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briarrose
05-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Well, my surgery is on Tuesday morning and I think I'm ready to go. My bag is packed (I'm sure I packed too much), my house is in order, meals are prepared, etc. I'm bored now as I don't have much to do.

I received the authorization notification for my surgery this morning from my insurance company and was surprised what was on the list of things that were planning on being done as I have never heard of some of them:
Laminotomy w/ decompress nerve root, one interspace, lumbar and other tissue grafts, laminectomy facetectomy, and foraminotomy lumbar

I guess there's a lot more that goes on than I realize or it's just fancy medical jargon.

I did have some questions: Did you bring your purse with you to the hospital or just a wallet with identification? What do you do for the hour and a half before the scheduled surgery? I really want to be drugged as soon as I step in the building so I don't start crying a lot.
Will someone notify my family as to how the procedure is going?

Thanks,

Shell

Susie*Bee
05-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Sorry you're bored... but you've got some things you're doing tomorrow and Monday, right?

I didn't get anything like that from my insurance company... so that's interesting.

I didn't take a purse-- just had my ID and insurance card, and then my husband took those after I was done with them. Let's see if I remember much about that morning... you check-in, then they take you back and do some vitals and stuff like that, changed into a hospital gown and put on surgical stockings (and they had a bag for you to put your shoes and clothes in, and my husband got that), went to the bathroom "one last time", and after a little while, I said a final good-bye to hubby somewhere during all this, and then I went to a big pre-op room with many beds in it, and one of those beds became "mine"--- the anesthesiologist came and talked to me and probably started something, and then the neurologist (?) came and talked and put little electrode things all over me. They both explained things very carefully so I would understand what they were doing, but I don't remember now! I do remember being asked questions, but right now don't remember what they were. But I think some were who I was, what surgery I was having, when my birthday was, and stuff like that. Right about at this point I don't remember much of anything-- little flashes of memory every once in awhile. Sometimes I think some of those flashes I mix up with the time I had surgery when I was 20 and in the OR... so it's all kind of a confused jumble of sorts. The only time I felt weepy (and didn't actually cry--or I don't think I did) was when I said good-bye to my hubby. The rest of it-- I felt like maybe I'd forget to do something right (putting clothes in bag), get lost going to the bathroom (I did, but it was ok!!! :rolleyes: someone just showed me the way back), and was a little nervous, but also felt the Lord was with me and it was alright. You'll do fine, Shell. Try to remember so you can share better than I can! :)

terri watkins
05-24-2008, 09:56 PM
My son will have his surgery on Tuesday as well.... They had rescheduled it as of Thursday due to a abnormal coagulation lab. I finally got in touch with the Dr by email this am and he said surgery was still on go for Tuesday and that they would just have platelets on hand and use a drug called Amicar for aid in clotting (which scares me to death)... I wish they would drug both my son and myself when we walk through the doors of the hospital...I hope to see you on the forum in a couple of weeks or so, doing really well and that we can swap "How fast we're healing stories" Good Luck! I will remember you in prayer along with my son.

txmarinemom
05-24-2008, 10:54 PM
I did have some questions: Did you bring your purse with you to the hospital or just a wallet with identification? What do you do for the hour and a half before the scheduled surgery? I really want to be drugged as soon as I step in the building so I don't start crying a lot.
Will someone notify my family as to how the procedure is going?


Shell, honestly, I brought my purse and never needed it.

The time between arrival and surgery will pass so quickly you'll never look back and think "That felt like an hour and a half.".

There are attendants (volunteers) at most hospitals in the surgical waiting rooms who will either call your family (ask them), or take calls from your family and give out info as you've approved.

Hang in there, babe. You're almost there.

Regards,
Pam

debbei
05-25-2008, 05:40 AM
you will be in my prayers.

Singer
05-25-2008, 07:52 AM
Best of luck, Shell!!

Take your purse to the hospital, then give it to whoever's with you as you're getting prepped for the big event. I was very weepy before surgery -- they're used to that!!!

briarrose
05-25-2008, 08:39 AM
Thanks for the responses and encouragement everyone! I just can't believe this is happening in 2 days. It doesn't seem real at all. I hate crying in front of people and I don't want to make a scene. Did you speak to your surgeon before the surgery?

Geish
05-25-2008, 09:05 AM
I must be really weird...I never had a moments worry or panic. I was so excited I could hardly wait!
I actually only had a short wait before they took me back to pre-op. I had to say my goodbyes before I left the waiting area. Not a single tear was shed by me, but I know it was very hard on my girls. They were there with their dad but I know it was still very difficult for them to let me just walk away from them. My oldest was terrified I wouldn't return. The hospital made a point of calling my girls(the ex wasn't allowed to have that info as far as I was concerned.) a few times with updates. I gave my ID to my girls and the hospital gave them my bag of clothes.

Pre op went too slow for me...again I couldn't wait! I think I was the only one back there that wasn't nervous. I think it made the hospital staff nervous because I was so chipper! :D They still made me take the drugs for the nervousness though. Lots of prep work goes on back there, everyone and his brother comes by to make sure you are really you and which surgery you are having. Leads are attached and lovely compression socks go on your legs. IV's are started and the surgeon comes and talks to you. Lucky me I got Luigi too! :D He's the adorable PA and just too fun to mess with.

The next thing I knew after talking to my surgeon was waking up in recovery then I don't remember being moved to my room, but I do remember seeing my family. And wanting lots and lots of ice chips! I couldn't get enough. Then when Luigi and Dr Ganocy came in to check on me I cried when I saw I had a flat tummy because I was "de-smooshed".

It's going to be great. Really it is.
Alicia

txmarinemom
05-25-2008, 10:42 AM
Like Geish, I was SO excited the morning of surgery - and relieved the waiting was almost over! (plus, I was really, *really* tired of maniacal pre-op preparations! ;-)

(I did have a nagging feeling I'd forgotten to do/buy something I was going to REALLY need at the house - LOL - but by then, I'd kinda said "Screw it. If I did, someone can do/buy it for me later!".)

The pre-op for me passed pretty quickly: As soon as I arrived at the hospital, the nursing station directed me down to a private room to put on a gown and my pretty paper party hat ;-). I'd requested a private room, and I vividly recall looking at the room (apparently last decorated in the 70's sometime) and thinking "Please tell me this is not MY room!" ... (it wasn't).

My Mom and brother were running about 10 minutes behind me because they'd had to park (I just jumped out at the hospital entrance), and by the time they found me, a nurse was already there asking all the typical pre-op questions.

We could NOT stop laughing because she tried in vain for maybe 20 minutes to get a viable pregnancy test (she swore she only needed 4 drops - and of COURSE I'd just gone before she walked in ;-). I managed to get her 4 drops (and not one drop more!), but the test was inconclusive. I'd already told her I had my tubes tied 18 years prior (at 21) to no avail. I vaguely remember my Mom inhaling a sharp breath when I told her "Come ON. Last I recall, you actually need to have like, um, SEX for that to happen, right?".

She moved on to the next phase of her questions.

It seems like maybe only 10 minutes later before they were wheeling me down the hall towards the operatories. I got the giggles *again* because here were all these identically dressed patients (on identical beds) staggered along the hall like the starting line of a race.

Anesthesiology came by and got my IV started and asked a few questions. Hanson's P.A. (John) also came by, a surgical nurse stopped by to verify the basic stuff (like I was the right person, having the right surgery ... details, details!), as did one of the residents who'd be assisting (I think she is the whole who took quite a few of my surgery photos).

I saw some guy in scrubs walking around holding these metal "L" shaped things and I asked him "Hey! Are those rod benders?". He came over with a funny look and said "How do you know that? No one's ever asked that!" (little did he know I'd already seen several posterior surgeries on the Internet - heh). I replied "I think they're for me!", and he said (pointing out the room I was parked by) "Well, that's where you're going, then" ...

(... the point of all this is there are sooooo many people running around, talking to you, asking you questions, etc., you really don't have time to be worried. They know people are likely to be nervous, and they deliberately talk and joke to keep you occupied, I think ;-)

It wasn't long before Hanson stopped by. He wiggled his eyebrows at me, smiled and asked "How ya doin'?". We discussed a few things (mainly "Is my Vancomycin in there?" and I reminded him "no dissolvable stitches"), and he told me after more consideration, he *really* wanted to take up to T4 (I was originally slated for T5-L1).

(This was only partly to prevent decompensation: My main issue was pain - and a lot of that was neck pain *above* the curve. He thought we'd have a better chance addressing my neck issues - two 3mm disc protrusions at C5/C6 - C6/C7 - if he went that extra level.)

I said "Yah, whatever. T4, T5 ... what's the difference, really?". Now if he'd told me L2 vs. L1, I really think I'd have backed out. I also don't think he would have dropped that on me the morning of surgery (he knew how crazy concerned I was with losing flexibility).

After laughingly asking me if I'd completed my list(s), he patted my arm and said "Okay, then ... they'll get you set up in a few, and it'll be over before you know it. I don't anticipate anything out of the ordinary, and you're going to be fine!".

All this seemed to pass so quickly I'd guess it was 20-30 minutes, but from what others told me, surgery didn't actually begin (but I had to be positioned, scrubbed, intubated, etc. - all things they did after they knocked me out) until about 1 to 1-1/2 hours after they took me from the room.

I did have one split second as they wheeled me down to the "starting line" where the magnitude of what was about to happen - but more so, the unknown of how I'd be afterwards - hit me. I'd liken it in duration and feeling to your tummy dropping on a roller coaster. It came quickly and passed quickly.

Next thing I remembered was waking up (in no real pain to speak of, BTW) in MY private room. I was only in PACU for a very short period (less than an hour), and remember none of it. My Mom said something about my daughter, Larra, and I never even knew she'd been there. Afterwards, Larra told me in that tone only 18 year olds can manage, "Mommmmm, you were talking to me and even laughing at my jokes!". Yeah, well ... sorry, kiddo. Mommy was apparently pretty stoned! ;-)

(Now THIS is making me laugh as I remember someone posting here how the nurses woke them up post-op by loudly saying "Mom!" - hehe ... a dirty trick, but effective!)

Trust your surgeon, Shell ... you're going to do great. Sending lots of good thoughts your way, and looking forward to seeing you post from the other side!

Best regards,
Pam

loves to skate
05-25-2008, 11:28 AM
Hi Shell,
Considering how nervous I was weeks before my surgery, I was at total peace the day of surgery. I know God was with me and I had a great surgeon. I can't add much to what everyone else has said. At the Baptist, they have a nurse liason checking in with the family about how you are doing in surgery. The time getting you ready for the surgery will pass very quickly, and the nurses and Dr.s are very kind and gentle, and I bet you won't even cry. God Bless, and I will be praying for you. Sally

Susie*Bee
05-25-2008, 02:50 PM
Really, Shell, I too was way more excited than anxious during the pre-op preparations. It was kind of an exhilarating feeling. And I really felt at peace with it all, and knew the Lord was there with me. As someone said, the time goes by fairly quickly... you'll be fine. Other than the split-second when I said good-bye to my husband, I never felt like crying. It was more like anticipation of Christmas as a kid, and wondering how it would go...

My surgeon's regular nurse updated my husband about half way through the surgery with how it was going and how far they were, and then the surgeon called and talked to him after it was all over. You can double check on them notifying your husband when you get there Tuesday morning, but there should be no problem. Big hugs, Susie

connier815
05-25-2008, 04:16 PM
Hi Shell,
Just wanted to send you thoughts, prayers and lots of hugs. This time next week we'll be hearing about how great you're doing!
Connie

Chihuahua Mama
05-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Thanks for the responses and encouragement everyone! I just can't believe this is happening in 2 days. It doesn't seem real at all. I hate crying in front of people and I don't want to make a scene.

Shell, you are going to do great! And don't worry about getting emotional or weepy - I expect that's pretty common after weeks or months of anticipation then the final *big* day is here...no one will think any less of you, it's just the emotion of it all working it's way out.

Good job on all the work you did - now it's time for the doctor to do his. I'll be praying for you for a quick recovery.

Isn't it wonderful we can even get our backs fixed?? I constantly think about the fact that scoliosis surgery has come so far in the last 30 years....and we are going to be better than ever because of it.

Happy Surgery!

dealornodeal
05-25-2008, 08:50 PM
:) Shell, you will be just fine. I too received that authorization from the insurance company and was shocked at all the many procedures were included in my spinal fusion and laminectomy. The night before surgery I was up until 2AM trying to "not forget to do anything" and making sure everything was completed for my mom/son especially the contact list and making sure I didn't forget to pay any bills. I had to be at the hospital at 5:30. I checked in with the nurses station at 5:30, then had about a 20 minute wait in the waiting room. I was then taken back to the pre-surgical center which was a private room where I was given the hospital gown, put my clothes in the plastic bag etc.

My main "issue" was in trying to get the IV's set up and that was drama of about another 20 minutes. I met with my surgeon, his assistant and the anestesiologist and after about a total of 1.5 hours and saying goodbye to my mom again, the last thing I remembered was the anestesilogist saying I'll be right back and I woke up in the recovery room.

I'll be praying for you on Tuesday and look forward to your victory reports.

Take Care,

LJ

briarrose
05-26-2008, 07:33 AM
This forum has been amazing. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share their stories. They were all very comforting. I cried a lot last night, but I'm feeling ok this morning except that I have a sore throat! Does that mean I won't be able to have the surgery? I haven't been sick at all for a year and 3 months and of course today I have a sore throat.

One more question- Did you wear any make-up or bring make-up to the hospital? I'm assuming not, but it's hard for me to be seen in public without my face on. Haha

Thanks again for all of the thoughts and prayers.

Shell

Susie*Bee
05-26-2008, 08:17 AM
You won't be able to wear any make-up for the surgery... you have to be scrubbed thoroughly, every inch-- I got to do that on my own, before getting there, but using anti-bacterial soap. I doubt if you'll feel like dealing with make-up afterward, and I don't know if they'll want you to wear it. Sometimes they want to see your true "color." I guess you could take it in case you can and in case you feel like it. ;)

Hope the sore throat isn't anything much. Maybe it's from the little crying last night. I'm praying for you, Shell. Take care!

debbei
05-26-2008, 09:46 AM
This forum has been amazing. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share their stories. They were all very comforting. I cried a lot last night, but I'm feeling ok this morning except that I have a sore throat! Does that mean I won't be able to have the surgery? I haven't been sick at all for a year and 3 months and of course today I have a sore throat.

One more question- Did you wear any make-up or bring make-up to the hospital? I'm assuming not, but it's hard for me to be seen in public without my face on. Haha

Thanks again for all of the thoughts and prayers.

Shell

Do you have allergies? Allergy sore throats are common this time of year. Good luck with the surgery. I'll be praying for you and looking for your update!

briarrose
05-26-2008, 10:40 AM
Hi Debbei,

Thanks for mentioning the allergies. I do have allergies so hopefully that's all it is. I've been sucking on cough drops hoping it will go away. I feel fine otherwise.

Susie - Thanks for the make-up suggestions. I'm going to take some powder and blush with me, but I doubt I'll use it. I know I'm going to look the absolute worst I've ever looked which bothers me, especially when visitors are coming by.

Shell

Geish
05-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Shell,
I promise you, you wont care how you look. Not even for a minute. My PA even let me know I had something on my lip...I dont think he expected me to respond "So, now I am not attractive? What are you saying?". He really didn't know what to think of me. But really you won't care.

txmarinemom
05-26-2008, 01:14 PM
Laff ... soooooooo true, Geish. Shell, you really will NOT care - trust me. I just avoided mirrors - LOL. Much easier!

Don't stress over the sore throat unless you're running a fever, hon. If you've been crying a lot, the drainage alone can irritate your throat.

You're in my thoughts - and I know you're going to do great. Like all of us, you'll find you're much more brave than you think!

Regards,
Pam

JoAnn5
05-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Susie*Bee nailed it for me too. That's exactly my experience. The one time i got weepy was when I had to remove my wedding band. I'd never had it off my hand in 35 yrs of marriage. My hubby put his finger touching mine, and I slid it right from my hand onto his and he never removed it until i was back in my room and he slipped it right back on in the same way. He's a pretty good fellow, I must say. :)

Chihuahua Mama
05-26-2008, 02:12 PM
My hubby put his finger touching mine, and I slid it right from my hand onto his and he never removed it until i was back in my room and he slipped it right back on in the same way.

Sniff, sniff....that's one of the most romantic things I've ever heard.

Thanks for that, JoAnn.

Susie*Bee
05-26-2008, 03:03 PM
Shell-- don't worry about how you'll look. It's all part of the way others know how we're feeling... if we looked perky and like nothing was different than usual, do you think they'd get it???? (And treat us with due respect?!!!) So, because of all the meds and foggy brains and feeling like it doesn't matter in the big picture, it's appropriate not to look our best. :rolleyes: You'll have just been through a huge surgery, and no one will expect you to have make up on or hair done. That would make it look like a piece of cake. Anyone who cares enough to come visit you will not be judging you on your appearance. They'll be concerned with how you're doing. :) So relax about that part. I don't think you got a single post to the contrary... everyone said you won't care, and that's because none of us cared. i didn't even care how long it had been since I'd brushed my teeth or anything! :eek: Although after it was mentioned to me, on about day 3 I think, I realized "oh yeah, I suppose I ought to try ..." but I really didn't want to. :rolleyes: OK? You'll look fine-- just like someone who's been through a very major surgery. I've got some pretty funny looking pics of me from in the hospital.

Geish
05-26-2008, 05:17 PM
Susie*Bee

I can't even remember if I brushed my teeth at the hospital! Something tells me I didn't but OMG I have no idea! See how much I cared? :D

Susie*Bee
05-26-2008, 05:57 PM
Alicia-- I was just thinking "why did I post that about not brushing my teeth? Everyone will think I'm a real grunge..." So your post made me feel tons better. Actually, it wouldn't have even occurred to me at all if whomever (staff) hadn't said I should try brushing my teeth... And no one ever said anything about my hair. :eek: At least by about day 8 I wanted to try to shampoo that... It was just so gross and I was realizing it by then! ;)

See Shell-- you won't care about make-up. Not right away.

briarrose
05-26-2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks everyone. Though I can't imagine not caring about looking gross (I'm not a vain person, I just like to look presentable) I'll take everyone's word for it.

I took a lorazepam about 6 hours ago and I'll probably be taking another one soon. I just couldn't get hold of my emotions. I feel better on it. My husband was laughing at me because I kept saying things backwards. This is just so crazy! I keep assuming that I'm walking to my death in 12 hours. I'm such an optimist :rolleyes:

debbei
05-26-2008, 08:19 PM
Susie*Bee nailed it for me too. That's exactly my experience. The one time i got weepy was when I had to remove my wedding band. I'd never had it off my hand in 35 yrs of marriage. My hubby put his finger touching mine, and I slid it right from my hand onto his and he never removed it until i was back in my room and he slipped it right back on in the same way. He's a pretty good fellow, I must say. :)

That is so SWEET!! You do have a good one there!!

debbei
05-26-2008, 08:25 PM
Thanks everyone. Though I can't imagine not caring about looking gross (I'm not a vain person, I just like to look presentable) I'll take everyone's word for it.

I took a lorazepam about 6 hours ago and I'll probably be taking another one soon. I just couldn't get hold of my emotions. I feel better on it. My husband was laughing at me because I kept saying things backwards. This is just so crazy! I keep assuming that I'm walking to my death in 12 hours. I'm such an optimist :rolleyes:

Briarrose,

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I'm 46 now. I think that no matter what, at 26, you'll look a lot better after surgery than I will. Really :D

I understand your thoughts about what will happen in 12 hours, and I'm sure I will be thinking the same way when my time comes. But I know, I just know you will be just fine. After all, how could you not when you have all of us thinking positive thoughts about your surgery? You take care sweetie.

samsmom
05-26-2008, 08:28 PM
Hi Briarrose,

Sending lots of good wishes your way. I would mention the sore throat to the doctors but I am sure it is not a deal breaker. Maybe just allergies?? I would say skip the make-up in the am, but hey, if it makes you feel good, what the heck!

Good Luck!

txmarinemom
05-26-2008, 11:11 PM
Gotta post good wishes behind Samsmom (my surgery date twinner's Mom) ...

You're scared, Shell ... it's okay. LOOK at all the people who are thinking about you *now*, and will be thinking about you alllllllllll day tomorrow.

We're a formidable bunch, sugar! ;-)

Looking forward to good news SOON!

Regards,
Pam

CHRIS WBS
05-28-2008, 11:57 AM
I must be really weird...I never had a moments worry or panic. I was so excited I could hardly wait!

Alicia,

Can you please send me some of your weirdness? When I had a top Chicago surgeon tell me (after I asked him if this is the worst surgery anyone can undergo) that he would rank it second to amputation, excitement at the thought of going through this isn’t exactly the emotion I’m feeling.

BTW, I had my stress test this morning and when the technician asked me what this was for and I told him, his eyes widened with this look of horror as he said “you mean that surgery with the rods?” This surgery certainly has a spine-tingling stigma attached to it.

debbei
05-28-2008, 02:06 PM
when the technician asked me what this was for and I told him, his eyes widened with this look of horror as he said “you mean that surgery with the rods?” This surgery certainly has a spine-tingling stigma attached to it.



Someone should SMACK that guy!!! What the heck is the matter with people, especially in the healthcare field, for getting someone worked up when they are clearly worried already.

txmarinemom
05-28-2008, 02:29 PM
... I had a top Chicago surgeon tell me (after I asked him if this is the worst surgery anyone can undergo) that he would rank it second to amputation, excitement at the thought of going through this isn’t exactly the emotion I’m feeling.

BTW, I had my stress test this morning and when the technician asked me what this was for and I told him, his eyes widened with this look of horror as he said “you mean that surgery with the rods?” This surgery certainly has a spine-tingling stigma attached to it.

I find that EITHER said that ridiculous, but *especially* the surgeon! SECOND worst to AMPUTATION?

How very negative and misleading to post that here, Chris. There are a lot of scared people here AND people who *know* that statement is sh**.

How do you manage to ALWAYS miss the positive things? That's just sad. Attitude has *everything* to do with recovery.

I'm fuming here. That is quite possibly the most irresponsible thing I've seen you post. EVER.

Chihuahua Mama
05-28-2008, 03:08 PM
**I'd rather have the amputation - very straightforward is that surgery and it certainly doesn't take 9 hours, which ranks spine fusion surgery as the worst. Great, just great.**

The above is exactly what I thought when I read that. My surgery is two weeks from Monday and I am trying to be a Big Girl about it. It's hard though, reading something like that...and amps the terror factor to 10. It takes a very long time...days sometimes, to talk myself down from those terror attacks. So I'm trying to keep the terror attacks to a minimum.

Debbei hit the nail on the head "when people are clearly worried about it already" - that was a nice way of putting it.

Chris - I can say without a shadow of a doubt that normally, I can whip myself to worry frenzy better than anyone else can. I am my own worst enemy. Don't do that to yourself - be your own best friend. Try to look for the positive in this surgery - for me it means walking my dog again. I can't freaking wait to do that! It is my compass for measuring success and if 4 of the 5 surgeons I saw told me I could run in a race after surgery? I'm going to believe them.

I'm just trying to say don't scare yourself!

Best,
Susan

Susie*Bee
05-28-2008, 03:28 PM
Try to calm down, everyone. I didn't take Chris' post quite like some of you did, but I'm on the other side of the surgery. I was feeling her anguish when I read it. Susan and Debbe-- and Chris too-- just look at the sheer numbers of us post-op people on the forum and please realize that this is a do-able surgery. It is also a tough one. If I can get through it ok, you can too. Just keep telling yourselves that and try not to freak out too much.

It's unfortunate that the technician and surgeon made those statements. Let's leave it at that, if possible.

I know that I do not regret going through this surgery and recovery, and I doubt very much if you will either. Just think-- you will be straighter and probably taller, you won't be having continued curve progression and all its worries, and you will be a stronger person in general. It will all work out. Keep the faith!

trulyaries
05-28-2008, 03:30 PM
Chris WBS -
Those statements are absurd! I can't imagine any doctor, surgeon, technician, nurse I have ever had contact with saying something like that. Where do you find these people?? Are you sure you aren't hearing, seeing, encouraging or projecting your own feelings?

It's obvious from many of your posts that you are extremely fearful and a real "Debbie Downer" (from Saturday Night Live) about your surgery. It's unfortunate that you feel compelled to post comments like this and feed the fears of others who are facing surgery for the first time.

For whatever it's worth, I have had four back surgeries and I'll take those over an amputation any day! Amputation indeed!! :mad:

CHRIS WBS
05-28-2008, 04:08 PM
That surgeon made that remark to me based on his recommendation to fuse my spine from T2 to the sacrum in anterior and posterior surgeries. He made no bones about it…it would be rough as hell. And that’s when I asked him if this is the worst surgery. And while I most certainly did not like what I heard, I appreciated his candor. There’s the psychological trauma of having to adapt to a permanently altered body; and given the emotional element of this surgery, this particular surgeon includes a psychiatrist on his staff to counsel his patients before and after surgery.

And as for the technician, he did do a number on me with his look and comment. My blood pressure shot through the roof.

txmarinemom
05-28-2008, 04:45 PM
That surgeon made that remark to me based on his recommendation to fuse my spine from T2 to the sacrum in anterior and posterior surgeries. He made no bones about it…it would be rough as hell. And that’s when I asked him if this is the worst surgery. And while I most certainly did not like what I heard, I appreciated his candor. There’s the psychological trauma of having to adapt to a permanently altered body; and given the emotional element of this surgery, this particular surgeon includes a psychiatrist on his staff to counsel his patients before and after surgery.

And as for the technician, he did do a number on me with his look and comment. My blood pressure shot through the roof.

I still do NOT Understand why you think that negativity belongs here when we have newbies close to surgery barely hanging on.

And furthermore, I'm with Felicia ... where do you find these people??? The technician was just a technician - and an idiot at that. I'd LOVE to know the name of this top surgeon, however ... remind me to remind people to stay away from him.

Just like you made the blanket statement "Pashman says A/P's are better", (that's just silly when not everyone NEEDS them), you take the most extreme, most negative, and apply it across the board - with a LARGE brush.

You haven't even HAD surgery and you want to even *broach* psychological trauma of a "permanently altered body"? Please. All you do is toss out non-contextual quips from various surgeons ... none of which fits EVERYONE, but are always credible to you because *a surgeon* said it.

And I suspect more than a few post-ops will take umbrage, Susie*Bee.

I'd suggest some positivity, Chris, or you're in for a LONG ride.

Wishing
05-28-2008, 06:56 PM
Dear ChrisWBS,

I can understand the negative thoughts you're having. As many on the forum have described the roller coaster ride they have before the surgery. I,too, have ups and downs but I try to push away any negative thoughts and concentrate on the positive. Keep the faith. Just think that the pain is something we go through for a wonderful result. And there are much better pain management medications available now. I have had health care professionals in the past make some insensitive statements to me in an apparent attempt to be supportive; they obviously had no experience dealing with these issues on a personal level. You just have to stay grounded. You have a wonderful surgeon and have researched this surgery to the nth degree.
Good luck to you Chris. Before too long, you will be posting your success story.
Rita

Geish
05-28-2008, 07:03 PM
I still say I never had a moments panic, doubt or worry. I was so happy that "something" could be done to make me better that it really wouldn't have mattered what they told me. By the time the surgery rolled around my poor ol body had had it. It was crumpled, smooshed and in pain all of the time. When I made the decision (in July, 5 months prior to surgery) I was still feeling pretty good. I had ambition and was preparing to play Ms Hannigan in Annie in my town. By November I was just too damn tired and I know now that the role would have wiped me out. I went down hill rather quickly there towards the end. So when I say I was excited it wasn't thrilling by any means, but I was sure happy that soon it would all be over and I could move forward with my life and my new back.

Suzy
05-28-2008, 08:30 PM
O.K. I have calmed down a bit after first reading your post, CHRIS WBS. I will personally call the surgeon who told you this ranks 2nd to amputation. That isn't candor, that is crap. Do you have the nerve to post his name IF in fact that is what was said to you?? I have a feeling that this isn't true. If it is, then no wonder he has psychiatrist's on the staff!! Still I want to call him, give up his name. As for the tech, that is ignorance speaking. I had an x-ray tech tell me "I would never have that surgery." I asked if she even knew what scoliosis surgery was all about. She did not have a clue.

"Psychological trauma of a Permanently altered body" you have got to be kidding... Do you have it in you to EVER post something positive? Of course your body is permanently altered. Does a straightened spine not appeal to you?

Susie-bee, I know you tend to stand up for CHRIS WBS but you have not had to put up with all the negative posts she CONSTANTLY writes for as long as some of us have. Why not take some time to read back just how many non-helpful, negative, poor me posts she has made in the past. I think even you might just have to agree with those of us sick of it all.

Even if YOUR own surgery and recovery were to go flawlessly, CHRIS WBS, there is no way you would EVER post about it. You seem to hunt out the worst of everything. You seriously need to change your forum name to Debbie downer it fits you to a tee. I wish we could vote you off the forum.

Susie*Bee
05-29-2008, 10:01 AM
I still say I never had a moments panic, doubt or worry. I was so happy that "something" could be done to make me better that it really wouldn't have mattered what they told me. By the time the surgery rolled around my poor ol body had had it. It was crumpled, smooshed and in pain all of the time. When I made the decision (in July, 5 months prior to surgery) I was still feeling pretty good. I had ambition and was preparing to play Ms Hannigan in Annie in my town. By November I was just too damn tired and I know now that the role would have wiped me out. I went down hill rather quickly there towards the end. So when I say I was excited it wasn't thrilling by any means, but I was sure happy that soon it would all be over and I could move forward with my life and my new back.
Alicia-- your story is such an inspiration for this surgery. Thanks so much for posting this... I am so happy that you are now back to being in musicals!!! Yay for Morgan la Fey! I'm so glad you got a fun role in Camelot! :cool:

mariaf
05-29-2008, 10:05 AM
I have to put my two cents in here. I usually only have time to peruse the threads regarding kids where I think I can help, etc. but somehow I stumbled on this one.

As the mother of a child with scoliosis who hopefully will not need fusion - but for whom it IS a possibility later on in life, I find those statements shocking, appalling and inexcusable. How could ANYONE say or repeat them???!!! What purpose does it serve????

I am involved in several scolisis-related sites (co-moderator of one) and I speak to LOTS of parents, many whose kids have had fusion. I realize there can be a difference in recovery rates, etc. between kids and adults. HOWEVER I have found that no two surgeries are quite the same. One friend of mine has a daughter who is about 5 weeks post op and she has had a great recovery - in fact she is "enjoying" her time at home. Even when I spoke to mom in the hospital, the pain was well under control and there were no horror stories to be told because they just didn't exist. Another mom whose child had fusion recently told me her child described the pain (just a day or two post-op) as "annoying" rather than excrutiating.

All that being said, WHAT WOULD POSSESS ANYONE TO COMPARE FUSION TO AN AMPUTATION OR ACT AS IF IT IS SHEER TORTURE??? What good can come out of someone going into surgeries petrified and with a negative attitude????

I also believe that going in with a very POSITIVE attitude (as my friend and her daughter did and as Pam also did) does have a POSITIVE effect on recovery - it certainly can't hurt.

I hope the moderators here delete what was posted above before someone reads it and jumps off a building or something, God forbid.

Irresponsible to say the least!!!

txmarinemom
05-29-2008, 10:15 AM
I'm with Suzy ... I want that doctor named HERE. I also intend to call and confirm he's telling patients this drivel.

IF it's true, I'm filing a complaint to the Illinois state board - and if he's SRS, they'll get the same. This doctor isn't "candid", he's incompetent.

Who *was* this (in your opinion) "top surgeon", Chris WBS?

And, yeah, Maria ... heaven forbid what future readers will glean from this thread. I'm still fuming over this sh** today.