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Pontiacgp
01-28-2014, 09:38 PM
my name is cody,ive been diagnosed with severe scoliosis,my disc has collapsed,my hip is elevated higher on one side than the other,its causing pain in my joint down my leg to my ankle,the doctor said my ribs are twisted which causes the rib pain and my muscles and slightly pinched or something like that which is causing muscle spasms,im on a muscle relaxer that dosent do much,i finally got on disability due to it all,the thing is im on ga medicaid and cant find a spine doctor around me,my zip code is 30711 if anybody knows a place that would help me,thanks

jrnyc
01-29-2014, 03:07 AM
if you are on disability, are you not on Medicare, which
would give you medical care....???
not the greatest in the world for choosing surgeon maybe,
but it is there for help...
????????????????
how severe is your severe...?
asking cause i have hip pain too...bursitis in hip caused by the scoliosis....got first shot for it Friday and it helped....very pleased about that...

jess

leahdragonfly
01-29-2014, 07:55 AM
Hi,

here is a search from the Scoliosis Research Society…I don't know anything about any of them but maybe it's a start. Am I correct that you are in Georgia? Do you have a Care Coordinator who might be able to help you?

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Dheera Ananthakrishnan, MD, MSE
Emory University
59 Executive Park South
Suite 3000
Altanta, GA 30329 United States
Phone: (404) 778-6306
Fax: (404) 778-6376
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions

Justin V. Bundy, MD
Augusta Orthopedics & Sports Specialists
3650 J Dewey Circle
Augusta, GA 30909 United States
Phone: 706-863-9797
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions

John Kenneth Burkus, MD
Hughston Orthopaedic Clinic
PO Box 9517
6262 Veterans Pkwy
Columbus, GA 31908-9517
Phone: (706) 494-3305
Fax: (706) 494-3105
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions, Juvenile/Infantile

William C. Horton, MD
Emory Orthopaedics & Spine Center
59 Executive Park South, Suite 3000
Atlanta, GA 30329
Phone: (404) 778-7115
Fax: (404) 778-6378
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions, Juvenile/Infantile

Stephen B. James, DO
1100 Northside Forsyth Drive
Suite #340
Cumming, GA 30041
Phone: (770) 886-8111
Fax: 678-341-6788
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions

James R. Malcolm, MD
Pinnacle Orthopaedics
300 Tower Road, Suite 200
Marietta, GA 30060
Phone: (770) 427-5717
Fax: (770) 429-6503
Http://Pinnacle-Ortho.Com
Specialties: Adolescent, Adult Scoliosis, Aging Spine, Degenerative Conditions

Pontiacgp
01-29-2014, 02:08 PM
leahdragon fly thanks for the help and yes im in ga,and jrnyc mine does cause hip pain,it feels like my joint is rubbing together,also my knee hurts down to my ankle,all on the right side,is bascially ribs down to my ankle,i went to a orthopedic doc for my ankle and she said 99% of xrays she looks at people say they were diagnosed with scoliosis but actually didnt have it,she said its overly diagnosed but with me she said its severe,its one of the worst ones she has looked at,she says i need to see a spine specialist soon,im having spasms were my curve is,idk what they can do to fix my hip,back,and ribs,and nope they put me on medicaid and leahdragonfly ive never heard of a care cooridnator,how do i find out if i have one?

jrnyc
01-29-2014, 11:09 PM
what degree curve do you have....?
are you curved top of spine, bottom, both....?

i hope you find a surgeon who takes your medicaid...
having govt coverage is not the best, sometimes it is all
one can manage...

i got relief from hip pain from steroid shot...
i stopped shots for 2 years after it caused a reaction where
cortisol dropped to zero and i was exhausted, like mono...
that was caused by too much steroid to spine...i got alot of shots
for back pain....too many...

i hope you can find help with pain while you search for doctor...
i tolerated my hip pain for almost a year now before i got
shot in desperation....now i need my blood checked for cortisol
reading in a few weeks...

good luck
jess

Pontiacgp
01-29-2014, 11:24 PM
jrnyc she said they didnt have a way to tell me my angle cause they dont specialize in spines,she said the nearest doctor is easy a hr and a half away,i ask her how is a person suppose to beable to run that far alot,on latest report it said lower lumbar,i guess it means my lower back,one doctor i seen for my disability review said he dosent recomend it and a brace wouldnt help so what do i do,im 20 how can somebody live like this,i have to either stay in bed or a recliner now as it is

jrnyc
01-30-2014, 01:35 AM
yes....you need to get help
why not look for more than one doctor at a time...??
a pain doctor might be able to help you with the pain...
that way you might be able to get up out of bed or off
recliner....
i sympathize with you....i have lived with this most of my
life, as have many....and i am waaay older than you are.
not saying you shouldn't treat it and investigate surgery,
but suggest address the pain right now....
pain management doctors can help.
and a scoliosis specialist can measure your curve(s) and tell
you exactly what you are dealing with.

can you post your X rays here???

jess

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 01:51 AM
Oh I am looking for pain doctor,I haven't had Medicaid to long,it went into effect on the 1st,I can save the X-rays off my cd,they are from may of last year,I've had some say it ain't bad,but they don't know how it is,can I post links from photobucket on here?,I guess they don't want to give any pain meds to a person so young,they gave me inflammatory pills that are called mobic which dosent help

jrnyc
01-30-2014, 03:39 AM
how old are you...?
are you under 18? under 21?
do you need some kind of parental consent...?

pain is pain...young people feel it too...
they tend to bounce back from surgery faster than older
people...but they certainly feel pain like anyone else...

no doctor wants any patient becoming dependent on pain meds...
but, in my lay person experience, a good pain doc will treat the symptoms, try to address cause, while you can look for surgeon at same time...
i have had many different kinds of pain treatment....from shots,
to pills, to patches, to nerve ablation, etc....with differing success.

jess

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 12:12 PM
Some forums don't allow links to other website so I was asking before I did it,I'm 20

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 12:13 PM
I'll post them here soon

jrnyc
01-30-2014, 01:13 PM
i think you need a pain doctor who knows his business...
of course they do not want to see a 20 year old become
dependent on pain meds...
but no one wants to leave you in pain so you cannot
get off the couch and function...at least, in my experience
with pain doctors they wouldn't....now is when you are
supposed to be doing so many things in your life...
not be unable to move or enjoy or pursue your dreams.

i am wondering if you have ever had a chance to discuss
treatment options with a doctor??...there are shots a doctor
might try, if he/she thought it could help you....not just pain
meds...
the good news about your age is that should you have surgery,
your age might help you recover and heal faster....

jess

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 03:21 PM
i did see a doctor in eith 07 or 08 but lost my insurance and couldnt go back,i didnt realize how bad it was until 2010 when i went to work at the dollar general and after a few days had to quit,it feels like pressure is pushed down on my spine while standing,could my spine be pressing on nerves and making my legs semi numb?,im googling and trying to find a pain managment doctor,i toss and turn all night,i go from right side to back to left side and back again,i cant lift heavy stuff,it hurts holding my 25lb nephew and hes alway wanting me to and i cant cause of it,i wish they made a brace to keep my torso pulled up to keep the pressure off of it,here are my xrays http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/Cody_Woodard/pic2_zps244099f6.png http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l519/Cody_Woodard/pic1_zpseb0a4ec9.png im not to sure if it could have got worse since then

jrnyc
01-30-2014, 03:41 PM
i cannot tell from your Xray how big the curve is...
you might want to ask Linda Racine, the moderator of this forum, what she thinks about your X rays....she works in a scoli unit
of a big hospital in CA...you can send her a private message if you
wish to...

in my own experience, numbness usually means nerves are involved...that is what i know as a patient, and was told by doctors when i had numbness years ago from Lyme disease. i am used to living with a curve that is now 70 degrees on the bottom and 42 on top....i did well until i herniated discs in my lower spine....until then, i held down a full time job in Manhattan, went to school part time nites and wkends....and went to the gym. since herniating discs it was downhill all the way for me...

you have youth on your side...which may not sound like alot, but it will be if you need the strength to recover from future surgery....
for now, i would concentrate on finding doctors who take the medical insurance you have....and getting out of pain might be a first concern....
i do know injections work better for nerve related pain than for structural related pain....that was told to me by two top scoli doctors...they thought my pain was more structurally related than nerve related, and i didn't get as much help from shots as they hoped....until i got a shot in left hip last week...it worked like a charm to kill the pain in left hip that i lived with for almost a year!

jess

jrnyc
01-30-2014, 06:55 PM
do you have bad discs at age 20??
i hope not....
???

jess

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 10:58 PM
the doctor i went to for my ankle/leg said it looks like it has collapsed,ill know for sure when i get a appoitment to a spine specialist,ive got the films of my xrays,from them it looks like they are overlapping eachother and rubbing,i feel like it will be a long road ahead,im type 2 diabetic,its caused neurpathy,my urine had 100 protein levels in it,im waiting on those test to come back,wonder what they could do to fix my spine/hip so i could be normal,im kinda overweight and doctors keep on and keep on ''you need to lose weight'' im like how do you exspect me to if my ankle kills me and my back kills me,when walking my joint in my hip hurts also,i guess i should have taken physicals more serious when i was younger

Pontiacgp
01-30-2014, 11:02 PM
rohrer01 i think they took it at a crazy angle,im not sure why but my heart rate has been high everytime ive been to the doctor,sometimes 123,they said it was high because my heart is working harder due to being overweight i guess,i can feel it on the left beating sometimes where its suppose to be but i could be wrong

susancook
01-31-2014, 02:21 AM
Hi Cody, great that you found this forum and are looking at seeing a spine doctor. Who lives in your house that could go with you to appointments? I found that it was helpful to have someone else with me to help ask questions. When I went to see my spine doctor, my son came along and he had a list of questions and he took notes for me. Also, if you do have surgery, you will need someone to help you when you return back home.

You will need to get your diabetes under good control before any doctor would consider surgery. Maybe a visiting nurse could come to your home and help you will diet and medication. You probably know a lot about how food affects your blood sugar. Who is your primary doctor? Maybe he or she could refer you to a dietician who could help you figure out food that you could eat that would keep your diabetes in control and also help you lose weight. I can see how it is frustrating if you cannot exercise because of your ankle.

Keep us posted on how you are doing! You have friends on this forum who can support you!

Take care, Susan

rohrer01
01-31-2014, 03:25 AM
rohrer01 i think they took it at a crazy angle,im not sure why but my heart rate has been high everytime ive been to the doctor,sometimes 123,they said it was high because my heart is working harder due to being overweight i guess,i can feel it on the left beating sometimes where its suppose to be but i could be wrong

Unfortunately, Cody, your weight does interfere with your health. I'm not telling you anything new. However, you should NOT take pat answers from doctors just because you are overweight. A resting heart rate over 100 beats per minute is tachycardia. You should probably see a cardiologist to find out if that is normal for your weight.

I'm really concerned about your kidney function. Diabetes is a serious disease and you need to get control of it like Susan said. Did you say that they gave you anti-inflammatory medication? Is it an NSAID like ibuprofen, naproxen sodium, aspirin, etc.? That greatly concerns me with your kidneys putting out protein. These types of drugs are extremely hard on the kidneys! I'm appalled that they would give you that medicine. Please, go back to your doctor and make sure this isn't the type of drug they gave you or look it up on the internet and take it up with your doctor. Did they do a kidney function test? If not, you need to have one done. Bad kidneys can go hand in hand with diabetes.

I'm in agreement that you probably would not be allowed to have surgery until it is under control. There would be just too much risk of infection and poor wound healing.

You do have a lot of health problems right now. You have age on your side. Start tackling them one by one so that you can get healthy. Susan's suggestion of consulting with a dietician is a great place to start. Hopefully, you can stick to your plan and get things under control. This will give you some semblance of getting your life back. How old were you when you last remember feeling really good?

I wish you all the best. We'll all be here for you to cheer you on!

Pontiacgp
01-31-2014, 04:29 PM
i just go my blood test back today,my cholerstrol was a little high and sugars,ive been watching what i eat,ive lost 47 pounds so far,my sugars are staying somewhat down,the antiinflamatory is called mobic they gave me,i actually cant remeber when ive felt good,ive been feeling feeling bad since 2010,ive just been a hermit i guess cause of hurting when i go out,also they said my kidney function was ok

susancook
02-01-2014, 01:46 AM
Cody: Did you give your primary doctor the list of spine surgeons that Gayle gave you so he/she could refer you for an evaluation?

Also, do you live alone? Have family nearby?

If you had a good evaluation from a spine doctor, like the one that Gayle sent you, then you could find out if you need surgery or is there were other treatments that could help you. You sound discouraged in your last entry. Have you told your primary doctor how you feel?

Susan

Pontiacgp
02-01-2014, 01:02 PM
Yes I told them the names of the doctors she gave me,she said a nurse will be in contact,no I don't live alone

rohrer01
02-01-2014, 05:35 PM
Cody,

I am glad to see people offering suggestions to help you. Keep in mind that a support forum is not a good source of medical advice in most instances, so please check with your regular doctor for advice about blood sugar, kidney function, heart rate, medications, etc. For instance, you do not need to see a cardiologist about your heart rate. I do not think your heart is on the wrong side of your body based on your x-rays. Your regular doctor can tell you if your heart rate is a problem or not.

Gayle,
I recommended him seeing a cardiologist because his regular doctor gave him a pat answer about his heart rate, blaming it on obesity and not investigating what might be going on to MAKE SURE that's all it is. I have an arrhythmia that was misdiagnosed for YEARS as being anxiety or panic attacks. If the primary care providers won't listen, then get it straight with a specialist in THAT field. A sensation that your heart is pounding all of the time is NOT normal. Cody's weight puts him at risk for heart disease and it wouldn't hurt to get that checked out. I'm not making any diagnosis, just telling how I see it from my own experiences in life, personal and with other people, and my level of education.

For his kidneys, I happen to know someone with out-of-control diabetes and obesity that needed a kidney transplant at a young age. That transplant worked (from his brother, my friend) and the guy let his diabetes get out of control and ate whatever he wanted. The kidney only lasted a year and now he needs another one. He's been living on dialysis for YEARS. I don't want to see something like this happen to Cody. This guy was young when his problems started, too. Cody seems to be a responsible young man who realizes that he let things get out of control and is taking charge of his own health. Losing 47lb is no small task. This tells me that Cody is responsible and serious about taking charge of his own health.

Also, I did not tell him that his heart IS on the wrong side of his body. I said it looked that way on the x-ray and then acknowledged that it looked like they took the x-ray from an odd angle. He responded appropriately that he can feel his heart where it belongs. I have never seen an x-ray taken from that angle before and I couldn't make out the R or L on the smaller films on the side. When I zoomed in, they were too fuzzy to read. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything there, but it looked odd to me. Cody didn't act upset about it. If I had discerned that he was the type of person to panic over things, I WOULDN'T have mentioned it. Cody seems very level headed to me.

So, Cody, Gayle (leahdragonfly) is correct. You do NOT want to run out and believe everything you hear on here. We are a community made up of mostly laymen who really don't know what we are talking about much of the time. It states right in the introduction to the forum to use good sense and not take anything as actual medical advice. I meant no harm and I DO think you should have your kidney function tested and your heart checked out by someone who specializes in that field. You are in a category of higher risk for disease in those organs because of your diabetes and your weight. I don't think anyone who knows anything about the human body would ever deny that. I'm sorry if I worried you. No one will be upset with you if you don't follow our "advice".

Like I said: We're here for you and will be your cheering section. I'm really happy to see you taking charge and getting done the things that need to be done with regard to your health.

rohrer01
02-01-2014, 08:13 PM
rohrer01 i think they took it at a crazy angle,im not sure why but my heart rate has been high everytime ive been to the doctor,sometimes 123,they said it was high because my heart is working harder due to being overweight i guess,i can feel it on the left beating sometimes where its suppose to be but i could be wrong

I'm sure your heart is right where it is supposed to be. I deleted that post because it was misleading to some. That x-ray was taken at a really wonky angle.

Pontiacgp
02-01-2014, 09:23 PM
I was in no way offended,a forums is made up of regular everyday people,I came across this one when I google and I figured this one was a good start and shed some light on the situation since others are going through the same thing as me,I'm grateful and appreciate all the help I've got

Pooka1
02-01-2014, 09:40 PM
I was in no way offended,a forums is made up of regular everyday people,I came across this one when I google and I figured this one was a good start and shed some light on the situation since others are going through the same thing as me,I'm grateful and appreciate all the help I've got

I think the personal testimonials are the most valuable thing on this forum by far. The rest of the stuff is bunnies arguing with bunnies over technical matters because we have no surgeons here. He had a PhD researcher for a while and that was eye opening.

rohrer01
02-01-2014, 10:47 PM
I was in no way offended,a forums is made up of regular everyday people,I came across this one when I google and I figured this one was a good start and shed some light on the situation since others are going through the same thing as me,I'm grateful and appreciate all the help I've got

I'm glad. I in NO way tried to scare you. =)
You are doing a great job losing 47lb. The fact that you are willing to talk about this aspect of your life says a lot of positive things about you, too.
From watching "Extreme Weight Loss" (one of my favorite shows) the weight will come off faster at first, then for awhile it might seem like you work and work and work and nothing comes off. That's because, if you are eating healthy, you will be building muscle which weighs more than fat. I'm not expecting that you'll go to that extreme, especially with the pain you have in your back and ankle. That's why it's SO COMENDABLE that you've lost the weight you have!
I love to see people take charge of their lives and move from a seemingly impossible situation to a better one. You are already doing that.
I'm an overly thin person. Let me tell you, I grew up with a complex. I was teased incessantly. Just so you know, it doesn't happen only to heavy people. I have a lot to overcome. Weight to gain, muscle mass to gain, pain to diminish, while keeping my dystonia and arrhythmia in check. It's hard for me to exercise anymore. It hurts my neck and shoulder muscles to the point where they have tightened up so badly that they actually cut off the main artery and vein to my left arm and my hand began to swell...scary! I also have some undiagnosed Muscle Disease (MD), I guess that's what they call dystrophy these days. That's what they called it on the Muscular Dystrophy Society's website. You have your ankle, back, diabetes, and weight loss to work on. They are different, but just as challenging!
You can read my story on "I have some imaging CD's" in the "Non-Surgical" part of the forum for those over 18. I have my highs and lows.
I hope you stay here with us. I would love to follow your progress. For now you need to get some PAIN MANAGEMENT. Ouch!

Pontiacgp
02-02-2014, 08:08 PM
I've watched extreme weight loss a lot,Chris Powell really cares,I will keep y'all updated as stuff goes on,I went to Walmart today to try to get out and feel better but now I regret it my back is killing me,I'm going to call around in the morning to get something done,if the doctors office can't get me into somewhere I'll go to the er and see a doctor and get them to find somebody,when I stand I think a nerve is pinched or something and making my legs weak and kinda numb if that's possible

jrnyc
02-02-2014, 09:14 PM
Cody, numbness is usually, not always,
but very often from nerves...
pinched, damaged, pressed on, etc....
usually respond well to injections, or so my doctors have told me...

feel better....
jess

rohrer01
02-03-2014, 01:16 AM
I've watched extreme weight loss a lot,Chris Powell really cares,I will keep y'all updated as stuff goes on,I went to Walmart today to try to get out and feel better but now I regret it my back is killing me,I'm going to call around in the morning to get something done,if the doctors office can't get me into somewhere I'll go to the er and see a doctor and get them to find somebody,when I stand I think a nerve is pinched or something and making my legs weak and kinda numb if that's possible

YES, pinched nerves can cause all of the symptoms you describe. If it's that bad and you are still awake or can't sleep because of pain, go tonight. At least you'll be able to get some rest. If you can make it, I'd recommend what you said about going to the doctor tomorrow. I did that recently. I said I need to be seen or I'm going to the ER. My doc is a sweetheart and told me to come in as soon as I could and he would work me in, which he did. =)

I'm glad you like that show, too! He does really care! You can see it in his face.
I don't know how you lost the weight you have with not being able to be upright for very long.
I would get that pain under control and try to do exercises that don't require you to stand or walk. Better yet, see if your doctor will prescribe PT so they can help you do exercises that are safe for you and won't risk injuring your back farther or sending you into tachycardia. Pain can raise your heart rate and blood pressure. It's happened to me a few times. I have normally low blood pressure made worse by my heart medicine and it's still risen from pain.

Thanks for the update. I would go to the ER if you can't stand the pain. Don't LEAVE until they get it under control. They will try light stuff that doesn't help, from the experience I've heard from others. I've almost always had success when I've HAD to go except once. I get morphine or fentanyl via IV. There are other things that they can try first that aren't so strong. But, whatever the case, PLEASE don't let them bully you into leaving without pain control. Okay?

Take Care!

Pontiacgp
02-10-2014, 11:47 PM
well still not luck,i found a pain mangment doctor and i have to have a referal,i called and told them about it,she said she will get back with me,they havent got me in with a spine specialist yet,im not sure how i lost weight,it just seemed to come off by itself

rohrer01
02-11-2014, 11:11 AM
If you got on disability (SSD or SSI), don't you have medicaid AND medicare? As far as I know you don't need referrals unless the provider you are trying to see doesn't accept your insurance. I made my own appointment with a specialist (not for back) when I was having trouble with another issue. I had medicaid at the time. I didn't have a problem. I did, however, ask my PCP/GP (my regular doctor) to send in a referral after the fact just to cover my bases. He did, but it wasn't necessary. You need to tell the provider what insurance/s you have and find out from their financial department if you really do need a referral. If you don't need a referral, then you can quit wasting your time waiting for one. Usually if you have medicare, you can go anywhere that accepts medicare. The same with medicaid. Make a few calls and MAKE SURE. You could be wasting valuable time. You need to be dealing with the financial departments of these doctor's offices. Some doctor's automatically assume you need a referral. That's the way it is if you have an HMO. HMO's only allow you to see doctor's within their network. Even then, I've found out that I don't need a referral IF I go within my own network. I used to waste a lot of time waiting for the referral letters to go through. Now I just make appointments within my network if I feel I need to see a specialist. My insurance has always paid.

Pontiacgp
02-11-2014, 06:46 PM
yes ive got medicaid,when i find a doctors office the first thing i ask is do they accept medicaid if not i say alright thanks,there isnt a spine doctor in my area,there used to be one i went to when i was younger but they stopped taking medicaid,i live in crandall,ga zip 30711,the closest one i could find is atlanta ga which is roughly 1 hr 45 mins away,with the pain managment doctor they said sometimes they accept medicaid and id have to have a referal

Pontiacgp
04-02-2014, 02:12 AM
Ok here's the update, I finally got into a spine specialist my self, apparently the doctors or nurses couldn't do their job cause there was one 20 miles from me and nobody knew and I called them myself but I get to go April 23rd and my pain is only worse and hopefully they will give me something, it sucks being homebound alot

rohrer01
04-02-2014, 03:35 AM
Pontiacgp,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but spine specialists RARELY prescribe pain meds. They leave that up to the pain specialists or your primary care physician (PCP). They are interested in treating you surgically and that's about it. So, if I were you, I wouldn't wait until the 23 to try to get some pain relief. Call your PCP.

Thanks for the update. That's GREAT news that you found a spine specialist so close. Make sure that s/he specializes in scoliosis. You need specialized care.

Let us know if you can get any pain meds on board until your appointment. I find that ibuprofen or naproxen sometimes work better than a narcotic, depending on the source of your pain.

Good Luck!

mabeckoff
04-02-2014, 10:01 AM
[QUOTE=rohrer01;158077]Pontiacgp,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but spine specialists RARELY prescribe pain meds. They leave that up to the pain specialists or your primary care physician (PCP). They are interested in treating you surgically and that's about it. So, if I were you, I wouldn't wait until the 23 to try to get some pain relief. Call your PCP.

/QUOTE]

Rohrer is correct. Do not wait for the spine doctor to prescribe you pain meds. Either go to pain management or your PCP

Melissa

Pontiacgp
04-02-2014, 08:11 PM
I'm still waiting to get into pain management,he does specialize on scoliosis, my pcp is only like diabetes, cholesterol, blood pressure and things along that line, they can't prescribe pain medication, they told me this doctor can give me something, I went to a ortho place and they literally did nothing but gave me mobic and flexaril which mobic did nothing and flexaril just made me sleepy and the ortho doc is trying to get me into pain management which is taking awhile so when I went to my pcp I told her I found a spine doctor and she referred me, so that's were I'm standing now