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Irina
08-15-2012, 06:15 PM
Do you always have to log-roll after the surgery or you only do it during initial healing? Also, if you are fused to the sacrum, how do you get in and out of a dentist’s chair? Do you always ask your dentist to move the back of the chair up and then down after you get in that chair? Let alone some other chairs… (Women will understand what I mean). I hope there are some creative ways to climb up there after a fusion.

loves to skate
08-15-2012, 07:39 PM
Logrolling is good for everyone. It takes the strain off of the lumbar spine. At some point after surgery you probably will be able to sit up without logrolling, but if you do, you should use your elbows to assist you.
Sally

titaniumed
08-15-2012, 08:00 PM
Is log rolling forever?

Yes, and no.

I started sitting up rather than log rolling out of bed after about 8 months....My surgeon told me that I was ok in doing this. Log rolling really is an easier way to get out of bed and I still do it most of the time. Positioning yourself getting into bed is something that you have to be careful with because if you lay down too close to the headboard, your head will hit and you will need to be creative in getting yourself out of that predicament. Moving up and down the bed after laying down is pretty much impossible. For a reposition, you have to log roll back out and try it again.

It seems that many of the motions that I did before my surgeries came unexpectedly in my recovery. All of a sudden I was bending over rather than squatting to pick things up probably due to healing and being lazy....Return to normalcy does happen...I know it doesn’t seem that way while doing a recovery but it does happen. I think it happens when you finally get scoliosis off your mind.

Dealing with dentist chairs can require some thought, its just something that has to be tackled when it happens. I think they raise the back up for me? I really don’t know anymore because my recovery is complete. I have adjusted and these sorts of things don’t even matter anymore.

I had all my Dental work done right before my surgeries. This is a good thing to do....you don’t want to have dental issues during your recovery.

Ed

bluestone
08-16-2012, 09:20 AM
I'm 22 months post op and still log roll. I have tried to get up the normal way but find it really difficult and it's quite uncomfortable. This could be because there's a possibility my metalwork may have to come out because I have pain in the middle of my back.

I have heard though that's it's better to carry in log rolling because you should avoid things that can put pressure on any remaining discs. I always log rolled before surgery too because of pain so I guess it's become a habit :)

Doreen1
08-16-2012, 09:26 AM
I had my teeth cleaned at about 6 months postop and the tech raised the seat and brought the back upright. I backed up to the seat and sat down sideways then carefully pushed back onto the seat and slowly brought my legs over. The whole time I slowly slid back into position of the chair because of the leather-like covering on the chair, it was a lot easier than I expected. Getting out was not so bad, my daughter had to pull me out toward the edge of the seat so I could stand up. The bigger challenge was my annual gyno exam getting into position for that.

Warmly,
Doreen

Irina
08-16-2012, 11:58 AM
I had my teeth cleaned at about 6 months postop and the tech raised the seat and brought the back upright. I backed up to the seat and sat down sideways then carefully pushed back onto the seat and slowly brought my legs over. The whole time I slowly slid back into position of the chair because of the leather-like covering on the chair, it was a lot easier than I expected. Getting out was not so bad, my daughter had to pull me out toward the edge of the seat so I could stand up. The bigger challenge was my annual gyno exam getting into position for that.

Warmly,
Doreen

This is a very helpful answer, Doreen. I have a lot of dental problems and dentists love me. Legacy of a former Soviet dental care... Something always comes up and I am sure that I would have to visit my dentist during recovery (at least for cleaning). You have to take antibiotics for two years before any dental procedure, right?

Another question - when can you go to a hairdresser and how do you handle washing hair overthere? Is it better to just ask a hairdresser to spray hair and do not bother with that thing for hair washing? At what point did you feel comfortable sitting in a hairdresser chair for just a basic haircut?

Confusedmom
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
I got a haircut at about 4 months post-op, and it was fine. I think whenever you feel comfortable sitting that long. I did wash my hair at home in the shower first and went in with wet hair. I can't really imagine leaning back in those awful seats to get my hair washed. My kids' haircut place has a "bed" for them to lay down on for washing. Seems like a great idea!!

I don't know if logrolling is forever. But it definitely hurts at 5+ months if I don't do it right. Have to remember to tighten those abs!

Doodles
08-16-2012, 01:51 PM
I'm still log rolling. Sometimes I try to go back to how I used to do it, but I forgot how I did it. Log-rolling works fine. Janet

Doreen1
08-16-2012, 03:22 PM
This is a very helpful answer, Doreen. I have a lot of dental problems and dentists love me. Legacy of a former Soviet dental care... Something always comes up and I am sure that I would have to visit my dentist during recovery (at least for cleaning). You have to take antibiotics for two years before any dental procedure, right?

Another question - when can you go to a hairdresser and how do you handle washing hair overthere? Is it better to just ask a hairdresser to spray hair and do not bother with that thing for hair washing? At what point did you feel comfortable sitting in a hairdresser chair for just a basic haircut?

Correct on the antibiotics. Several days after I was released from the hospital but before we headed back to Atlanta, I had to return for final postop pix at Lenke's office. That same day, I went to the hospital hair salon where they washed/dried my hair. They put me in a regular shampoo chair and used lots of rolled up towels to keep me comfy. I was on lots of meds too but the staff were so incredibly nice. I do remember them saying, "We do this all the time." Such a blessing to have the salon in the hospital!

I believe I was around 2 months postop and I desperately needed a haircut. I planned it so that I took my meds right before the appointment and had the next round of meds in my purse. My stylist put me in one particular shampoo chair that laid farther back than the other chairs and I brought some pillows too. I did need hubby's help getting out of that chair and felt very lighted headed too once I was sitting up. My stylist gave me juice to sip on which helped immensely. It was definitely one of my first big outings. We ate lunch on the way home, took my meds, and by the time we got home, I was physically wiped out. It was probably a 3 hour journey (drive time, salon, lunch).

6 weeks later I brought my pillows again for a haircut, still needed a little help getting out of the shampoo chair, but it was better than I expected. I no longer bring my pillows with me and my stylist is such a sweetheart; always concerned about my comfort.

Warmly,
Doreen

Irina
08-16-2012, 04:31 PM
You all are so nice answering my never ending questions! Thank you so much!

Another chair question - pedicure chair. I think I read somewhere that you should not bend your legs more than 90 degrees. So, when you are getting pedicure, you have to lift your legs a bit and put them on that little step while they work on your toenails. Is that Ok after the fusion? When can you concur that chair?

Confusedmom
08-18-2012, 11:14 PM
Some pedicure chairs allow you to recline a bit (the massaging ones). I had no trouble with the bending after I was ready to sit in a chair long enough for a pedi. (Probably 4 months.)

Susie*Bee
08-25-2012, 03:53 PM
The bigger challenge was my annual gyno exam getting into position for that.

Warmly,
Doreen

My doctor doesn't make me scoot forward. He says that is for the convenience of the doctor and is not necessary. So I've had my last 5 paps with just my feet in the stirrups, etc., without having to move forward. Just FYI. I do still log-roll for everything. My surgeon told me to for life, so I will. But then, I'm just fused to L4 and need to be careful of my lower vertebrae. Log-rolling is second nature to me now...

Irina
08-25-2012, 04:23 PM
My doctor doesn't make me scoot forward. He says that is for the convenience of the doctor and is not necessary. So I've had my last 5 paps with just my feet in the stirrups, etc., without having to move forward. Just FYI. I do still log-roll for everything. My surgeon told me to for life, so I will. But then, I'm just fused to L4 and need to be careful of my lower vertebrae. Log-rolling is second nature to me now...

That is good to know, Susie. Thanks!

mdtaffet
08-27-2012, 12:12 AM
You have to take antibiotics for two years before any dental procedure, right?

Another question - when can you go to a hairdresser and how do you handle washing hair overthere? Is it better to just ask a hairdresser to spray hair and do not bother with that thing for hair washing? At what point did you feel comfortable sitting in a hairdresser chair for just a basic haircut?

I don't recall hearing anything about antibiotics before a dental procedure. I had my teeth cleaned about 3 months after surgery, and there were no antibiotics at all. I then had a crown recemented a few weeks ago after it popped off the second time.

The Saturday after my dressing came off (during the 2nd week after surgery), I went to my regular hair dresser and had him shampoo my hair. I see him roughly every 7 weeks. I had seen him about two weeks before the surgery, and I had already scheduled another appointment for 7 weeks later. I kept that appointment (about a month after surgery), and have seen him every 7 weeks since then. He was very careful with me, and it felt so good to have really clean hair.

By about 6 weeks after surgery, I was washing my own hair in the shower while standing up, just like I always had before the surgery.

-- Mary

mabeckoff
08-27-2012, 07:02 PM
I don't recall hearing anything about antibiotics before a dental procedure. I had my teeth cleaned about 3 months after surgery, and there were no antibiotics at all. I then had a crown recemented a few weeks ago after it popped off the second time.


-- Mary

Yes Dr Bederman requires antibiotics before a dental procedure

gmw
08-27-2012, 08:57 PM
I still log roll after 2 years. It has become second nature. Don't know if I could get up any other way. I don't even try.

Also, I take antibiotics before dental procedures. I had some minor surgery on my eyelid a couple of weeks ago and was told I needed to take the antibiotics before that procedure also. I take them 1 hour prior to the procedures. None afterward. It's my understanding this will be on-going.... :)

susancook
09-07-2012, 03:00 AM
I know that this is a dumb question and I can hear everyone laughing now....but....I know what log rolling is, but I am having trouble visualizing how you do it. So, wouldn't you roll out of bed onto the floor? So you roll to the edge, but how do you get your feet on the floor and your body upright? I have been log rolling for many years due to back pain, but when I push with my arms to sit up [when I am on my side] and swing my legs over the side, I seem to bend A LOT at the waist. I bet Doreen has a video of how to do this! I'll see if I can find it.
Until I find it, stop laughing and help me understand the action here. Susan

hasteffen
09-07-2012, 03:18 AM
Doreen has a great blog on here with a video demonstrating log rolling.

rohrer01
09-07-2012, 11:26 AM
I have to log roll in order to get out of bed and I haven't had surgery. My bed has a headboard that I can grab on to (it's a four poster bed). I do the roll with the assistance of the headboard. I roll to the left since that's the side I sleep on. I grab the headboard with my right hand and roll my whole body onto my left side. Then with one fell swoop swing my legs to the floor and the torso automatically sits up with that motion. When I worked in the nursing homes, that's how I would help the people get into a sitting position. It works wonderfully and there is no motion in the back at all if done correctly. I have my better days when I can jump out of bed, but for the most part this is how I do it. I find it very difficult to get out of a bed that doesn't have a headboard (on bad pain days). I also have an adjustable bed without a headboard that I often lay in when I'm in pain. If I can't get out of that bed, I raise the head so that I just need to swing my legs over. Anyway, this is what works for me. =)