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    twisting limitations with full fusion.

    Here are some pics that will show how far I can twist with a T2-pelvic fusion.
    I also have pics of my rib hump, which is now much less. I still have about 30 degrees rotation in my vert, verified by my cts. My hump was much worse before my surgeries.

    Hopes this gives some idea as to limitations after a full fusion.
    Ed
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    49 yr old male, now 55, the new 39...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    A/P T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Ti Ed,

    The sitting photo especially seems to defy physics. Your shoulders are rotated more than 45* w.r.t. your hips. That means you are able to rotate your shoulder girdle significantly around from your hips.

    I guess I never realized that was possible with your fusion.

    Amazing.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    Those are absolutely amazing photos Ed. Seriously, wow. I'm fused T1-L4 and with the amount of physical activities I enjoy, I'm resigned to the fact that I may possibly end up being fused to the sacrum when I'm older. It's never worried me a great deal because I know how active people with sacral/pelvic fusions can be, but these photos make me worry even less

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    wow...that's so amazing, Ed...very unexpected, as Sharon said...

    i have a question...before your surgery..did your shoulder blades ever bother you while sleeping...like, feeling really uncomfortable when you were laying on your back or side...kinda' like they were poking up and hurting...this has been happening with me lately..& thoracic was at only 40 degrees october 2009...i will see scoli surgeon april 12...
    every surgeon i've seen, including dr anand in january, said fuse T11-S1 and L4-sacrum..now i'm thinkin' thoracic could present problems later on by not being included in fusion.......

    anyway..i think your back looks incredible....and how much you are able to twist...well, chubby checker would be soo proud...whoops...bet he was "before your time"

    jess

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    Absolutely incredible photos - inspiration to everyone here with a full fusion. Me being one of them.

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    I think the photos are great Ed and I believe they will be so helpful to so many on here, especially those considering a long fusion.

    You seem to have covered the bases here - but I still like the photo you posted (last year maybe?) of you balancing on the front tips of your skis and your poles...

    That one still mystifies me!!!
    Julie - 51 yrs old

    Dx'd 1973 - 43* thoracic curve / rotation
    Wore Milwaukee brace 1973 - 1979
    Pre-surgery: 63* thoracic / 52* lumbar curves


    Surgeries: P - March 16, 2009 - Fused T3-S2 with pelvic fixation
    A -April 14, 2009 - Fused L5-S1
    Achieved +70% Correction
    Dr. Khaled Kebaish, (and team) Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore


    Standing x-ray
    New Spine 03/19/2009
    New Spine Lateral 03/19/2009

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    And another thing...

    I note you can bend pretty far forward.

    In general it doesn't appear that you are limited in any way from the photos.

    You have a very straight back... you might consider dressage... posture is everything.
    Sharon, mother of identical twin girls with scoliosis

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    No face?

    Hey Ed!!

    GREAT idea to take and post those pics! You really should have included one of your cute little face so everyone can see what the comedic genius on the forum looks like~

    Glad all is well in your little corner of the world! Suzy

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    Sharon,
    Actually about 10 degrees is the pelvis twisting on soft tissues.(My ass) The legs adjust accordingly. The rest is in the shoulders, which are not attached by bone, thatís the soft tissues stretching. The ribs are fixed and donít move.

    It is not like wearing a full hard brace. It is much easier to deal with.

    Tonibunny
    You are welcome to use the write up and pics on SSO if you like. Just say Im a fused bloke from the states! LOL

    Jess
    No I never had problems with sleeping, or had rib problems. I will be waiting to see how your visit goes on April 12th.

    Rita
    You are a month out. I cant wait to hear how you are doing in the future. With the pain that both you and I were in, you should be doing fantastic here in the near future.....

    Julie
    I will do a correct tip stand and post the pic for you this weekend. I wasnít quite strong enough last year, and those pics were done 10 minutes after I rode the chair up, I was a little wobbly.

    Suzy
    Yeah, no face. Kinda kinky huh?
    LOL
    That was done real quick with a phone, down at work.
    Lets go skiing, get up here quick, the snows a melting.
    Its not like we will be doing any 215 footers...
    Ed
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    49 yr old male, now 55, the new 39...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    A/P T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Ed, thanks tons! I will post these on SSO, they'll be very reassuring for a lot of people there

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    What a picture! I'm impressed.

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    Ed

    This was really nice of you to do!
    Amy
    58 yrs old, diagnosed at 31, never braced
    Measured T-64, L-65 in 2009
    Measured T-57, L-56 in 2010, different doc
    2 lumbar levels spondylolisthesis
    Exercising to correct

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    getting high

    Rita

    Thatís not me, thatís Julian Carr out of Salt lake City. He specializes in insanely high forward flips, and lands them all on his back. He reaches terminal velocity oh, probably at around 70 feet and you cannot land them on your legs. He has a titanium leg, so lands them on his back with a backpack filled with foam.

    When Sally started skating, I suggested the foam filled backpack for protection. I knew about this from Julian.

    Here is a vid that shows what its like. You donít see this every day.
    Ed

    http://live.tetongravity.com/_Julian.../75233.html?b=
    49 yr old male, now 55, the new 39...
    Pre surgery curves C12,T70,L70
    A/P T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
    Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

    Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

    My x-rays
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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    Ed--
    Thanks for these pictures as a point of comparison for me too.
    (The man with no face is shrouded in mystery!) Janet
    Janet

    61 years old--57 for surgery

    Diagnosed in 1965 at age of 13--no brace
    Thoracic Curve: 96 degrees to 35 degrees
    Lumbar Curve: 63 degrees to 5 degrees
    Surgery with Dr. Lenke in St. Louis--March 30, 2009
    T-2 to Pelvis, and hopefully all posterior procedure.

    All was posterior along with 2 cages and 6 osteotomies.

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    What a man Ed. I was going to say, you can sure twist more than me. And then I stood up, kept my feet planted still, and twisted from the hips. Maybe I didn't get quite as far as you, but I did surprise myself.

    I was also disappointed that we didn't get to see your smiling face. And that video of 'FUN', OMG I just about got nauseous.

    Thanks for showing me that I can do more now than I thought!!
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    Debbe - 50 yrs old

    Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
    Told by Dr. my curve would never progress

    Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
    Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
    Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees

    Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
    Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees

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