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golfnut
11-11-2010, 09:37 AM
I have given blood in the past, but haven't decided for sure if I am going to donate for my surgery. I don't relish the idea of making trips to the hospital during the month of Dec. when I want to be living life as normally as possible before my surgery, however, I will if it's the best thing to do. Did all of you "on the other side" donate your own blood?

leahdragonfly
11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
Hi Karen,

My surgeon did not allow me to donate blood pre-op. He wanted me to come to surgery completely tanked up, so to speak. As it was I received 4 units of blood during my 8 hours of surgery, and a few days later, I was quite anemic, so I had two more units.

In a way it was a relief to not have to worry about donating. The run-up to surgery is so full of anxiety and worries anyway, to throw multiple blood donations in the mix would have been no fun. But, I know many here have pre-donated blood including teenagers, and did ok. If you search the archives there are threads about this that you may find useful, also.

Good luck and hang tough. This period of waiting to surgery is so hard!

Gayle

rainbow2010
11-11-2010, 10:03 AM
They didn't let you donate blood when I had my surgery. My daughter donated blood for her surgery. You recover better when you have your own blood. You can reject blood donated by others, and it can cause major problems.

jrnyc
11-11-2010, 10:42 AM
i have never head of anyone "rejecting" donated blood...i thought all blood is now screened for hepatitis, AIDS, etc...

how/why would one reject blood donated if it is the correct blood type for the person receiving it...??
i read something about chance of allergic reaction between immune system and proteins in the donated blood, but it is supposedly very rare, and can even be treated by a doctor, so the transfusion can continue...
is that what you were referring to?

i just noticed that your surgery was in 1975...35 years ago...i am sure blood screening in the blood banks is much safer now than it was 35 years ago!

jess

jesscv
11-11-2010, 11:09 AM
my doc also recommended i didn't donate my own blood prior to surgery. his reason was that donating autologous blood preoperatively can be a bit of a catch 22…in that it would be a “waste” of my blood (and my time), since the process of donating blood often results in anemia. And, obviously, if I was anemic going in, my changes of requiring a transfusion would increase. basically, with an extensive surgery like this, i was going to lose blood no matter what, and while a transfusion wasn't anticipated in my case, i did end up needing one anyway (only because i had to have a second, unexpected surgery the day after my first surgery!), but i did just fine with getting blood from the bank.

my doc also said that it is much better to go into surgery with a full reserve. It will help patients recover more quickly and completely. By donating blood before surgery you deplete not only your red blood cell but also your white blood cells, and platelets as well as the plasma and any other nutrients in your blood – leading to a depleted reserve.

naptown78
11-11-2010, 11:14 AM
my doc also recommended i didn't donate my own blood prior to surgery. his reason was that donating autologous blood preoperatively can be a bit of a catch 22…in that it would be a “waste” of my blood (and my time), since the process of donating blood often results in anemia. And, obviously, if I was anemic going in, my changes of requiring a transfusion would increase. basically, with an extensive surgery like this, i was going to lose blood no matter what, and while a transfusion wasn't anticipated in my case, i did end up needing one anyway (only because i had to have a second, unexpected surgery the day after my first surgery!), but i did just fine with getting blood from the bank.

my doc also said that it is much better to go into surgery with a full reserve. It will help patients recover more quickly and completely. By donating blood before surgery you deplete not only your red blood cell but also your white blood cells, and platelets as well as the plasma and any other nutrients in your blood – leading to a depleted reserve.


This is exactly what my surgeon said to me...I ended up needing 6 units for my second surgery this year. I felt completely comfortable receiving blood from the blood bank.
And there is no way I could have donated that much blood in time for my surgery and then replenished it on my own.

kennedy
11-11-2010, 11:43 AM
well i didn't donate my blood because it was way to late to because my surgery was the day after my preop appt

Doodles
11-11-2010, 01:00 PM
Karen--
I agree with all of the above. You want to be in top shape for surgery. I didn't donate but was given 4 units during surgery and another 4 about 8 days later. The blood banks are very safe now from everything I read at the time. Save your strength and time!

Snoopy
11-11-2010, 04:21 PM
i have never head of anyone "rejecting" donated blood...i thought all blood is now screened for hepatitis, AIDS, etc...

how/why would one reject blood donated if it is the correct blood type for the person receiving it...??
i read something about chance of allergic reaction between immune system and proteins in the donated blood, but it is supposedly very rare, and can even be treated by a doctor, so the transfusion can continue...
is that what you were referring to?

i just noticed that your surgery was in 1975...35 years ago...i am sure blood screening in the blood banks is much safer now than it was 35 years ago!

jess

Rejecting blood has nothing to do with the screening process. I know someone who had a reaction to donated blood, only problem is, I have to think who it is so I can ask for details!

Mary Lou

doodie
11-11-2010, 04:23 PM
Ditto to all those stating they didn't donate blood prior to surgery.

My surgeon is also opposed to donating your own - I wouldn't have been able to give enough anyway as I needed 7 units of platelets and plasma durning the surgery and then a 2 unit transfusion on the morning of Day 3.

If you don't have to do it, you can feel safe using blanked blood.
Just my two cents.....

golfnut
11-11-2010, 05:24 PM
Thanks, to all of you who responded. After reading your comments, I am not going to donate my own blood unless Dr. Lenke thinks it's for the best.
Thanks, again.

LisaB
11-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Dr Bridwell would not let me donate my own blood. Wanted me fully leaded so to speak. I ended up only needing one unit of bank blood during surgery.

Susie*Bee
11-11-2010, 06:54 PM
I guess I'll be one who says I did. I worked hard at it, but was able to donate 4 units of blood. I know I've read you build it back up fairly quickly. My surgeon preferred having my own blood, so I did my part to try to do it. They used all 4 units, plus the cell saver blood from the surgery itself.

loves to skate
11-11-2010, 08:12 PM
Some people build up blood quickly and some don't. Usually young people and men have no trouble building blood back up. Older women and people who no longer eat lots of red meat build blood up slowly. You can take iron if you want to get constipated. As a registered medical technologist, I worked in blood banks for years. We saw women try to donate for their own surgery only to have to be transfused before going into surgery. It is not worth it in my opinion. I would have donated one unit if I hadn't come down with a horrible cold five weeks before my surgery. Consequently, I didn't donate.

True transfusion reactions are extremely rare. Sometimes people break out in hives or spike a low grade fever, but that can happen getting back your own blood because you could be reacting to the anticoagulant or the plastic tubing. Some people react to the white blood cells in blood, but most blood is filtered now when it is drawn to take out the wbc's . A true transfusion reaction can happen if the patient has been sensitized through pregnancy (usually an Rh negative mother with a baby that is Rh positive) but with the use of RhoGam, that never happens as long as the mother is given RhoGam. There are other antigen-antibody systems that can cause transfusion reactions, but testing is very sensitive now and usually are picked up during screenings. That is why you will probably have a sample of blood drawn at pretesting and sent to the blood bank for testing prior to your surgery.

I hope this helps and isn't too technical. Sally

Mojo's Mom
11-11-2010, 08:17 PM
I am not "on the other side", but for what it's worth, my surgeon also said he preferred that I not bank my own blood, for all the reasons previously mentioned.

kyra2004
11-11-2010, 09:45 PM
I donated blood for my daughter. Usually like everyone else had said they dont advise you to donate your own blood. But myself and my family donated for my daughter. I felt better knowing that she was getting my blood and not a strangers. The doctor just has to write you a prescription and state how many units will be needed and then your family can contact the special donations office at your local blood bank to donate.

Jacque's Mom
11-12-2010, 12:23 PM
Dr. Boachie wants me to donate. My surgery is December 7th so I donated my first this past Monday and have two more to go 11/15 and 11/22. It was a bit of a process finding the vein. After the blood pressure cuff was put on, it worked better, but it took forever. I don't mind donating but the vitamens that I have to take from now until the day before surgery really upsets my stomach. All the medications I'm on have zero side effects, but these vitamens do a job on me. I hope I don't need the transfusions, even though I am paying close to $450 for the processing. I would imagine it goes into the blood bank? Best of luck to all, LYNN

golfnut
11-12-2010, 12:44 PM
It seems odd that you have to pay $450 for the processing. If you don't need your own blood, wouldn't it just go into the blood bank? I guess I'll see what Dr. Lenke says on Wed. I'm sure hoping that I don't have to donate my own blood. Dr. Lenke's nurse talked about setting up a schedule for donating, but I'm hoping that's because she thinks I want to donate.

jennilynn
11-16-2010, 05:19 PM
My daughter's daughter wants her to donate once; and then her dad and I do so as well. He said he'll use hers first, then ours.

The blood bank can only use the blood within 28 days of donation. Several days waste during the processing of it... I know if insurance doesn't cover it in San Diego, they charge $325 for her to donate for herself. I can have up to 10 people donate for her and it's a $55 charge for our "file" set up fee. I think they charge because it's not for the "general use"; and they have to cover their lab testing fees in case the blood can't be used by the "expiration date" after her surgery. Here's to hoping she won't need it!

Surgery is 12/13, she's 12 and scared!!

Susie*Bee
11-16-2010, 06:03 PM
Why do you have to pay? I did mine through the American Red Cross and there was no charge... That seems really strange that there would be a processing fee. And that seems really steep!

And no, I know it doesn't go into the blood bank. It's for your use only.

LaurieAnne
11-16-2010, 07:07 PM
Hi all,

Originally I was hoping I could donate my own blood for surgery but Dr. Lenke basically said "No" without saying that exact word. In his opinion a MAJOR contributing factor to infection is people donating their own blood because it wears down the immune system and your body's reserves leaving you vulnerable. He said he truly believes this is why he hasn't had a patient develop an infection in a very long time. Once he explained that I felt better about getting donations from others though I would still prefer it be from my family members if possible. Just something to think about ~ hope it helps ;)

fashionista
11-17-2010, 02:25 AM
Dr. Boachie wants me to donate. My surgery is December 7th so I donated my first this past Monday and have two more to go 11/15 and 11/22. It was a bit of a process finding the vein. After the blood pressure cuff was put on, it worked better, but it took forever. I don't mind donating but the vitamens that I have to take from now until the day before surgery really upsets my stomach. All the medications I'm on have zero side effects, but these vitamens do a job on me. I hope I don't need the transfusions, even though I am paying close to $450 for the processing. I would imagine it goes into the blood bank? Best of luck to all, LYNN

What are the vitamins and which brand are you taking? I'm thinking to donate my own blood as well.

jrnyc
11-17-2010, 07:35 AM
hi jennilynn
your poor little girl...i feel so bad for her!

i am sure she'll be fine, but would expect she's really scared...it is such a scary prospect!

just in case the surgeon's reassurances aren't enough...you could ask for a hospital social worker or psychologist for her to talk to, just to have a place to express her fears, other than to her mother...

she will be in my thoughts and prayers until she's recovered, playing and running and just being a child again...

best regards
jess

Jacque's Mom
11-17-2010, 10:18 AM
What are the vitamins and which brand are you taking? I'm thinking to donate my own blood as well.
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This is what I'm taking, per Dr. Boachie's instructions:
1. Ferrous Sulfate - 325 mg. - 3 x's day
2. Vitamin C - 250 mg. - 3 x's day
3. Folic Acid - 1 mg. - once daily (was by prescription)

My stomach has gotten used to them. I started taking the vitamins on 11/4, since I had to start taking them five days prior to my first donation. I was instructed to go to the New York Blood Center and being charged $147.80 per unit. My veins are so small that it takes a while to find it and also slow donating. Other than that, I've had no problem at all.

Good luck! LYNN

KathK
11-17-2010, 11:03 AM
Hi Lynn,
Were you instructed to stop taking vitamin C two weeks prior to your surgery? I was told to stop vitamin C for two weeks prior to surgery as it can increase bleeding. It was a bit tricky as C is added to many drinks like Propel and even the iced green tea that I drank. I cut back to just water, coffee, and milk.

backissues
11-17-2010, 11:54 AM
What about the general vitamins that include vitamin C? Should I stop taking those as well because they have vitamin C? Did anyone say anything about that?

I haven't been to my pre-op yet so I don't know what the drs will say.

KathK
11-17-2010, 12:29 PM
Hi Irene,

My instructions were to stop "vitamins E & C or multivitamins" two weeks prior to surgery. (I just went and looked at the instruction sheet :).) It also said to stop iron supplements.

Jacque's Mom
11-17-2010, 01:44 PM
KathyK - this is what the note from Dr. Boachie's reads:

"These medications should begin five days before the first appointment and please continue taking all of them until the day of your surgery".

I'm wondering why there is such a difference between surgeons. I'm curious to know if anyone that had Dr. Boachie as their surgeon had the same or different instructions. Thanks, LYNN

golfnut
11-17-2010, 07:29 PM
I just saw Dr. Lenke and Kelly today for my pre-op testing and neither said anything about stopping Vitamin C or multi vitamins. I guess I'll call about it since Dr. Lenke is Kathy's surgeon. I drink O.J. and take Juice Plus pills which have vitamin C. I also take a multi-vitamin.

golfnut
11-17-2010, 07:33 PM
After talking to Dr. Lenke today, he feels that the blood bank is as safe as any blood a family member would donate. He does not allow his patients to donate for themselves. My husband was going to donate, but we've just decided to use the blood bank. When I am well recovered from this surgery, I feel like I should donate whenever Red Cross comes to town. I have in the past, but it's been a long time.

Singer
11-18-2010, 07:32 AM
Lynn -- I had the same instructions from Dr. Boachie before my surgery. One thing to watch out for: the iron pills contribute to post-op constipation. I believe I was still being given the vitamin/iron regimen in the hospital and in rehab, but I cut them out once I was home.

JamieAnn
11-18-2010, 10:01 AM
I just saw Dr. Lenke and Kelly today for my pre-op testing and neither said anything about stopping Vitamin C or multi vitamins. I guess I'll call about it since Dr. Lenke is Kathy's surgeon. I drink O.J. and take Juice Plus pills which have vitamin C. I also take a multi-vitamin.

But isn't Vitamin E the problem for bleeding? Multi vitamins would normally have E, no? I was told to stop multi vitamins and fish oil.

golfnut
11-18-2010, 11:01 AM
Forget my previous post. I just looked over the materials from yesterday's meetings and I was definitely told to stop talking multi vitamins and vitamin C. I thought I was listening better than that! I'm blaming exhaustion after being at the hospital 10 hours for tests!

golfnut
11-18-2010, 11:03 AM
Clarifying-I will stop 2 weeks prior to surgery. I will keep talking my vitamins until then.

BadKitty
11-18-2010, 11:09 AM
Weird ... I was told to stop taking aspirin, fish oil & other antioxidants, but specifically to continue taking multivitamins!

LisaB
11-18-2010, 02:40 PM
I take a lot of vitamins and supplements. I could keep taking my multivitamin and calcium and vitamin d right up to surgery. They had me stop my daily baby aspirin, fish oil, flaxseed oil, glucsomine and co-q10. They also had me stop the same things 2 weeks before my pre- op appt so they could get an accurate blood draw.

Jacque's Mom
11-23-2010, 09:51 AM
Well couldn't donate the third unit yesterday as my HGB was 9.9 and the lowest it can be is 11.2. They suggested I come back on Friday, so I emailed Dr. Boachie's office and Lindy said either a family/friend can donate or HSS will have a unit ready if needed. I am going that route (HSS) as it's Thanksgiving weekend and people are away and it has to be soon for the processing, etc. To be honest, I'm exhausted mentally and physically and I don't even want to think about it. I donated two units and hopefully that will be enough, or as Lindy said, HSS will have a unit ready. Surgery is two weeks from today; my last day at the office is December 1st.

Wishing all a Happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for all your help. LYNN

loves to skate
11-23-2010, 10:22 AM
You are wise not to donate any more blood. Your Hgb is way to low to even think about it. In my experience working at a hospital blood bank, you will be fortunate if you Hgb comes back to normal in time for the surgery. I hope you are taking your Iron and that you won't need a transfusion prior to surgery. How about a nice meal of liver for Thanksgiving:eek: Only kidding. Try to relax and enjoy Thanksgiving. Sally