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  • My Curves and My Chiro.

    Hello All,

    I am fairly new to this forum. I found it searching online trying to find out info on scoliosis. I have just been diagnosed 2 weeks ago. Last week I had xrays and this week I am begining my time at the chiropractor. I heard the Osteopath only helps for the pain, so i didn't go there. I may stop by to see the difference in opinions etc from the chiro.

    My chosen chiropractor is one my family and friends have been seeing for years (not for the same problem though), so I know she is good at what she does.

    I have 2 curves, at stage 2 scoliosis and after looking and discussing xrays, I had my first session at the chiropractor. Wow, It hurt more than I expected. I will be re xrayed in one years time and see how it looks and how i feel over time.

    I am starting a thread after reading everyone's mixed views about chiropractors and people's stories about curves changing in such a short time after the chiro... yes everyone is a bit sceptical, me too, but now i will see for my self. I don't expect things to change and to have a great straight spine, i am hoping to just keep my back moving and not as tight as it is at the moment & learning proper posture etc. Those who are not having any surgery don't really have much options, just excercises such as yoga, pilates, swimming etc.. So we'll see how this goes people!

  • #2
    hmm...

    If your family have seen same chiro many times it sounds like that chiro don't know how to help them...

    I was a chronic pain patient who saw tens of docs and PTs during my 15 years of pains. I had many X-rays, MRIs, blood and pee tests. They found no reason for my pains. No-one told me I had anything wrong in my pelvis that might cause my short leg, scoliosis, bad posture and my many pains and problems. They told me to get a heel lift to balance my posture. But they told me my short leg has nothing to do with my pains... It was 25 years ago when one doc said my left foot is shorter and I have bad posture.

    I had tens of times pt, chiropractor, naprapath, acupuncture and massage treatments. Those gave me some help for a short time, like day or two. Then the pains and problems came back. I paid thousands of dollars to them...

    Then finally after 15 years of suffering I met one PT who knew how to help me. No more headaches, no more ischias, no more back pains, no more leg weakness, no more TOS and no more bad posture!!!

    They all came from one place: my pelvis! It was misaligned. Pelvis is the foundation of your skeleton. If it is twisted, the whole body is twisted and that's why my spine was hypermobile and in curves (scoliosis). And those cause pinced nerves and tight muscles that prevent blood circulation.

    After my pelvis was corrected with an easy manipulation treatment and spinal subluxations "opened" I felt fine! And one treatment was enough... that was over a year ago. I have a new life now!

    And I know many patients who have same problem as I do and their stories are about the same: no-one understands pelvis!

    Some stories...

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    • #3
      I am currently seeing an osetopath and he has been very helpful. Unlike Chiropractors, Osteopaths are fully licensed physicians who are authorized to prescribe medication and perform surgery. You might consider trying an osteopath and seeing what you think

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      • #4
        Expatient - I am happy your problems have been solved!

        Faldaste - I have an appointment with a GREAT one next week!

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        • #5
          osteopath?

          My family physician is an osteopath --a great guy--but was no help with scoliosis. He didn't even suggest I get the help I desperately needed at the time. He just ordered heart and breathing tests. He specializes in Family Practice.

          They are NOT chiropractors and I do not even know if they use any manipulation therapy. Never seen it. My understanding is that osteopaths take a more wholistic view of the body in medical school. Many osteopaths called "DO"-- doctor of osteopathy-- work as specialists, with the appropriate residencies after medical school. I know osteopaths who are :anesthesiologists, cardiologists, OB/GYN,
          as well as orthopedists(that could include an adult scoliosis specialist) with the correct training. They attend a 4 year medical school with the same privileges as MDs.
          Original scoliosis surgery 1956 T-4 to L-2 ~100 degree thoracic (triple)curves at age 14. NO hardware-lost correction.
          Anterior/posterior revision T-4 to Sacrum in 2002, age 60, by Dr. Boachie-Adjei @Hospital for Special Surgery, NY = 50% correction

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          • #6
            My scoli specialist is a DO. I think he is the greatest. I know that he is more willing to try other things such as PT or Chiro before he goes straight to the more potent pain meds for pain control. (I am not talking about right after surgery or anything and this is not in place of surgery).

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            • #7
              Hi Mandy...

              I can't remember, have you ever mentioned the name of your surgeon? If not, will you?

              Thanks.

              Regards,
              Linda
              Never argue with an idiot. They always drag you down to their level, and then they beat you with experience. --Twain
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              Surgery 2/10/93 A/P fusion T4-L3
              Surgery 1/20/11 A/P fusion L2-sacrum w/pelvic fixation

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              • #8
                I dont know if I have or not. I go to Dr. David Siambanes at the Haider Spine Center in Riverside, California. There are MD's and a DO (Dr. Siambanes) there. They have Orthopedists, Pain Management, Occupational Medicine (I think that is what it is called) and other specialties there (PT, a Chiro, OT, MRI).

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                • #9
                  I am gathering (from your posts) that most of you are from the USA and i am not, so i don't know the similarities or difference between what/how long/etc Osteo/Chiro's must study in both countries or any differences that exist concerning this stuff between countries.. but anyhow...

                  I went to the Osteo today.

                  It was good and it hurt less than chiro! It was very different to the Chiro.
                  Osteo's have a different approach and don't really think manipulation is a good thing, whereas I think Chiro's beleive that it is.

                  I have decided to continue with Osteo instead of Chiro.

                  It is so hard to know what is the correct thing to do, as you cannot do both and see which works better, you must choose one!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karen Ocker
                    MThey are NOT chiropractors and I do not even know if they use any manipulation therapy.
                    Manipulation therapy is one component that osteopathic schools teach that allopathic schools don't. All the other requirements are the same. As far as I know, there used to be a wider gap of difference between DOs and MDs, but that gap has since pretty much disappeared.

                    I don't think many DOs practice manipulation once they graduate but about 60% do go into primary care with a focus on preventative medicine.
                    30 something y.o.

                    2003 - T45, L???
                    2005 - T50, L31
                    bunch of measurements between...

                    2011 - T60, L32
                    2013 - T68, L?

                    Posterior Fusion Sept 2014 -- T3 - L3
                    Post - op curve ~35


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Curvy01
                      I am gathering (from your posts) that most of you are from the USA and i am not, so i don't know the similarities or difference between what/how long/etc Osteo/Chiro's must study in both countries or any differences that exist concerning this stuff between countries.. but anyhow...
                      I worked at an osteo hospital for 10 years, they have exact same requirements as MD's (undergraduate degree and 4 years med school). I didn't notice a big difference in practice at all but they are taught a different philosophy in med school.

                      Originally posted by Curvy01
                      I went to the Osteo today.

                      It was good and it hurt less than chiro!

                      I'm curious, what did the osteo do for you? My daughter is going to a chiro but doesn't have any pain from adjustments.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Curvy01
                        I am gathering (from your posts) that most of you are from the USA and i am not, so i don't know the similarities or difference between what/how long/etc Osteo/Chiro's must study in both countries or any differences that exist concerning this stuff between countries.. but anyhow...

                        I went to the Osteo today.

                        It was good and it hurt less than chiro! It was very different to the Chiro.
                        Osteo's have a different approach and don't really think manipulation is a good thing, whereas I think Chiro's beleive that it is.

                        I have decided to continue with Osteo instead of Chiro.

                        It is so hard to know what is the correct thing to do, as you cannot do both and see which works better, you must choose one!
                        I'm from Canada. I did go to an Osteo for my neck after having surgery, and he helped so much the first two times. After that the pain came back with a vengeance and he advised- like a chiro I had seen- to stop seeing him, as it is usually advised after three visits if the pain comes back or doesn't go away at all. He just did some pressure points for about an hour.
                        35 y/old female from Montreal, Canada
                        Diagnosed with scoliosis(double major) at age 12, wore Boston brace 4 years at least 23 hours a day-curve progressed
                        Surgery age 26 for 60 degree curve in Oct. 1997 by Dr.Max Aebi-fused T5 to L2
                        Surgery age 28 for a hook removal in Feb. 1999 by Dr.Max Aebi-pain free for 5 years
                        Surgery age 34 in Dec.2005 for broken rod replacement, bigger screws and crosslinks added and pseudarthrosis(non union) by Dr. Jean Ouellet

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                        • #13
                          Sherie - PMed you

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                          • #14
                            Update...

                            Went to the Osteo again...
                            The manipulations weren't painful this time
                            A couple here and there, but all is fine.. Now just time will tell how i will feel in old age... me and my curves

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                            • #15
                              Update ---

                              Still going to the Osteo... seems to be working quite well. I pop in every couple of months =)

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