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gardenia
05-23-2012, 05:30 PM
I found this website a couple of months ago and have found many answers and things to think about.

Intro: I have double scoliosis since I was 12. Back 50 years ago the recommendation was to stay in a cast for 3-6months pre and post op. Then about 3-5 years do the same to tighten the springs. Quite scary so I wore a brace for 2 years. I grew up very rectangular with everything crooked inside (I think that even my mind got a bit too). I was born and raised in Panama and had a great life, fantastic high school years etc. Came to San Francisco, Ca for College. Visited 2-3 orthopedic doctors that did not show any great interest in convincing me to have a fusion. So, I depended on chiropractors and massages to get me thru.

Got married and had two incredibly painful pregnancies as I could not walk much but the deliveries were no-drug, short hours, 8 1/2 lbs and 7 1/2 pound girls four years apart. As the girls headed to college, my bones, joints and empty nest syndrome made us look for future retirement communities (warm, semi tropical, ocean/sea view. and close to an airport).

I worked for very large corporations during my career and travelled about 1/3 of the time to Latin America. I decided that I did not want to work anymore after the last layoff my husband continues to work.

We found a community in Baja California in Mexico. Two hours by car across the California eastern border in San Felipe. Decision based on the beautiful location (whole view of the Sea of Cortez, huge ranges of different colors mountain while standing in the desert) the cost of land and building, and proximity to US doctors and feasability of having regular visits from our girls. Both are pursuing their PhD so the house we built with indoor courtyard, pool, casita for them, outside BBQ etc was mainly a place to wait for them to settle and have a family. At this rate it will be some years more before even grandkids.

Now after living here for 3 years, my back seems to be hurting more than ever. Went to San Diego for a consultation then flew to St Louis, Mo to get a second opinion with Dr Bridwell. I spent 3 weeks in May, returning in the end of july for a flouroscopy before they would schedule any surgery 2-3 months out.

My obsession-anxiety-preoccupation is a selfish one. After the surgery, it will be all on me and the family supporting but my pains, my depressions, my inability to do things independently, having to give up my independence. I am worried about the recovery from intensive care to release from the hospital to a temporary place with my daughter in St Louis to back home to San Felipe to complete recovery. There are 3 plane changes and 2 hour drive down to Mexico home.

San Felipe is a fishing village with great local folks and thousands of ex-patriots but no medical facility for emergencies. Not a lot of friends nor activities conducive to stress relief.

Apologize for being so long with this introduction. My problem is that I am very anxious about the recovery. The Dr in San Diego told me that hospital stay about a week and 2-3 weeks in a rehab center. I rather be somewhere with strangers for a week to learn how to move and when to exercise.

Has anyone felt or done a rehab after surgery in order to learn how to move, stand, sit, turn before going home? If the question I am asking has been answered before, please let me know where to find the answers. I have read many of the latest surgery and recovery progress but would like the smaller details that newbies might not understand or relate.

Thank you

Gardenia

titaniumed
05-23-2012, 06:54 PM
Gardenia,

Welcome to the forum.

Very interesting intro.....Being a diver, I know the sea of Cortez...and have traveled all over South America.....In fact Iím overdue for a trip, its killing me. (smiley face)

I would say that rehab would be a great idea since you live in San Felipe. They will not release you from the hospital unless you are hunky dory. They will get you up right away, standing in a day, walking in a day or two......

Hula hoops and pulling weeds comes a little later. Many of us full fusion patients like to pull weeds!

Did any surgeon mention which levels they propose to fuse, and would it be a posterior only?

Ed

Doodles
05-23-2012, 10:59 PM
Gardenia--
Welcome to the forum. Based on your info we must be close in age. Yes, I did do rehab. Did 8 days in the hospital and then 8 days in rehab. I think it was really beneficial for me mostly just to be monitored and to help regulate the pain before going home. I hope you find lots of helpful info here!

Also, I am now convinced Ed is not a real person--he has lived far too many lives & done more stuff than anyone I know! Perhaps Super TiEd needs his own TV series. I'm so glad he's here to keep things lively! Janet

Jenna.KB
05-24-2012, 03:01 AM
Hi Gardenia
Welcome!
Where you live sounds gorgeous. Living in the UK we don't get much nice whether and I love the sun.
As Ed says, the hospital won't discharge you until you can sit, stand and walk and due to your circumstances rehab sounds like a good option.

I hope you find lots of helpful from others

Jenna.

gardenia
05-25-2012, 09:56 AM
Hi Gardenia
Welcome!
Where you live sounds gorgeous. Living in the UK we don't get much nice whether and I love the sun.
As Ed says, the hospital won't discharge you until you can sit, stand and walk and due to your circumstances rehab sounds like a good option.

I hope you find lots of helpful from others

Jenna.

Thanks Jenna and all the responses. The place is paradise but I cannot live in a secluded place at 62 without a purpose. I believe that there was a reason for everything that happens in life. I should have been less against having a rod many years ago.

I read that many having had the surgery end up walking miles per day. In my condition the longest I walk is at a mall because I get distracted with things and ignore the walk. Never did formal exercise because each time I go to pt or class, I would end up with days in bed due to pain. So now, I am worried about the pre-op being fit, I am as fit as I can be. I went into our coutyard pool last week to swim and to float and play around. 3 days later my hips were in such excruciating pain that I could not stand nor lay down for 2 days.

I am over thinking the future and really afraid of the first 3 months. After the hospital, my husband and I will be staying with our 23 year old youngest daughter who is a grad student in WashU in medical research. Last year, we bought her a 2/2 condo for her while doing her PhD. Problems #1 is that it is on the third floor.

#2 is my cat follows me everywhere who sleeps or nap nearby me within a foot . Daughter#1 is no problem as is doing her PhD in Columbia (2 hrs away). We are all from California. My cat resides in Mexico and hates being transported in the car for 2 hours to our El Centro (California border town) rented apt where my husband must work on US Soil. I am planning to stay in St Louis for minimum of 2 months maybe up to 4. My husband will be we me the first month then back to take me home. I want my cat but it requires a 2 hr drive and 3 airplanes to reach St Louis. He is an indoor cat and seldom used the carrier much less being in an airplane. He will be extremely vocal.

Again, I write a lot and I apologize hopefully it will entertain you even though I am looking for moral & emotional support that might not be here for something that is only in my worrying mind.

mabeckoff
05-25-2012, 10:04 AM
As far as your cat goes, go to the vet and a tranquilizer. Both of our cats survived a plane ride from NC to CA. They slept in the carrier under neath the seat and were fine when they arrived in CA.

gardenia
05-25-2012, 10:11 AM
Gardenia,

Welcome to the forum.

Very interesting intro.....Being a diver, I know the sea of Cortez...and have traveled all over South America.....In fact Iím overdue for a trip, its killing me. (smiley face)

I would say that rehab would be a great idea since you live in San Felipe. They will not release you from the hospital unless you are hunky dory. They will get you up right away, standing in a day, walking in a day or two......

Hula hoops and pulling weeds comes a little later. Many of us full fusion patients like to pull weeds!

Did any surgeon mention which levels they propose to fuse, and would it be a posterior only?

Ed

Thanks ED,

Dr Bridwell prosoped T3 to sacrum and pelvis procedure. In the report, he mentions " have to make use of hooks, screws at the top on the concave left side, good true AP of the lumar spine but not the thoracic spine"

Saw in once, ran a bunch of tests and hundred more xrays, lung test etc. Asked for a written report as there was not need for another visit with him until they have all my medical records and getting a flouroscopy by him at the next available apptmt in July. Wish this could have been done within the 3 weeks of my initial visit. Until this is done, surgery cannot be scheduled and it would be at least 2+ months out.

gardenia
05-25-2012, 10:16 AM
As far as your cat goes, go to the vet and a tranquilizer. Both of our cats survived a plane ride from NC to CA. They slept in the carrier under neath the seat and were fine when they arrived in CA.

I read that sedation is bad for cats and/or dogs. I just hate the thought of my cat loudly protesting in the cabin like children playing games with sounds, or screaming the entire flight.... I will look into tranquilizers. Gracias.

mabeckoff
05-25-2012, 11:05 AM
I read that sedation is bad for cats and/or dogs. I just hate the thought of my cat loudly protesting in the cabin like children playing games with sounds, or screaming the entire flight.... I will look into tranquilizers. Gracias.

Our vet game us a couple of pills prior to the plane trip so we could decide how much they need. It works fine for us. When we arrived they woke up and were fine.

loves to skate
05-25-2012, 11:41 AM
Welcome Gardenia,

I spent 11 days in rehab between my posterior(5 days in hospital) and anterior(5 days in hospital) surgeries where I learned to walk, climb stairs, get into and out of a shower/bathtub and to take care of myself. I would highly recommend a rehab hospital. We moved to North Carolina to be near water, warm weather, excellent medical care and an airport. Love it here but wish we had mountain views. I guess you can't have everything.
Sally

jrnyc
05-25-2012, 09:00 PM
i believe it is best to keep pet in carrier under seat, unless it is a large
animal....
would be very worried about any animal flying in cargo...
there is an airline that only flies animals...not sure of cost...

jess...& Sparky

mabeckoff
05-25-2012, 10:11 PM
i believe it is best to keep pet in carrier under seat, unless it is a large
animal....
would be very worried about any animal flying in cargo...
there is an airline that only flies animals...not sure of cost...

jess...& Sparky

I am sorry if I did not make that clear. Yes the cats were in the plane with us under the seat.

jrnyc
05-25-2012, 10:31 PM
thought you meant crying from cargo....i heard that once...
very upsetting to listen to!!!
cannot imagine how loud a cat could get within the cabin....
i have flown lots of times with people who have animals
under seat...they usually slept the whole flight....

jess

mabeckoff
05-25-2012, 10:51 PM
thought you meant crying from cargo....i heard that once...
very upsetting to listen to!!!
cannot imagine how loud a cat could get within the cabin....
i have flown lots of times with people who have animals
under seat...they usually slept the whole flight....

jess

When my son lifted the carrier from underneath the seat, the person sitting next to him could not believe that there was a cat there. He was so good.

JenniferG
05-26-2012, 01:25 AM
Wow, I never knew you could bring your cat with you in the cabin. I once flew from Honolulu to Sydney on a cargo flight, with horses just through the wall from me. They made a lot of loud banging noises and the wall seemed thin.

It's hard to give up your independence. But it's good if you can just sort of, capitulate. Know that it's necessary/helpful to have the assistance for a short time and just accept it with grace. People do like to help. One never knows when one might need help in their lives.

For most of us facing this surgery, there are brick walls in the way, but one by one, they come down and things work out. In the big scheme of things, it's just a short period of our lives, then life will go on. You come out of it a different person I believe, happier, more grateful, more empathetic and in my case, much braver than pre-op! Best of luck!

gardenia
05-27-2012, 02:34 PM
Many airlines allow small animals $75 each way that would fit under the seat. I was told that middle seat is the largest space for under seat spaces. A friend of mine moved from San francisco to No. Carolina a couple of months ago. They pay extra with United for a pet section under the cargo but apparently air controlled and it is not among suitcases. The animals got there happy.

Poor cat will be upset not seeing me for 2-3 months as I will stay in St Louis but I am concerned the trauma of travelling.
But, he will provide me the company I need.

He is coming...

mabeckoff
05-27-2012, 03:20 PM
There really is no trauma with traveling. He will be with you the entire time. Go talk to your vet about it and he will give you a pill that will will make him very sleepy .Will you be by yourself when traveling? The cost last year was $125 per pet flying.

gardenia
05-27-2012, 04:02 PM
My husband will be with me both ways on the airplane. I can hardly walk by myself much less carry my 16lb black 8yr old cat. I will ask my vet here in Mexico. Do we have to have a good health certificate issued by a US Vet when travelling in the US?

What about water and food? Change of pads in case of accidents? I also read that we cannot take him out at all on the plane nor in the airport.

Thanks for responding, everyone.

mabeckoff
05-27-2012, 06:13 PM
My husband will be with me both ways on the airplane. I can hardly walk by myself much less carry my 16lb black 8yr old cat. I will ask my vet here in Mexico. Do we have to have a good health certificate issued by a US Vet when travelling in the US?

What about water and food? Change of pads in case of accidents? I also read that we cannot take him out at all on the plane nor in the airport.

Thanks for responding, everyone.

I would check with the airline about the health certificate .That is a good question. Also, make your airline reservation via the phone so you can make a reservation for the cat at the same time. Depending on what airline you are using, they have a maximum number of pets allowed on each flight. As for food and water, neither of my cats wanted anything to eat or drink. All they did was sleep. They ,also, did not soil the pad in the carrier either. However, when they get to the destination and were let out, they wanted the litter box and food.

Jenna.KB
05-28-2012, 05:56 AM
Thanks Jenna and all the responses. The place is paradise but I cannot live in a secluded place at 62 without a purpose. I believe that there was a reason for everything that happens in life. I should have been less against having a rod many years ago.

I read that many having had the surgery end up walking miles per day. In my condition the longest I walk is at a mall because I get distracted with things and ignore the walk. Never did formal exercise because each time I go to pt or class, I would end up with days in bed due to pain. So now, I am worried about the pre-op being fit, I am as fit as I can be. I went into our coutyard pool last week to swim and to float and play around. 3 days later my hips were in such excruciating pain that I could not stand nor lay down for 2 days.

I am over thinking the future and really afraid of the first 3 months. After the hospital, my husband and I will be staying with our 23 year old youngest daughter who is a grad student in WashU in medical research. Last year, we bought her a 2/2 condo for her while doing her PhD. Problems #1 is that it is on the third floor.

#2 is my cat follows me everywhere who sleeps or nap nearby me within a foot . Daughter#1 is no problem as is doing her PhD in Columbia (2 hrs away). We are all from California. My cat resides in Mexico and hates being transported in the car for 2 hours to our El Centro (California border town) rented apt where my husband must work on US Soil. I am planning to stay in St Louis for minimum of 2 months maybe up to 4. My husband will be we me the first month then back to take me home. I want my cat but it requires a 2 hr drive and 3 airplanes to reach St Louis. He is an indoor cat and seldom used the carrier much less being in an airplane. He will be extremely vocal.

Again, I write a lot and I apologize hopefully it will entertain you even though I am looking for moral & emotional support that might not be here for something that is only in my worrying mind.

:-) I always get distracted too, usually buying shoes.

Don't worry about your post, your worries and concerns I think are completely normal but as Jennifer says, this will be such a short time in your life and slowly but surely you will sort everything out ready for your recovery.
I think staying with your daughter sounds like a good plan. It might take you a while to walk up to the 3rd floor to her place but i'm sure that to start with just walking around her home will be enough for you, then maybe trying the stairs then eventually outstide for a walk. Just one step at a time and you'll be fine :-)
Don't know about cats, I didn't know they could fly with you either but hopefully you will find a way to get him/her there with you comfortably.

Jenna