling, I had had worse pain (passing a gallstone - that was a 10) but for sheer, relentless pain, that lumbar compression pain and sciatica was just so mentally draining. I could never get comfortable in any position, ever.

                    Hopefully there is no infection and that things settle down in there. I'm happy to see your surgeon is taking your complaints seriously.

                    Sally - thank you for the link - that diagram is very helpful! I bookmarked the page.
                    Julie - 51 yrs old

                    Dx'd 1973 - 43* thoracic curve / rotation
                    Wore Milwaukee brace 1973 - 1979
                    Pre-surgery: 63* thoracic / 52* lumbar curves


                    Surgeries: P - March 16, 2009 - Fused T3-S2 with pelvic fixation
                    A -April 14, 2009 - Fused L5-S1
                    Achieved +70% Correction
                    Dr. Khaled Kebaish, (and team) Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore


                    Standing x-ray
                    New Spine 03/19/2009
                    New Spine Lateral 03/19/2009

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                    • #25
                      Vali-i hope you are feeling better

                      Julie-wow...your new back looks amazing!

                      i was looking up sciatica and related stuff on internet...there is a website by a Dr Antonacci...i dont know anything about him...but the site has some great animations and pix of sciatica and radiculopathy! i had no idea that sciatica could come from so many places on the spine and that it can cause so many different places on body to hurt! so now i understand how sciatica can be back or front of leg...

                      jess

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                      • #26
                        Aaahhhh

                        Hi Vali,
                        I did have a deep infection although I may not be the person you mean. Two
                        and one half years after my fusion I started to get chills and pain in my right hip area. When I saw my dr. she noticed a slight swelling, warm to the touch,
                        to the right of the incision. I had not noticed it and it was not painful. She sent me for an X-ray which was normal, blood work which was very abnormal showing some huge infection,and a CT scan showed the abscess which needed to be drained surgically.
                        This does not mean that you have anything like this. They still don't know what caused it and I have now been off antibiotics for 10 months and things look good. I had the sciatica first and that had resolved when this happened.
                        Sounds like you have a good, caring doctor.
                        Good luck, Diane
                        ant./post. fusion Jan. '06
                        T3- sacrum
                        dbl.curve, T47,L43

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                        • #27
                          update

                          Hi all, thanks to everyone again. I got a call from my surgeon this afternoon ( I called his office yesterday, but forgot, he has theatre on Mondays!!), he said that the blood work all came back clear. He feels that i may have aggravated my SI joints as there is very slight swelling and tenderness in that region. He wants me to keep walking slowly on level ground and cycling (stationary bike). I told him that the cycling was not good for me as i did it twice and found it harder to walk when i got off. He suggested that, i should then maybe go to a pool and walk in the water. He prefers me to walk on level ground but if the weather is bad, he would prefer me in a pool. He also said that we could do further investigations, but thinks i should give it more time to settle. I have to keep him informed. He said he was at a complete loss as nothing showed up in the xrays or ct scan, the dics above my fusion even looked good! Right now, my pain has settled a little, however, i am taking it very, very easy this week. I have also cancelled my travel plans. I try not to take pain meds during the day, but take two Panadeine Forte at bedtime. I have noticed that the last two nights i have done this,m i have had no spasms - thank God, because they really hurt! I also use my trusted wheat bag and rub in the Emu Oil. Jen, if you read this, i couldn't do the cold pack - it's a bit cold here in Adelaide! To everyone who posted, with their thoughts and experience, thankyou so much. I will keep you posted on any developments.
                          Vali
                          44 years young! now 45
                          Surgery - June 1st, 2009
                          Dr David Hall - Adelaide Spine Clinic
                          St. Andrews Hospital, Adelaide, South Australia
                          Pre-op curve - 58 degree lumbar
                          Post -op - 5 degrees
                          T11 - S1 Posterior
                          L4/5 - L5/S1 Anterior Fusion

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                          • #28
                            Hi Vali, thanks for the update, you've been in my thoughts.

                            I'm glad to hear the pain is settling a little. I think this is a good sign and your surgeon may be correct in thinking that waiting a little longer is the way to go before further tests.

                            I don't blame you re the cold packs.

                            Let us know how you go. Take care and good luck!
                            Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
                            Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
                            T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
                            Osteotomies and Laminectomies
                            Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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                            • #29
                              Possible cause of pain ..........

                              Hi everyone pre and post op. Hope everyone is doing well. Its 12.45am and my final visitor has gone home. Our daughter turned 21 (July 6) and we have had family and friends in and out all night. I have been trying to post since Friday, but when i push 'submit reply' my post gets lost! Anyway, I saw my GP last week in regards to a TVUS i had done in regards to pelvic pain i have been experiencing since this episode began. Most of my pain is gone but i have some discomfort around my ankle indicating it the origins are S1. My scans have shown my left ovary is enlarged, my uterus which is supposed to be 4mm thick is now 10mm, the adenomyosis that the doctor suspected i had (never showed up on scan ) has now shown up on scan and i also have fibroids. My GP said that she feels my Gyn will opt for a hysterectomy and to be prepared. My question to anyone that can help me is........After having scoli surgery, which is a pretty big surgery, did you have to have another big surgery for something else. How did you go recovering from it? To help you a little. I am worried in case the theatre staff dont handle me correctly and i wake up in pain (not due to hyster but due to hardware movement ). Its a little hard to explain but i hope you sort of get the picture. Thanks for any replies.
                              Vali
                              44 years young! now 45
                              Surgery - June 1st, 2009
                              Dr David Hall - Adelaide Spine Clinic
                              St. Andrews Hospital, Adelaide, South Australia
                              Pre-op curve - 58 degree lumbar
                              Post -op - 5 degrees
                              T11 - S1 Posterior
                              L4/5 - L5/S1 Anterior Fusion

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                              • #30
                                Sorry to hear this latest news Vali. Can't help with your question but wanted to wish you well and hope you keep us updated as to how you go.

                                Sounds like you've had a busy time.
                                Surgery March 3, 2009 at almost 58, now 63.
                                Dr. Askin, Brisbane, Australia
                                T4-Pelvis, Posterior only
                                Osteotomies and Laminectomies
                                Was 68 degrees, now 22 and pain free

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