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    Ok...so I know this is a weird question, but can any of you post op people out there float in a pool? I tried the other day in my hot tub and discovered I list to the left side and slowly sink. I was a lifeguard for 7 years and I know that I know how to float so thats not the problem. i think my hardware is heavier on the left side so it starts sinking first. It was actually kind of funny and my sister and my daughters got a a big kick out of watching me sink. So...can you float?
    Geish
    47 years old, dx at 13
    +30* to the right, +60* to the left, +30* to the right
    Surgery 12-13-07 - fusion from T4 to sacrum.


    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=267 Pre surgery
    http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...tachmentid=268 Post surgery
    http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC01091.jpg Xray from the side
    http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...1089-1-1-1.jpg Xray from the back

  • #2
    Interesting! When/if we get our pool opened this summer, I'll let you know what happens when I try! Glug, glug, glug!
    71 and plugging along... but having some problems
    2007 52° w/ severe lumbar stenosis & L2L3 lateral listhesis (side shift)
    5/4/07 posterior fusion T2-L4 w/ laminectomies and osteotomies @L2L3, L3L4
    Dr. Kim Hammerberg, Rush Univ. Medical Center in Chicago

    Corrected to 15°
    CMT (type 2) DX in 2014, progressing
    10/2018 x-rays - spondylolisthesis at L4/L5 - Dr. DeWald is monitoring

    Click to view my pics: pics of scoli x-rays digital x-rays, and pics of me

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    • #3
      Alicia, as much gas as I've had this last week I could have floated like a dead fish! Seriously, I'll have to check it out once I'm cleared to submerse myself in water. Thanks for the interesting thought!
      Becky, 46 years old
      Diagnosed at 13 with mild scoliosis
      Ignored until 448/07
      Left thoracic 49* T5-T11
      Right thorocolumbar 60* T11-L4
      Surgery Monday, June 9, 2008 Oklahoma Spine Hospital
      Fused T-10 to L-5
      14 titanium pedicle screws
      Corrected to approx. 10* YEA!!!
      Email

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      • #4
        Hi Alicia,

        I was cleared for swimming about 3 months ago and the first time I went swimming, I immediately started to sink while trying to swim. I am able to swim now, but I guess I haven't even tried to just float. I doubt that I can just float and would have to keep my arms moving just to stay on top of the water. I'll try it next time I go to the pool and let you know. Sally
        Diagnosed with severe lumbar scoliosis at age 65.
        Posterior Fusion L2-S1 on 12/4/2007. age 67
        Anterior Fusion L3-L4,L4-L5,L5-S1 on 12/19/2007
        Additional bone removed to decompress right side of L3-L4 & L4-L5 on 4/19/2010
        New England Baptist Hospital, Boston, MA
        Dr. Frank F. Rands735.photobucket.com/albums/ww360/butterflyfive/

        "In God We Trust" Happy moments, praise God. Difficult moments, seek God. Quiet moments, worship God. Painful moments, trust God. Every moment, thank God.

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        • #5
          Non floater here

          OMG Alicia! I thought it was just me! I tried the first summer after surgery and thought I couldn't float because I had lost 22 lbs from the surgery. I was always able to just think about floating and could do it while barely moving my arms. Wow, I just realised something....My best friend has a Harrington rod and she CAN'T float either! I spent so much time trying to teach her and thought it was because she learned to swim late in life and still isn't too comfortable in the water. I know the hardware doesn't weigh much because I asked my surgeon about it. So I wonder what the deal is. Our pool is getting close to warm enough for me so I will check again. I didn't go in the water much in the beginning because after being weightless in the pool I felt a lot of pressure on my lower back when gravity hit me. I gained back all the weight so maybe now I will float? Maybe not.........
          I will let you know. Suzy

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          • #6
            Hi...

            I can float, and have quite a bit of stainless steel (with implants on both the front and back of my spine). I wonder if it's got to do with your being stiff and protective.

            --Linda
            Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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            Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
            Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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            • #7
              I've never been able to float and keep my feet up without extra paddling (I was also a lifeguard) ...

              I haven't tried floating since surgery, but (I was told) my hardware weighs about 6 oz. total: It's hard to believe the weight alone would have much effect in my case.

              Both body tenseness (and I can imagine long fusions add to that) and body fat are factors that not only affect overall bouyancy, but how "far up" you float. My body fat has always been 15-16%, and I'm sure that plays a part in my "sink like a stone"-ness.

              I did, however, always ROCK at "tea parties". Heh.

              Both my kids, on the other hand, just pick their feet up off the bottom and go *bLoOoOoP!* to the surface. I'm curious whether Jett (my Marine), at his current body fat level (very low ... but I'm not sure how low), still floats. I'll have to ask ...

              Regards,
              Pam
              Fusion is NOT the end of the world.
              AIDS Walk Houston 2008 5K @ 33 days post op!


              41, dx'd JIS & Boston braced @ 10
              Pre-op ±53°, Post-op < 20°
              Fused 2/5/08, T4-L1 ... Darrell S. Hanson, Houston


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              EMAIL ME

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              • #8
                I had the same problem. It is also very hard for me to swim!!
                Theresa

                April 8 & 12, 2004 - Anterior/Posterior surgery 15 hours & 7 hours
                Thorasic - 79 degree down to 22
                Lumbar - 44 degree down to 18
                Fused T2 to sacrum
                June 2, 2005 - Pedicle subtraction osteotomy @L3 7 hours
                MAY 21, 2007 - Pedicle subtraction osteotomy @ L2, extended the fusion to S2 and added pelvic instrumentation 9 hours

                FUSED T2 - SACRUM 2

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                • #9
                  flotation device

                  In 2001, The Sun, a British tabloid newspaper reported that Queen Elizabeth II has a rubber duck in her bathroom that wears an inflatable crown. The duck was spotted by a workman who was repainting her bathroom.[1] The story prompted sales of rubber ducks in the United Kingdom to increase by 80% for a short period.

                  The rubber duck can be referred to informally as a "rubber duckie" or a "rubber ducky." Amongst collectors of rubber ducks, the spelling "rubber duckie" has achieved prominence, but both spellings are considered acceptable.

                  http://www.pricehot.com/rubberducky.html

                  Im a diver, I couldnt help it.

                  sorry
                  Last edited by titaniumed; 06-20-2008, 02:29 PM.
                  49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                  Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                  ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                  Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                  Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                  http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                  My x-rays
                  http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                  http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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                  • #10
                    Another lifeguard here (post Harrington rod surgery even!) and I've also never really been able to float. In one of my lifeguarding courses, I remember they showed us 3 body types: Endomorphs (really thin), mesomorphs (athletic, muscular) and ectomorphs (heavier) - not sure I have the words right by the way - and they explained to us that because muscle is heavier than fat or skin tissue, people with a much greater percentage of muscle to fat don't tend to float - so mesomorphs are the ones we were supposed to be scooping off the bottom of the pool I'm thinking metal rod may tip the balance for those who are sort of on the floater/non-floater cusp, but it's just a theory.

                    The other thing is your lung capacity does help you maintain some buoyancy, and if it's affected by your spine curving, you may not be able to hold in as much air.

                    I've actually thought about this topic way too often over the years, which is why I'm just full of theories
                    - 39 years old
                    - At age 14, curve progressed from 45 degrees to 62 degrees in two months.
                    - Surgery in 1990 at the Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario (CHEO) with Dr. Letts. Fused T5 to L2. Corrected to about 30 degrees.
                    - Harrington rod
                    - Herniated disc - L5/S1 - January 2008. Summer 2009 - close to making a full recovery.
                    - New mommy as of February 2011
                    - Second child - September 2013
                    - Staying relatively painfree through physio exercises!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by titaniumed
                      In 2001, The Sun, a British tabloid newspaper reported that Queen Elizabeth II has a rubber duck in her bathroom that wears an inflatable crown. The duck was spotted by a workman who was repainting her bathroom.[1] The story prompted sales of rubber ducks in the United Kingdom to increase by 80% for a short period.

                      The rubber duck can be referred to informally as a "rubber duckie" or a "rubber ducky." Amongst collectors of rubber ducks, the spelling "rubber duckie" has achieved prominence, but both spellings are considered acceptable.

                      http://www.pricehot.com/rubberducky.html

                      Im a diver, I couldnt help it.

                      sorry
                      BWHAAAAHAAAAAHAAA!!!!
                      __________________________________________
                      Debbe - 50 yrs old

                      Milwalkee Brace 1976 - 79
                      Told by Dr. my curve would never progress

                      Surgery 10/15/08 in NYC by Dr. Michael Neuwirth
                      Pre-Surgury Thorasic: 66 degrees
                      Pre-Surgery Lumbar: 66 degrees

                      Post-Surgery Thorasic: 34 degrees
                      Post-Surgery Lumbar: 22 degrees

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                      • #12
                        Thank you Debbie. I was wondering who was going to respond first! Comedy takes effort, and its tough without a response.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaHZW4GAyM

                        With all this serious scoli stuff I figured Id inject a little cheer for fathers day!

                        toast to the Queen!

                        Oh by the way, I went swimming today!
                        Last edited by titaniumed; 06-20-2008, 02:30 PM.
                        49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                        Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                        ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                        Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                        Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                        My x-rays
                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                        http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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                        • #13
                          I have a herrington rod and can float. I do have one side that floats higher, but I thought that's because I'm female with more floatation on top!
                          Emily

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the fun!

                            Emily-- that was funny!

                            T.ed-- your post made me think of a recent (2005) Eric Carle storybook (children's author)-- called 10 Little Rubber Ducks based on a newspaper article he had read. Here's a review:

                            "The inspiration for Eric Carle's new book 10 Little Rubber Ducks came from the true story of a shipment of rubber ducks and other bathtub toys that fell overboard and washed up on shores all around the world. Illustrated in his painted tissue paper collage, 10 Little Rubber Ducks is told in simple, rhythmic language and bright, colorful pictures that capture the magical voyage of a group of rubber ducks lost at sea and their encounters with creatures who live in and around the ocean. A tender ending that includes a surprise will satisfy readers of all ages." (Reviews)

                            When I first read about it, I thought it was such fun to think of!

                            Thanks for sharing!
                            71 and plugging along... but having some problems
                            2007 52° w/ severe lumbar stenosis & L2L3 lateral listhesis (side shift)
                            5/4/07 posterior fusion T2-L4 w/ laminectomies and osteotomies @L2L3, L3L4
                            Dr. Kim Hammerberg, Rush Univ. Medical Center in Chicago

                            Corrected to 15°
                            CMT (type 2) DX in 2014, progressing
                            10/2018 x-rays - spondylolisthesis at L4/L5 - Dr. DeWald is monitoring

                            Click to view my pics: pics of scoli x-rays digital x-rays, and pics of me

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                            • #15
                              Emily

                              Flotation is a good thing! I try not to think about it too much, as it can get me into trouble.


                              Ed
                              Last edited by titaniumed; 06-20-2008, 02:30 PM.
                              49 yr old male, now 63, the new 64...
                              Pre surgery curves T70,L70
                              ALIF/PSA T2-Pelvis 01/29/08, 01/31/08 7" pelvic anchors BMP
                              Dr Brett Menmuir St Marys Hospital Reno,Nevada

                              Bending and twisting pics after full fusion
                              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/showt...on.&highlight=

                              My x-rays
                              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...2&d=1228779214

                              http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/attac...3&d=1228779258

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