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SkyFish
06-30-2014, 04:22 AM
Newbie here. Thanks in advance for any advice!

I'm had scoliosis since I was 7 or 8 and am now 24. My mother pushed to have me in a brace and discussed surgery but the doctors never thought the curvature was bad enough. So far, nothing really hurts.

But my mom continues to worry, and to warn me that unless I pursue aggressive treatment now I'll be in severe pain as I age. I, being young, invulnerable, and broke, and having gone through a whole lineup of doctors over the years none of whom really seemed to agree on a treatment plan or whether one was even needed, cannot help but wonder if she's overreacting. Can anyone advise?

I am rail thin and one chiropractor told me this helps keep pressure down. Also, occasionally, when I sit for a long time, something in the front side of my ribs feels compressed. I'll lay flat lat on the ground for a few minutes or hang upside-down from a tree to relieve the pain, but this is rare and lately I've noticed that it usually coincide with wearing a tight bra band.

Pooka1
06-30-2014, 07:42 AM
Hi and welcome.

It's really hard to know what is gong on without radiographs. If you re having symptoms, you should get them to see if there is anything that can be identified as the cause.

Do you think your curve has gotten bigger over the years? Where is the curve?

Good luck.

SkyFish
06-30-2014, 03:00 PM
Hi and thanks!

I don't have exact numbers on the curve. I should probably get that data - and the x-rays - from my chiropractor. I do know it's a side to side "S" curve and one of the bends was 13. Both were under 19 - which I believe is when they operate.

The curves progressed while I was little but I think they've been fairly stable since mid high school.

This probably is ridiculously stupid, but I'm leery of sharing my worries with the doctor/chiropractor. The one my mom likes now flipped out when she saw my x-rays, and had me in 3 times a week for 6 months, while the one I'd had in high school had taken more of a "nobody's straight" approach and told me not to worry. Maybe I should look for a third (6th? 8th?) opinion, but there have been so many opinions over the years and I'm either going to spend my older years in agony or I'm majorly overreacting. I guess I just wondered if it ever happened that people had scoliosis without pain or if I'm automatically doomed.

Pooka1
06-30-2014, 05:18 PM
Hi and thanks!

I don't have exact numbers on the curve. I should probably get that data - and the x-rays - from my chiropractor. I do know it's a side to side "S" curve and one of the bends was 13. Both were under 19 - which I believe is when they operate.

Let me guess... did the chiro tell you the surgery cut-off was 19*? Chiros don't know anything about surgery and so should not be talking about any aspect of it with clients. When they are not mistaken they might be deliberately deceiving you to get your business. There are various cut-offs that take into account curve magnitude, patient age, and other factors. The actual surgical cut off for a growing adolescent is around 50*, not 19*. See? Not even close.


The curves progressed while I was little but I think they've been fairly stable since mid high school.

That fits with the general idea I am getting that you have a very small curve. Small curves don't tend to progress.


This probably is ridiculously stupid,

No it isn't. Any question that occurs to you is a good question. You are just trying to get some good information and frankly, you are starting from a bad place of misinformation if you only ever dealt with a chiro and not someone trained in spine like a surgeon. Surgeons don't only do surgery. In fact they try not to do surgery.


but I'm leery of sharing my worries with the doctor/chiropractor. The one my mom likes now flipped out when she saw my x-rays, and had me in 3 times a week for 6 months, while the one I'd had in high school had taken more of a "nobody's straight" approach and told me not to worry. Maybe I should look for a third (6th? 8th?) opinion, but there have been so many opinions over the years and I'm either going to spend my older years in agony or I'm majorly overreacting. I guess I just wondered if it ever happened that people had scoliosis without pain or if I'm automatically doomed.

You are correct not to talk any further with a chiro for any issue except possibly pain. Chiros have no relevant training to be treating scoliosis, especially in kids. If you have a small curve, the one who wigged out your mother and stole your money by having you come three times a week for a useless treatment is a horror of a human being for scaring you and your mother. These people have no shame. There is no evidence chiro stops progression or reduces curves.

If you are having symptoms (pain) you should consult an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in spine. They also advise people like you who are probably not surgical. They are the only people trained to treat scoliosis so they are the only legitimate game in town.

You are not destined to have any extra pain due to scoliosis, especially if your curves are small. Some people with large curves have no pain though that is infrequent I think. The problem is the vast majority of people without scoliosis have pain bad enough at some point in their life to go to a doctor. So nobody escapes back pain... if you get it, you are in the same boat as everyone else.

Please try to forget everything that chiro and every chiro told you and get an expert opinion for a change.

Good luck.

LindaRacine
06-30-2014, 09:04 PM
Hi Skyfish...

I fell for the chiropractic BS in my 30's. I had always been told I had a little bit of scoliosis, but didn't have a clue what that really meant. I started having neck pain in my early 30's, and went to a chiropractor for help. He took radiographs, which is how I discovered I had an S curve, with both curves around 50 degrees. The chiropractor convinced me that I should see him 3 times a week. I'm ashamed to admit that I went to the chiropractor for almost a year. At the end of the year, I realized that I had started having back pain (I didn't have any back pain when I first went to him), and my neck pain was worse. I never went back. I ended up having surgery about 10 years later. My curves had each progressed about 10 degrees during that time.

Will you have pain when you get older? Probably. About 85% of adults have at least occasional back pain. Most of those people have structurally normal spines. My advice would be to 1) get into some type of core strengthening program and 2) do what you can to minimize the amount of time you sit.

I hope you can avoid surgery. If you can't, it isn't the end of the world.

Regards,
Linda

titaniumed
07-01-2014, 01:12 AM
Ahhhh......Young and broke with scoliosis, the good old days.

Uncle Ed here used to have inversion boots back in the day,(1982)hang upside down in the closet just like Grandpa from the Munsters, and invite people over for cocktails.....Those were good times.....(smiley face) I had a lot of fun! In 1975, I was a surgical candidate with twin 50 degree curves, snow skied big mountain style with big airs, Lived at Lake Tahoe, shoveled 24 inches of snow every second day, split and carried around 10 cords of wood for the stove. That was my scoliosis program. It didn’t work, but I had tons of fun! There were only a handful of scoli surgeons back then, and I had no insurance. I had a ski pass.....

I think the word that describes some in the Chiropractic profession best is the word “hoopla”

hoop·la [hoop-lah] Show IPA
noun Informal.
1.bustling excitement or activity; commotion; hullabaloo; to-do.
2.sensational publicity; ballyhoo.
3.speech or writing intended to mislead or to obscure an issue.

I used Chiropractic for pain control for 25 years. It was an easy method used without medications that served its purpose. As far as correction of curves is concerned, it doesn’t work. I’ve done those studies....

If there is some way you can get copies of your x-rays, even from your Chiro, you can hang them up, snap a photo, and post them here. Just tell them you want your own copy. Select the longest one you can.

Hang in there.....and relax!

Ed

SkyFish
07-01-2014, 11:43 PM
Gosh, you guys have given me a lot to think about. Thank you. I've been doing some research too, and while I can testify to chiropractors ability to fix headaches there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of proof that they've done much for scoliosis.

I'll see about getting x-rays, but in the meantime, I talked things over with my mom, asking her why she chose the route she did and such. She tells me - per the latest chiropractor - that there's 3 or 4 stages of scoliosis progression and that my last set of x-rays show that I'm entering what I think was a stage #2 where the curve on your back bend the vertebrates so one side is too close together and nerves get pinched, the jell-pad-things that are between the vertebrates are destroyed, and eventually the vertebrates grow together. Has anybody heard of that?

(Apologies for my non-technically jargon is totally off.)

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 06:56 AM
She tells me - per the latest chiropractor - that there's 3 or 4 stages of scoliosis progression and that my last set of x-rays show that I'm entering what I think was a stage #2 where the curve on your back bend the vertebrates so one side is too close together and nerves get pinched, the jell-pad-things that are between the vertebrates are destroyed, and eventually the vertebrates grow together. Has anybody heard of that?


Pure bullsh*t. Chiro schools have the lowest GPA of any of the allied health professions and it shows. Chiros should not be treating scoliosis. They have no training.

This article has quotes from chiro school students...

http://www.rebuildyourback.com/chiropractic/doctor.php


Equivalent to Med School or a Joke?

So, based on what these chiropractors are telling us, it would appear that Chiropractic College really is just a fraud factory.

It appears that it is nothing more than a make-believe school put together by make-believe doctors designed to lure unsuspecting students into a career where they have to "fake it 'till they make it" as one school slogan seems to imply.

The evidence seems pretty overwhelming.

I do want to point out again that a complete bibliography with links to the original source material is included below so you can verify that I did not quote anyone out of context.

Every source quoted from is worth reading in its own right and will provide you with even more insights into this very controversial topic.

Here's a comparison of admission requirements of med school versus chiro school...

http://www.rebuildyourback.com/chiropractic/students.php


So we see that medical school obviously sets the higher standard for admission and is only looking to select the cream of the crop. They aren't trying to take a bunch of average students and somehow magically turn them into brilliant scholars.

Chiropractic schools on the other hand aren't so picky. They don't care who you are or what your motivation is. If you can obtain the minimum requirements and pay the tuition, you're in.

Here's what some chiropractors have to say about this situation:

… low entrance GPA requirement guarantees that chiropractors are the dumbest of all health care providers. [6]

Chiropractic schools are essentially trade schools, tuition dependent, and generally can not afford to be picky about choosing who's admitted. And because the schools require the tuition to remain open, they also can't afford to LOSE anyone, who, even at a chiropractic school, is below par. [7]

Chiropractic students STILL argue about why they have to take all this "medical stuff…" [7]

Of course, this low minimum standard does not mean that someone of superior intellect and abilities won't be part of the class. It just means there will be a lot of mediocre (or worse) doctors of chiropractic being turned loose to "practice" on the public.

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 06:57 AM
http://www.rebuildyourback.com/chiropractic/curriculum.php


Same Name Different Course

If you look in a chiropractic college catalog it would appear that the course listings are the same as in a medical school. But this apparently is not accurate. By all accounts, the courses actually taught bear little resemblance to the real thing as these former chiropractors reveal:

The medical portion of a chiropractor's education is a simulation… [8]

… the medical and science courses that ARE listed for chiropractors represent little more than a theatrical prop, like the white jacket and stethoscope needed to "Play a doctor in real (insurance-reimbursable) life." [7]

"A CCE report from their lawsuit against Life University reveals… that Life was not teaching [differential diagnosis] at all. Instead of the real subject and despite representations in admissions materials that it was being taught… students merely learned to qualify every patient using non-validated chiropractic diagnostic procedures…" [18]

Life University has been teaching that chiropractors should not perform differential diagnosis (listing possible medical conditions and doing what is necessary to determine whether they are present) -- a policy that places patients at considerable risk. [4]

The only physical examinations we performed were on our fellow students. Except for a radiology course in which we actually viewed x-ray films, our other disease-related classes provided little practical information. [5]

Basic sciences: My biochemistry and physics teacher maintained that you weighed less when you picked one foot off the ground and that there was no gravity on the moon. [7]

Microbiology: When asked about the size of a virus, the professor maintained it was "very small," but wasn't quite sure if it was bigger than an atom, or not. A fungus was defined as the 'green stuff' that appears on cheese left too long in the refrigerator. [7]

The General Diagnosis course, taught by a chiropractor who had a nursing degree, covered diseases whose symptoms and course we were expected to memorize by rote. [5]

I have sent evidence to CCE that the deficiencies it found at Life were there when I was a student. I estimate that 8,000 Life graduates were inadequately trained in diagnosis, posing a serious threat to their patients. These graduates have also been taught to take unnecessary x-rays of pain-free areas (to find "subluxations") and to advise patients to discontinue prescription medications. [4]

Finally, I am not aware of any required clinical internship or residency (as with MDs) for chiropractors above and beyond their relatively minor clinic exposure... [7]


A former chiropractor now turned med student writes:

Medical education is a very humbling experience for me. It is much more intense and much more clinical exposure that I can't even compare it to chiro school. [6]

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 06:57 AM
The chiro you and your mother were dealing with is a horror of a human being for scaring you with nonsense.

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 07:05 AM
The chiro section over on Quackwatch got so large that they gave chiro its own section... Chirobase...

http://www.chirobase.org/

The only people trained to treat scoliosis conservatively or surgically are board certified orthopedic surgeons focusing on spine.

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 07:07 AM
But my mom continues to worry, and to warn me that unless I pursue aggressive treatment now I'll be in severe pain as I age.

I am assuming your mother has no training in this field. So everything she is telling you is from the chiro. Less than worthless.

SkyFish
07-02-2014, 01:38 PM
I do understand your concern and I've looked over the articles. I apologize for not agreeing right away but I'm been taught since childhood that Natural medicine is misunderstood and hated by most "unlightened" members of the medical community - so bare with me as I try to give everyone a fair hearing. I am listening. My mother has also agreed that my next check-up should come from a back specialist - preferably one who goes to a chiropractor himself and understands the pros and cons of that discipline.

That being said, this is the model they've showed me: http://www.patientmedia.com/reports/sdmodel.htm It's kinda scary when you're 24 and fit.
The product is being sold on a chiropractic website, but if I Google "lumbr degeneration" I find a bunch of orthopedic websites - which leads me to thing that the condition is real - and I probably should get a back specialist's opinion on my x-rays to tell if the chiropractor is completely lying or is on the ball.

Edit: And I've got a call out and they're making .jpgs of the x-rays.

jrnyc
07-02-2014, 05:00 PM
please please please...
do yourself a favor and go to a real doctor who specializes
in scoliosis...and can take an Xray and measure your curves
accurately...
doctors used to tell us 50 degrees was surgery level...
but we now know there are people in alot of pain with smaller
curves and some with larger curves who are lucky not to have
pain...
of course, pain is not the deciding factor on surgery...
as a matter of fact,.it is the progression of the curves that worries
surgeons...more so than the pain...the progression, and how much
the curves debilitate that person...or do not debilitate them...

the only doctor who can really help you is a Lyme
specialist...and that is NOT a chiro...

sorry...but the facts are the facts...

best of luck,,,
jess...and Sparky

SkyFish
07-02-2014, 06:55 PM
I'm listening. :) *smile* And trying to understand. I've been x-rayed and measured so many times by chiropractors, orthopedic experts, scoliosis specialists, and sports medicine doctors. From my point of view, the chiropractors were the only ones who cared enough to help - though this discussion leads me to believe that I should hit a specialist or two again in order to get a more comprehensive view of what this'll all mean as an adult.


the only doctor who can really help you is a Lyme
specialist...and that is NOT a chiro...
But... Lyme? Isn't that a whole nother problem?

Pooka1
07-02-2014, 07:10 PM
I'm listening. :) *smile* And trying to understand. I've been x-rayed and measured so many times by chiropractors, orthopedic experts, scoliosis specialists, and sports medicine doctors. From my point of view, the chiropractors were the only ones who cared enough to help - though this discussion leads me to believe that I should hit a specialist or two again in order to get a more comprehensive view of what this'll all mean as an adult.


But... Lyme? Isn't that a whole nother problem?

She mistyped that. Cross conversations. Jess is an expert on Lyme.

She meant an experienced orthopedic surgeon specializing in spine/scoliosis.

Please don't confuse wanting to help you with stealing your money. The chiro stole your money if you had a small curve that wasn't painful. You needed no treatment. It would be unethical for a surgeon to treat you absent progression or pain or other symptoms simply because you had a small curve. Most people with small curves have no more back problems than people who don't have a curve.

I hope you are seeing why you should never go to a chiro for scoliosis.

susancook
07-02-2014, 07:18 PM
please please please...
do yourself a favor and go to a real doctor who specializes
in scoliosis...and can take an Xray and measure your curves
accurately...
doctors used to tell us 50 degrees was surgery level...
but we now know there are people in alot of pain with smaller
curves and some with larger curves who are lucky not to have
pain...
of course, pain is not the deciding factor on surgery...
as a matter of fact,.it is the progression of the curves that worries
surgeons...more so than the pain...the progression, and how much
the curves debilitate that person...or do not

sorry...but the facts are the facts...

jess...and Sparky

Jess: An addition that I would like to make is that for persons with "Adult Onset Degenerative Scoliosis", the degree of the curve really is not relevant, it is the pain caused by collapsing discs, stenotic vertebrae, etc. My curve for example did not change in a year, but my pain increased phenomenally and my coronal balance went from maybe 4" to 11 something". So, I listed to the right side, had a huge kyphosis, a lot of pain and curves of 24 degrees thoracic and 36 degrees lumbar.

One spinal surgeon seeing the change and degree of pain said, something like, "I cannot believe that someone in your shape wouldn't want surgery".

Susan

jrnyc
07-02-2014, 08:09 PM
i do not know that onset has that much to do with it...
i had curves not diagnosed til i was 31...but the curves
were already there...
in the last 4 years, according to Dr Lonner, my curves
have increased little, but my pain has gotten so much worse
that i can barely walk...
he said my ribs look like they are collapsing more onto my
hips on the right side..
and on the X ray, which looks almost identical to 4 years ago,
when compared side by side, it continues to appear the same...
as if there is nothing there, literally, on right side....around
my waist...everything is shifting to the left...
there is no way to know exactly WHY my pain is so much
worse...perhaps because i did not have bursitis in my hips
4 years ago...? my hips did not hurt at all back then....
maybe that is part of it...
perhaps because my listhesis seems to be getting worse...

what i would like to tell "younger patient" is that i did fine for YEARS
with scoliosis...until i herniated a disc in my lumbar spine....after
that, it was all downhill....
but my younger years, scoliosis did not cause me much pain at all,
and did not prevent me from doing anything...


1616

LindaRacine
07-02-2014, 09:21 PM
I do understand your concern and I've looked over the articles. I apologize for not agreeing right away but I'm been taught since childhood that Natural medicine is misunderstood and hated by most "unlightened" members of the medical community - so bare with me as I try to give everyone a fair hearing. I am listening. My mother has also agreed that my next check-up should come from a back specialist - preferably one who goes to a chiropractor himself and understands the pros and cons of that discipline.

That being said, this is the model they've showed me: http://www.patientmedia.com/reports/sdmodel.htm It's kinda scary when you're 24 and fit.
The product is being sold on a chiropractic website, but if I Google "lumbr degeneration" I find a bunch of orthopedic websites - which leads me to thing that the condition is real - and I probably should get a back specialist's opinion on my x-rays to tell if the chiropractor is completely lying or is on the ball.

Edit: And I've got a call out and they're making .jpgs of the x-rays.

Hi SkyFish...

There is no evidence to show that chiropractic treatment will have any affect on degeneration, the condition of the spine shown in the models to which you posted the link. Unfortunately, the degeneration shown in the model happens to everyone as they age. With few exceptions, I can pretty much tell someone's approximate age simply by looking at xrays of their spine.

The good news for you, I think, is that while I doubt that seeing a chiropractor will help your scoliosis, chances are, it also won't hurt (except your wallet). Since you're already an adult, your curve(s) are unlikely to increase quickly. And, even if they do, you're probably not hurting yourself by not seeking treatment from a qualified scoliosis specialist. If you start experiencing significant pain and/or start having arm or leg pain or weakness, that would be a good time to be seen.

Regards,
Linda

LindaRacine
07-02-2014, 10:58 PM
I do understand your concern and I've looked over the articles. I apologize for not agreeing right away but I'm been taught since childhood that Natural medicine is misunderstood and hated by most "unlightened" members of the medical community - so bare with me as I try to give everyone a fair hearing. I am listening. My mother has also agreed that my next check-up should come from a back specialist - preferably one who goes to a chiropractor himself and understands the pros and cons of that discipline.

That being said, this is the model they've showed me: http://www.patientmedia.com/reports/sdmodel.htm It's kinda scary when you're 24 and fit.
The product is being sold on a chiropractic website, but if I Google "lumbr degeneration" I find a bunch of orthopedic websites - which leads me to thing that the condition is real - and I probably should get a back specialist's opinion on my x-rays to tell if the chiropractor is completely lying or is on the ball.

Edit: And I've got a call out and they're making .jpgs of the x-rays.
By the way, if you read the copy on the link you mentioned above, you'll see how the models are meant to be used to manipulate and scare patients.

susancook
07-03-2014, 09:56 PM
I saw a chiropractor for thoracic severe pain on the recommendation of my pain management doctor. He did some gentle manipulation, as I told him that he could not perform any fast twisting jerks.

I must have has a vertebrae that was slightly unbalanced as the pain was relieved or about 3 days, then returned. I saw him about 4-5 times and I always felt better for a few days only.

I do not understand the Science behind chiropractic care and I could not find good double blind placebo controlled trials with he treatments that they use.

I had a friend with back pain who had neck vertebral damage after a chiropractic manipulation.

Susan

SkyFish
07-03-2014, 11:10 PM
Thanks Jess and Sparky and Susan for telling what you've experienced. Personal antidotes make so much sense even we all end up being different.


Unfortunately, the degeneration shown in the model happens to everyone as they age.
Oh. That's good to know.


Please don't confuse wanting to help you with stealing your money. The chiro stole your money if you had a small curve that wasn't painful. You needed no treatment. It would be unethical for a surgeon to treat you absent progression or pain or other symptoms simply because you had a small curve. Most people with small curves have no more back problems than people who don't have a curve.
I have seen good chiros - and they really do fix *some* things. But I totally follow.


By the way, if you read the copy on the link you mentioned above, you'll see how the models are meant to be used to manipulate and scare patients.
Excellent point. Hmmmmmmm...

But the proof is in the pudding. Here are my x-rays! I know you're not doctors, but any thoughts? Principle things I'm wondering are whether my vertebrates are already degenerating and how bad all this actually is. I guess one curve has hit 21. 16181617

There was a note from the x-ray tech:
"Findings: There is a 21 degree lower thoracic and lumbar rotscoliotic curve convex left noted according to the method of Cobb. In addition, there is a 13 degree mid-to-lower thoracic rotoscholiotic curve convex right identified according to the method of Cobb. No intrinsic vertebral abnormality is noted. There is also an upper thoracic 11 degree rotoscoliotic curve convex left noted."

Pooka1
07-03-2014, 11:36 PM
I have seen good chiros - and they really do fix *some* things. But I totally follow.

Chiro has been shown to help with some lower back pain but is no more effective than other PT. They should never be working on children with scoliosis because they have no relevant training.

There is no evidence chiro stops scoliosis progression or reduces curves. If they claim to do so then they are ignorant or lying. There is no third option.

You appear to have very small curves. Most small curves like that never progress. Unless you were having pain, there was little reason to even see a surgeon past the initial diagnosis and maybe a follow up. There is never any reason to see a chiro for scoliosis other than for lower back pain that might even be better addressed using something other than chiro.

Chiro sits on a throne of imaginary claims. It is not a science.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/science-and-chiropractic/

And finally, about your mother being open to other types of medicine besides mainstream medicine... if you open you mind too much your brain will fall out. :-)

Q. What do you call alternative medicine that works?
A: Medicine.

LindaRacine
07-03-2014, 11:43 PM
Thanks Jess and Sparky and Susan for telling what you've experienced. Personal antidotes make so much sense even we all end up being different.


Oh. That's good to know.


I have seen good chiros - and they really do fix *some* things. But I totally follow.

Excellent point. Hmmmmmmm...

But the proof is in the pudding. Here are my x-rays! I know you're not doctors, but any thoughts? Principle things I'm wondering are whether my vertebrates are already degenerating and how bad all this actually is. I guess one curve has hit 21. 16181617

There was a note from the x-ray tech:
"Findings: There is a 21 degree lower thoracic and lumbar rotscoliotic curve convex left noted according to the method of Cobb. In addition, there is a 13 degree mid-to-lower thoracic rotoscholiotic curve convex right identified according to the method of Cobb. No intrinsic vertebral abnormality is noted. There is also an upper thoracic 11 degree rotoscoliotic curve convex left noted."
Your curves are pretty small, so hopefully, they'll never cause problems. The best thing you can do for yourself is to stay fit, and keep your core strong.

BTW, the radiographic report is pretty typical.

jrnyc
07-04-2014, 03:21 AM
wow....nice strong spine...
i hope you follow Linda's advice...
personally, if i were you, i wouldn't see anyone except
the people at the gym...
cardio and weight training should help you stay
strong and fit...
maybe you should look at some of the scoli X rays on
here to know what a real scoliotic spine looks like...
should stop any worries you have...
(Linda has a thread of before and after surgery X rays)

jess...and Sparky

SkyFish
07-04-2014, 01:00 PM
And finally, about your mother being open to other types of medicine besides mainstream medicine... if you open you mind too much your brain will fall out. :-)
This is true. Mom always discouraged allergy meds too, but they've turned out to be a godsend - and so far I get NO side effects. :)



BTW, the radiographic report is pretty typical.
Thanks. It sounded pretty bad when I opened it and saw "21", so that's great to hear.


personally, if i were you, i wouldn't see anyone except
the people at the gym...
cardio and weight training should help you stay
strong and fit...
maybe you should look at some of the scoli X rays on
here to know what a real scoliotic spine looks like...
should stop any worries you have...
I'll look into it. I'm going to find a "secular" orthopedic doc just to confirm all this and cause it's been a while since anybody but chiros were involved. I've poked through some of the other x-rays here and I totally follow... Assuming the pain stays away, I'm very lucky. :)

titaniumed
07-04-2014, 01:49 PM
Sky, you have a nice spine!

Exercise, Calcium, and Vitamin D, and maybe the occasional tree or closet hang should do it. He he

I wouldn’t worry much at all....just like a small icon on your desktop, be aware of it, click on it every few years, maybe get a x-ray.

Save your money....(smiley face)

Ed

SkyFish
07-09-2014, 04:25 PM
Will do! Thanks so much y'all. I'm super encouraged!