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  • Uneven ribs one year post-op?

    I underwent a T2-L1 posterior fusion on March 25, 2009, so I'm almost a year out... but still have uneven ribs - mostly in the front. While my right-side "hump" in the back has been greatly diminished with the surgery, the bottom part of my left ribcage still protrudes a bit in the front, and I can also see that the muscles on my stomach are almost "slanted", which I assume is due to the torso rotation from my scoliosis. Does anyone else experience this so far out? Do the ribs eventually make their way into a "straight" position? I know with having had scoliosis and a pretty significant thoracic curve for 12+ years of my life, my ribs aren't just going to magically align themselves overnight, but I AM hoping they will become more even with time, now that my spine is straight.... thoughts?? Any exercises I can do to help move this process along? Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks!

  • #2
    Jess,

    It's my suspicion that all the visible physical changes have probably occurred by one year post-op. At least in my case, Hanson told me most of the "settling in" would happen in the first 3 months.

    You might talk to your doctor about whether PT could help minimize the appearance if it bothers you that much: With a lot of ab/torso work, I was able to keep mine almost flat before surgery (when I needed to). It's worth checking into, anyway ...

    Good luck!

    Pam
    Fusion is NOT the end of the world.
    AIDS Walk Houston 2008 5K @ 33 days post op!


    41, dx'd JIS & Boston braced @ 10
    Pre-op ±53°, Post-op < 20°
    Fused 2/5/08, T4-L1 ... Darrell S. Hanson, Houston


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    • #3
      Jess,

      When I met with my surgeon, he said that he would not be able to correct my ribcage that, like you, sticks out on my left front. He said he would be able to significantly correct my right rib hump however. Just curious, did your surgeon say he could correct your front ribs?

      Laurie
      Laurie
      Age 57
      Posterior fusion w/thoracoplasty T2-L3 Oct 1, 2010
      Thoracic curve corrected from 61* to 16*
      Lumbar curve, unknown measurement
      Disfiguring back hump GONE!!
      Dr Munish Gupta
      UC Davis Medical Center, Sacramento, CA

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      • #4
        nope, my surgeon didn't say anything about correcting my front ribcage asymmetry, but i just figured it'd be better than before! and it is...just not even by any means. and it's also accentuated because i'm pretty thin, and b/c my muscles are defined as well, it makes my muscles look uneven...haha. my mom tells me just to put on some weight to hide my ribs. but anyway, it's not that the physical appearance bothers me so much, but i just feel "crooked" and twisted still...and after all i went through with that surgery, i was hoping that wouldn't be the case! oh well.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by lray View Post
          Jess,

          When I met with my surgeon, he said that he would not be able to correct my ribcage that, like you, sticks out on my left front. He said he would be able to significantly correct my right rib hump however. Just curious, did your surgeon say he could correct your front ribs?

          Laurie
          laurie,
          just curious...did your surgeon say WHY he would not be able to significantly correct your front rib asymmetry? i am just wondering why they can usually correct the back rib hump to a great extent, but not the front?

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          • #6
            Odd. Although my rib hump wasn't totally corrected, the ribs in front are flat now.

            You'd think the two (back and front) would correlate more ...
            Fusion is NOT the end of the world.
            AIDS Walk Houston 2008 5K @ 33 days post op!


            41, dx'd JIS & Boston braced @ 10
            Pre-op ±53°, Post-op < 20°
            Fused 2/5/08, T4-L1 ... Darrell S. Hanson, Houston


            VIEW MY X-RAYS
            EMAIL ME

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            • #7
              I know! Very weird. Psh.

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              • #8
                Jess--
                I thought I was the only one. I can relate to all of your sentiments. I still have a fairly significant rib hump on right side and all those ribs top to bottom are prominent. Still better than before mostly because I was stretched out that it doesn't look so awful. More concave on bottom left. My front left ribs come out some but that isn't as bad for me. If you look at me from the left side that shoulder blade sticks up and then rest caves in. From right side it looks bowed. I also have a tilt to the left. I know I've posted about this before in various detail. Lately I've felt that it seemed worse many days. Sometimes the tilt is better then the hump is worse. Honestly, I think it changes with a little weight gain for me making it worse or if I've been carrying to much--little grandson, etc.
                I've definitely gotten lots of pt exercises and do them a lot and do my regular work out also. I was concerned at my 3 month but the doctor seemed to think that was all they could do with mine. I'm afraid that is true but I sure wish I had the results most on here have after going through it all. As long as it gets no worse I guess I can live with it. Little choice I guess--ha! Janet
                Janet

                61 years old--57 for surgery

                Diagnosed in 1965 at age of 13--no brace
                Thoracic Curve: 96 degrees to 35 degrees
                Lumbar Curve: 63 degrees to 5 degrees
                Surgery with Dr. Lenke in St. Louis--March 30, 2009
                T-2 to Pelvis, and hopefully all posterior procedure.

                All was posterior along with 2 cages and 6 osteotomies.

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                • #9
                  I didn't think to ask him why at the time - I was more interested in his description of how he was going to correct my back hump (thoracoplasty). I will ask him about my front ribs next time I see him.
                  Laurie
                  Age 57
                  Posterior fusion w/thoracoplasty T2-L3 Oct 1, 2010
                  Thoracic curve corrected from 61* to 16*
                  Lumbar curve, unknown measurement
                  Disfiguring back hump GONE!!
                  Dr Munish Gupta
                  UC Davis Medical Center, Sacramento, CA

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                  • #10
                    Hi Jess...

                    In scoliosis, the rib cage becomes deformed. When the spine is corrected, the rib cage is moved into a more natural position, but the deformity remains. So, it's relatively common to see a prominent rib on one side.

                    Regards,
                    Linda
                    Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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                    Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
                    Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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                    • #11
                      Janet, I'm assuming that because your curve was so large and rigid, the correction was more limited. I'm sure that will be the case with me as well. My C curve is 85 - 90 degrees, depending upon who is measuring, and Dr. Lonner said he could get me 50% correction. I'll be very happy if I have some improved lung function and it doesn't get worse anytime soon. I am assuming that it will progress somewhat with age. I suppose we have to make peace with out bodies and thank G-d for the correction we have achieved. With clothes it is not that noticeable, and how many 57 year olds look that great in a bathing suit anyway?! Have you kept the added height? All the best, Joy

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                      • #12
                        Linda, Regarding your comment, how would you describe the cosmetic correction even thought the rib deformity remains? Thanks, Joy

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                        • #13
                          yeah, I guess I shouldn't complain...my back looks great post-op; it's just the bottom part of my left ribcage in the front that bothers me a bit. and when I "suck in" you can definitely see that my ribcage is still a bit rotated. anyone else notice this?

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                          • #14
                            Joyfull & Jess
                            Yes, it isn't too evident except at the beach--where I am now for 2 weeks. Yahoo. So I'm probably more focused on it. My tanning is a little ridiculous as I tried to get down on the sand and turn over--will this ever get easier?? I walk around just fine but I have not even come close to doing that well. I just can't do the stomach thing unless my head is in a hole. I need to dig deeper. I'll have a tan front not back.
                            Luckily my correction was very good--see signature. Good luck to us Jess as we hit our one year! Janet
                            Janet

                            61 years old--57 for surgery

                            Diagnosed in 1965 at age of 13--no brace
                            Thoracic Curve: 96 degrees to 35 degrees
                            Lumbar Curve: 63 degrees to 5 degrees
                            Surgery with Dr. Lenke in St. Louis--March 30, 2009
                            T-2 to Pelvis, and hopefully all posterior procedure.

                            All was posterior along with 2 cages and 6 osteotomies.

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                            • #15
                              Have not been on for awhile, just pop in from time to time to see how everyone is doing. Yes I do have the same rotation thing with my ribs, in front on my left side, the ribs are more prominent than on the right, but still with the surgery my waist is elongated, and the back bump is gone. It is only noticed if I where a form fitting shirt, I where it proudly!
                              Dolores A
                              June 4, 2009 Anterior L3 - S1
                              June 8, 2009 Posterior T4 - Pelvis
                              Mark Agulnick, MD FAAOS
                              NY Spine & Scoliosis Center

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