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rainbow2010
01-20-2014, 01:38 PM
I have been getting RF Ablations for several years now to treat my pain in my thoracic area due to disc degeneration. I was wondering if there were any permanent non-surgical options to end my nerve pain. I do well with the ablations, but the cost of getting them done every year is adding up. Any suggestions???

LindaRacine
01-20-2014, 03:39 PM
I have been getting RF Ablations for several years now to treat my pain in my thoracic area due to disc degeneration. I was wondering if there were any permanent non-surgical options to end my nerve pain. I do well with the ablations, but the cost of getting them done every year is adding up. Any suggestions???
Have you tried medication (e.g. gabapentin) or physical therapy?

rainbow2010
01-21-2014, 02:48 PM
I cannot take pain medicines as they cause other problems for me. As for therapy, I have been working out in a heated pool for years but that does not help with the pain caused by nerves getting squished. I have seen commercials for a laser therapy and I was wondering if any one knew about that - if it was just another for of an ablation or if it totally cut the nerve and permanently sealed the end.

LindaRacine
01-21-2014, 10:02 PM
Hi...

Neuronton isn't a pain medication, so you may find that you can take it. Nerve pain is not controlled very well by pain medication anyway.

I've never heard from anyone with scoliosis being helped by laser surgery.

--Linda

titaniumed
01-22-2014, 12:19 AM
RFA, or rhizotomy, is sometimes used to treat severe chronic pain in the lower (lumbar) back, where radio frequency waves are used to produce heat on specifically identified nerves surrounding the facet joints on either side of thelumbar spine. By generating heat around the nerve, its ability to transmit pain signals to the brain is destroyed, thus ablating the nerve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiofrequency_ablation

This is interesting.....I used hot hot soaks to control nerve pain at 106 degrees and it worked. Hot water is cheap therapy. I measured water temp with a spa thermometer each time.

I agree with Linda on pain medications not working on nerve pain.....They donít work worth a damn, thatís for sure.

Rainbow, How many times have you done the RF? How well does that work? Is it total pain relief, and how long does it last?

Ed

rainbow2010
01-22-2014, 12:21 PM
I have been getting ablations done for over 5 years. They last for about a year. I just have to get all the nerves from T2 - T12 on the right side done and the nerves fro T7 - T12 on the left side done. They do it in three sessions and with insurance paying less and less, my costs are getting pretty expensive. My husband recently took an early retirement and now I have to be on medicare. Even with a medadvantage plan I will have to pay 20% which will be over $500 each time.

loves to skate
01-22-2014, 02:01 PM
Hi Rainbow8, It's good to hear from you, but i am sorry about your pain. I went to a pain clinic and was told that Medicare would not pay for a nerve ablation in the lumbar area but a spinal nerve stimulator was suggested as a possible solution. I am thin and I did not want to have a unit implanted under my pelvic bone. Just one more position that would be uncomfortable to sleep in. I wish there really was a solution to nerve pain. I take neurontin and it works for me, but not completely. I keep wondering about acupuncture but haven't had the courage to try it yet. The disc above my fusion is degenerated and I really don't want to go for a revision since there are no guarantees of being pain free. Been there, done that. Let me know if you come up with a solution.
Hey everybody, stay warm. 28 degrees is eastern NC with a light dusting of snow. I thought I moved South to get away from the cold and snow.
Sally

titaniumed
01-23-2014, 01:08 AM
I guess the cost of pain relief is dependent on pain level.....The more it hurts, the more we will pay and or submit ourselves to. Pain is never a free thing....it always costs something.....

Insurance and costs are rising......We really have to stomach all of this and never mind the spine pain, the financials will kill us alone....

Sally, it looks as if this RF ablation might be something you could try for your disc....

On the subject of weather, I was reading about low temps in Florida, and down in Homestead, which is pretty much as far south as it gets in the US, the absolute low record was around 23 degrees F. If you want it warm all the time, you have to be closer to the Equator....

They have also had snow flurries reported in Miami in the past....

Ed

susancook
01-23-2014, 01:13 AM
Hi Rainbow8, It's good to hear from you, but i am sorry about your pain. I went to a pain clinic and was told that Medicare would not pay for a nerve ablation in the lumbar area but a spinal nerve stimulator was suggested as a possible solution. I am thin and I did not want to have a unit implanted under my pelvic bone. Just one more position that would be uncomfortable to sleep in. I wish there really was a solution to nerve pain. I take neurontin and it works for me, but not completely. I keep wondering about acupuncture but haven't had the courage to try it yet. The disc above my fusion is degenerated and I really don't want to go for a revision since there are no guarantees of being pain free. Been there, done that. Let me know if you come up with a solution.
Hey everybody, stay warm. 28 degrees is eastern NC with a light dusting of snow. I thought I moved South to get away from the cold and snow.
Sally
Sally, are you saying that preop, before spinal surgery, that Medicare would not pay for an RF? I have had 3 done, all paid by Medicare. Susan

jrnyc
01-23-2014, 02:27 AM
never got much relief from nerve ablation...
so if it lasts a year for someone, i think they are very lucky.
i have never had ANY injection last a year with pain relief...
not one....

i am hoping to get some relief from steroid shot Friday with the
lowest dose possible...so as not to upset my cortisol level....
i would not dare go back for another one if this one does not help.

am hoping Amtrak will be running enuf trains by Friday for me to
get into Manhattan for appointment.
right now, early Thursday morning, it is 1 degree in northeast
CT, 8 inches of snow is finished, and wind is picking up....
ugh....not best weather for train platforms! hope i get to pain
doc on time, and not frozen solid.

jess...and Sparky

rainbow2010
01-23-2014, 10:58 AM
I used Neuronton for nerve pain when I had my neck fused. I took it for 2 weeks and it helped while the nerve healed. It did nothing for the nerve pain in my thoracic area. I don't mind getting ablations done but I was just wondering if there was any permanent way to stop the nerve from growing back.

loves to skate
01-25-2014, 04:12 PM
Sally, are you saying that preop, before spinal surgery, that Medicare would not pay for an RF? I have had 3 done, all paid by Medicare. Susan

Susan, This was last year, five years post fusion. I might have been given the wrong information.
Sally

loves to skate
01-25-2014, 04:18 PM
Sally, are you saying that preop, before spinal surgery, that Medicare would not pay for an RF? I have had 3 done, all paid by Medicare. Susan
Susan, The information I got about the nerve ablation was from a pain clinic in Raleigh recommended to my by Dr. Hey. It was at least a year ago, five years post-op. It is possible that I was given the wrong information.
Sally