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flerc
07-14-2010, 02:40 PM
Has anyone tried this?
http://www.spineuniverse.com/treatments/magnet-therapy

Hans
08-03-2010, 03:15 AM
I am a therapist and I was very doubtful that magnets would do enough to be worth the expense. My scientific back ground made me aware that magnets do one thing they effect the speed and alignment of electrons.
The problem that therapists have is that tissue becomes swollen and resistant to movement and proper chemical response.
Proper placement of magnets of sufficient strength can speed up the electrons in the water molecules so that the water in the tissue can move more freely and interact chemically as it should.
I personally use a 3 inch by 1/4 inch neodymium magnet over the area of my generative vertebra where the scoliosis started.
When I was 55 I made a career change to become a massage therapist because I could no longer move the garbage cans. Now at 70 with 15 years of working with a chiropractor and applying the therapy I learned to my self and with the magnets to support the chemistry at my spine I am able to work harder than I could at 40 and my spine is straight.
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist

flerc
08-03-2010, 07:06 PM
Hans, how many degrees do you have? I'm looking for something that would strengthen the ligaments. Do you think magnets could do that?

Hans
08-20-2010, 01:33 AM
I have no degrees. Only some collage level science and massage and X-ray certificate study. Based on my massage training and research Ligaments are strengthened by the body's reaction to functional stress. Because of the density of ligaments the fluid flow that brings the nutrients in for repair and rebuilding is very slow. Magnets making the water to be in a smaller more active molecular state can possibly speed up the process.
Hans Albert Quistorff, LMP
Antalgic Posture Pain Specialist

Bigbluefrog
12-17-2010, 11:51 AM
hans, I believe he meant what is the curve measurement of your spine before you did treatment.
What degree of curve? Where were the curves?

And this magnetic therapy is intriguing...where did you learn of it?

Occasionally we notice magnetic bracelets at the State fair being sold as a cure all for the body aches. My dad wore one and thought it helped him.

Can you include any links? or info to help us better understand the process?

jrnyc
12-17-2010, 02:04 PM
i tried a magnet mattress when i was so sick with Lyme diseae...did NOTHING for me in any way whatsoever...i actually gave it away for free to someone who could pick it up and carry the parts out...after i paid $800 for them!

my personal opinion...and i have 3 graduate degrees...though none in medicine...:)
is that the power of suggestion is very very strong!
i do have 42 thoracic degrees and 61 lumbar degrees!

i wonder who has SCIENTIFIC proof they can put up against a rigorous test to duplicate the effects for others...??!!

jess

Karen Ocker
12-17-2010, 04:41 PM
You are advertising and this is not allowed.

I once fell for this scam; I bought a magnetic mat for pain to sleep on. I stupidly trusted the person, who was a doctor trying to make extra money, and it was useless.

Such magnets should not be near pacemaker patients because they can inactivate the pacing mechanism in the pacemaker.

I also bought magnetic soles for my mom's arthritis and it did not work.

Shame on you!!!!

Bigbluefrog
12-17-2010, 04:48 PM
i tried a magnet mattress when i was so sick with Lyme diseae...did NOTHING for me in any way whatsoever...i actually gave it away for free to someone who could pick it up and carry the parts out...after i paid $800 for them!

my personal opinion...and i have 3 graduate degrees...though none in medicine...:)
is that the power of suggestion is very very strong!
i do have 42 thoracic degrees and 61 lumbar degrees!

i wonder who has SCIENTIFIC proof they can put up against a rigorous test to duplicate the effects for others...??!!
jess
POwer of suggestion: YOU ARE HEALED!! Think Positive thoughts! ok now I feel better

Bigbluefrog
12-17-2010, 04:50 PM
maybe its placement of the magnetics? Ever google Crystal castle?


Their maybe some thing about magnetics, but its not developed or proven.

Pooka1
12-17-2010, 06:15 PM
Element 101, Symbol MT - Magnet Therapy, in the New Age Bollocks block within the Quack Block below the main table.

Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RQjQvxtmK8A/TEJLxLVEBvI/AAAAAAAADLY/EvwH1MI9WQM/s1600/Woo+Table+v1.4.png)

Before folks start new threads on various treatments maybe they can check this table first so as to save time.

Pooka1
12-17-2010, 06:20 PM
Ever google Crystal castle?

Element 39, Symbol Cr - Crystal Power, Credulous Block, Column 3.

Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RQjQvxtmK8A/TEJLxLVEBvI/AAAAAAAADLY/EvwH1MI9WQM/s1600/Woo+Table+v1.4.png)

titaniumed
12-17-2010, 10:46 PM
Sharon
Interesting periodic table....

I believe in zombies, I became one after my surgeries for awhile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie

A zombie is a creature that appears in books, films, scoliosis forums and popular culture. It is typically a reanimated corpse, or a human being who is being controlled by someone else by use of magic.

Instead of magic, it was heavy medication.....lol

I have worked around extremely powerful electromagnets used for workholding in surface grinders. My hands have been in the strong magnetic zones quite a few times, and have felt nothing. I still wouldnít dismiss magnetism and its effects, we just donít know enough about it, after all, we are just bunnies trying to cope.

Jess
Magnet mattress? Hmmm...Sounds like a great way to keep somebody in bed. Just put the chain mail on first! LOL
Did it come with a warning about your dental fillings possibly coming loose?

Ed

Elisa
12-17-2010, 10:56 PM
delete please

Elisa
12-17-2010, 10:57 PM
i tried a magnet mattress

And how many men did you attract to bed Jess? Haha, okay, I'm only copying Ed.

titaniumed
12-17-2010, 11:30 PM
Elisa

Hey, hey, hey, behave. Poor Jess had only half the equation.

They do have ladies chain mail, I try to think about that often....lol

I do work with metals everyday, so Iím excused.
Ed

jrnyc
12-18-2010, 03:00 AM
hey guys
the mattress filled with magnets came with no warnings...about fillings or anything else, just a bunch of phony promises! i think there was a magnetic headboard too...
total waste of $800!!

couldn't test out if it would keep somebody in my bed...the Lyme had me so exhausted all the time, i couldn't imagine even HAVING anyone in my bed!! :)

jess

Pooka1
12-18-2010, 08:38 AM
I have worked around extremely powerful electromagnets used for workholding in surface grinders. My hands have been in the strong magnetic zones quite a few times, and have felt nothing. I still wouldnít dismiss magnetism and its effects, we just donít know enough about it, after all, we are just bunnies trying to cope.


Protecting the bunnies is the task at hand. And it's a huge one when there is more nonsense out there than you can shake a stick at.

Love that the symbol for Element 5 is Id.

Just knowing there are clever people in the world helps keep me going.

foofer
12-18-2010, 10:02 AM
Sharon,

Did you know that today is International Be Nice to Bunnies Day?*



*This info provided may or may not be true. (smiley emoticon)

JenniferG
12-18-2010, 05:00 PM
Before I had surgery, my friend talked me into trying a magnetic wrap. She'd used one on her ankle after it had broken and felt it worked. I eventually bought a wide, strong band of elastic with magnets sewn into it and wrapped it around my waist held at the front with velcro. It worked. Well, the strong band of elastic worked, not sure about the magnets. It gave me just a little support and did ease my back when it was sore. At first I thought it was the magnets that were doing the trick but in hindsight, I think it was the support given by the very strong band of elastic. Now *that* might be worth recommending.