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Jimbo
03-09-2009, 05:15 AM
Well today I went to Westmead Hospital to see a surgeon for a second opinion. Well, I am feeling very bad right now.

The surgeon told me I had micro fractures in my lumbar spine and that he does not recommend surgery as he would have to fuse me from the pelvis all the way to the top thoracic vertebrae. He told me to come back in 20 years :(

I asked him about whether nursing would be a wise career for me and he kind of shrugged and said that it might not be the best idea. I feel really lost at the moment. I start back at uni tomorrow, and I don't know what the hell to do.

He remeasured my cobb angle and it was thoracic 38 and lumbar 36, which is completely different than the other surgeonís measurements of 40L 25T. What the hell is up with that?

I found this particular surgeon very unhelpful, distant and uninterested. He not only got my $250, but a big chunk of my hope too.

Sorry for being such a wiener, but I am just feeling so bad at the moment, just don't know what to do anymore. To ad to that my brother, in his thoughtless manner called me mr disability which cut to the bone. I know he didn't mean it but it really affected me.

asccbodypro
03-09-2009, 11:53 AM
I found this particular surgeon very unhelpful, distant and uninterested. He not only got my $250, but a big chunk of my hope too.

Jimbo,

If you found this surgeon to be unhelpful, distant and uniterested that would be a good indication that you need to disregard his opinion and get another one. If he really was that disinterested why bother worrying about what he thought? There are a lot of good surgeons out there that truly care about their patients and are willing to take the time that is needed for you to ask your questions and to feel comfortable with any decision you make regarding your condition. Just remember this is a big decision to have surgery and you need to pick a surgeon that you feel comfortable with and trust. Don't waste good energy on surgeons that don't meet your needs, just look for the ones that do!!! Good luck, hope all works out for you.

debbei
03-09-2009, 03:09 PM
COME BACK IN 20 YEARS???? Is he out of his MIND???? I'm not sure of your age, but even if you're in your 20's I'd recommend having it checked at LEAST every 5 years to check for progression. At least that's what I wish I had done...

Sheesh Jimbo, I'm sorry you had such a miserable visit. 38 and 40 degrees don't sound like much to worry about but 36 vs. 25 sure is quite significant. When were you at the other surgeon's to get the original measurements? Were these both spine specialists?

I agree with the other response that you should try another doctor. Remember, there are lots of "Dr. Dumbells" out there. Some are just plain STUPID and some just have no bedside manner. Sounds like your guy needs help in both areas. ;)

((Hugs))

Nancy Joy
03-09-2009, 10:03 PM
Jimbo- amen to the other 2 replies!!!!! They are right on. And about your brother. That is sad he said something like that and just shows how uneducated people are about scoliosis unless they unfortunately have reason to BE educated. Thank goodness for this website where others truly understand and empathize. It can help you silently think "I know you meant no real harm and are clueless how you just affected me" and try to smile and keep loving them anyway.

Jimbo
03-10-2009, 06:30 AM
Thanks guys, your words really do help alot.

In regards to the surgeon, I was just shocked because he was accredited by Scol Research Society - he had the lil plaques all over his wall. Oh, well, he can kiss my ass! I aint gonna let him get me down.

I already think I have the right surgeon, Dr Gray, but I just wanted a second opinion.

I suppose I have to realise that this Dr is seeing young children all day much much worse than me, and he probably just didn't want to take my case on board.

I also think we go into these appointments expecting miracles, but that just aint the way the universe works, most of the time anyway.

Hope you are all doing very well :)

debbei
03-10-2009, 06:46 AM
Thanks guys, your words really do help alot.

In regards to the surgeon, I was just shocked because he was accredited by Scol Research Society - he had the lil plaques all over his wall. Oh, well, he can kiss my ass! I aint gonna let him get me down.



Good for you Jimbo; don't let that jerk get you down. Someone can have all the plaques in the world all over his wall and still be a JERK.

loves to skate
03-10-2009, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=Jimbo;72802]
I suppose I have to realise that this Dr is seeing young children all day much much worse than me, and he probably just didn't want to take my case on board.

Hi Jimbo,
I'm sorry this guy didn't give you any hope. I would think it best if you get a second opinion from someone who specializes in adults. I am sure there is a big difference stabilizing a young spine and stabilizing an adult spine. We are not nearly as flexible. Good luck. Sally

Suzy
03-10-2009, 05:55 PM
Jim,

I think you need to stop payment on your visit and when they call you about it tell them to check back in 20 years!! OMG, What a jerk. I was mad reading this. Unfortuanally there are Dr's. out there like this even with all the credentials hanging on the wall. I bet there was no "Compassion" credential. If you feel he didn't want to take your case that stinks, he sure took your money. Did you tell him he was a 2nd opinion? Not that it should matter...

As for the crack about disability, my Husband thought I should apply! I could go back to dental assisting, I just don't want to! Heck I could do almost anything that wouldn't require HEAVY lifting or running. (Running feels weird, I am fused T-10 to L4) Brush it off, everyone seems amazed we live through this surgery let alone flourish!

Best wishes, Suzy


Fused 2/22/06 was 49* Lumbar now 8*

titaniumed
03-10-2009, 10:28 PM
Jim

This was just a little trip in the road and hell you didn't even fall down. If nursing is your passion, then do it. Do what you want to do, and don't look back for a second.

I had double 50s at age 16, and I kept going. The Docs told me no skiing 33 years ago. My response was the exact same response that Anthony Hopkins gave the Doctor in the movie "The worlds fastest Indian"

Watch the movie,great flick!
Ed

Jimbo
03-11-2009, 04:54 AM
Thanks Ed!

And Suzy, I love that idea LOL. Will pay you in twenty years. That would be the ultimate comeback X()

Bless you all :)

theizzard
03-11-2009, 01:21 PM
that really is a great movie and it was just on again this week. i have a problem with the expression "he/she didn't mean anything by it." Well if that's the case, then they wouldn't say it or they would apologize. We give people too much of a break when they say really hurtful things, which we excuse with the aforementioned statement. ok down from the pedestal.
avis

asccbodypro
03-11-2009, 01:56 PM
I must say Avis, I agree with you! Were has the accountability gone these days. Seems we are always forgiving people who are idiots. This doctor clearly did not have your best interest in mind and you ARE paying him. Scrap him off the bottom of your shoes and move on to find a great doc that wants to be involved with your case! Stay positive and put this doc out of your mind, he is not worth the your time or effort.

Sorry folks, just not feeling forgiving today:o)

Aussiemum
03-15-2009, 08:28 PM
That's sad and very rude of the surgeon to say that to you!
I use this Dr for my Daughter, have found him to be an excellent surgeon, but he is a little odd in his comments sometimes!
I'm not trying to defend him but maybe....... he meant by the "come back in 20 years comment" - that to try and fix you was so risky that he'd prefer you to get another 20 years out of your back before he really felt it worth the risk! I don't know - but maybe.

Elysia's surgery was not totally successful and now she has to have further surgery down the track to extend her fusion! I went to Dr Angus Gray for a 2nd opinion with him - and found his bedside manner EXCELLENT!!! Much more friendlier and much more talkative!!!!! I would say he's your man! But... on saying that he told us we were in excellent hands with Dr Cree!

I guess for him - life as a surgeon is so frustrating - as parents front up with their kids - he suggests surgery - they decline - and the child returns in 10-15 years as an adult and requests "fix me please" - Not saying that happened in your case Jimbo - but it must get frustrating for them.


I'm saddened to hear that you've had such a bad experience! Try to keep your chin up - stick with Dr Gray, although getting to his rooms was a nightmare for me all the way on the other side of town - hope your much closer than I am!!!

Hugs from Aussie to Aussie
xx

Jimbo
03-18-2009, 02:08 AM
Thanks Aussiemum :)