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flerc
03-26-2010, 01:36 PM
http://blogs.clarin.com/xiaoxue99/2010/03/01/bind-down-like-scar-tissue/
It’s one of the only two therapies I have heard that could regenerate the vertebrae discs. Could it be?

tonibunny
03-26-2010, 03:43 PM
Yuk! That blog is all about escort girls!

I wouldn't trust a prostitute with my spinal health :rolleyes:

titaniumed
03-26-2010, 04:45 PM
Nomination for thread of the month?......

Ed

Pooka1
03-26-2010, 05:03 PM
Nomination for thread of the month?......

Ed

Seconded.

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flerc
03-26-2010, 05:53 PM
OOoops! Sorry, I just only pasted the first page in English I have found telling about this massage and I didn't read what it says at the top..
I hope that Breuss don't lose credits for that!

mamamax
03-26-2010, 06:51 PM
Nomination for thread of the month?......

Ed

Third-ed :D

ok .. I presume this is the right one: http://www.dorn-method.com/index_files/BreussMassageDornMethod.htm

I know noting about it ... sounds good.

tonibunny
03-26-2010, 06:55 PM
It's OK, I Googled for more info on Breuss Massage. Here's what I found:

"The Breuss Massage is actively replacing in a sense a whole and healthy full night sleep by stretching the Spine and Using natural Oil in the Process the discs are nourished like the sponge given water. In this relaxed state the Spine also can be safely and painless re-aligned."


I don't really understand how this works I'm afraid, because the spinal discs are on the anterior part of the spine - you can't reach them from the back. So I don't see how massaging oil into the spinal muscles at the back would somehow allow the oil to sink right through the skin and paraspinal muscles and then travel around to the front of the spine in order to somehow enter the discs.

If anyone can explain how it is supposed to work I'd be fascinated to learn, because it sounds completely impossible.

Pooka1
03-26-2010, 07:25 PM
If anyone can explain how it is supposed to work I'd be fascinated to learn, because it sounds completely impossible.

Physical impossibility is no impediment whatsoever to the charlatan.

A good test for whether something is abject nonsense is if you try to make up some patently absurd claims about a treatment, no matter how hard you try to be absurd, the actual claims are even more absurd. In other words, you can't parody it.

Rain drop therapy and Clear's "mix-fix-set" are in this category and so is this Breuss massage I see.

jrnyc
03-26-2010, 07:37 PM
WHOOPEE...i dont need surgery now...i just go get a massage and presto chango...all fixed! :rolleyes:

jess

Pooka1
03-26-2010, 07:38 PM
Yep Jess.

Some folks can't think even one step ahead. If the claims were true then nobody would need surgery.

But they can't even think one step ahead.

flerc
03-26-2010, 10:30 PM
Well.. it seems to be more reasons for the nomination :(

tonibunny
03-26-2010, 10:36 PM
Sorry, Flerc :( It sounds like it would be a nice relaxing massage and that would probably help relieve muscular pain but I'd be very wary of trusting its efficacy as a treatment for disc problems.

jrnyc
03-26-2010, 10:59 PM
"if it sounds too good to be true..."
well, we all know the rest of that saying...

jess

flerc
03-26-2010, 11:28 PM
It's Ok, of course is so difficult to believe it could be true..even I have heard about Dorn as a serious method ..:confused:

titaniumed
03-27-2010, 12:39 AM
Flerc

Your efforts deserve praise, and you post in a foreign language. It truly is commendable....

Try not to worry too much about your daughter. Once we get over the shock of diagnosis, we adapt in our own ways and become quite resilient. Some of us adjust in different ways, and might go through pain spells, but mostly we are content and happy individuals... When we are young, life has so much to offer that scoliosis drops to the bottom of our thoughts, and don’t think about it too often. At least that was how I adapted.

I know a person with scoliosis and her daughter was diagnosed with scoliosis. I asked her what she was going to do? She told me "I don’t know". Ive been thinking about that for a while now, and I can honestly say, I wouldn’t know what to do either. Scoliosis can be easy or it can be a tough situation. I guess its all in the way we handle it on a personal level....Parent or patient. Its best to keep it easy.

Growing up knowing that some day I would need surgery all these years, was at times very scary. I eventually accepted it. I tried all sorts of alternative methods through the years, and used it for pain control. I always knew that surgery was the only thing that was going to halt my curves. Until there is some sort of cure, which will probably take quite a bit more time, I wouldn’t worry about it so much. Its not worth it. Take it one day at a time.

We do appreciate your posts on all these methods. I didn’t think that there were so many, and from all over the world. It just amazes me how many "quasi","pseudo" scientific methods there are out there. It is beneficial to know about these things, and to bring to this forum.

We also need a good laugh sometimes...
Un viaje a China parece una buena idea en este momento!
Ed

debbei
03-27-2010, 07:56 AM
There will always be people who fall for snake oil.

flerc
03-27-2010, 04:06 PM
Thanks Ed, I really appreciate so much what you said me. It's great for me to belong to this forum with people who can (despite my English) understand what I think and feel.
My wife tell me all the time that I should not to be so worried and obsessed, and I should to be focused in the fact that my daughter is a happy girl who had a happy infancy and now is having a happy teenage, and the worst I could do is to transmit to her in same way my worry. I'm sure it's true, in fact I have read about scientific reasons to believe that emotions could affect in a positive or negative way to the scoliosis.. so it's true, we must to laugh all we can and to be focused not in the darkness but in the light side of the life, and I'll we try for that.

Hace un tiempo que quiero ir a la China, para hablar con los grandes sabios, pero el chino es más difícil que el Inglés.

Fer

jrnyc
03-27-2010, 08:34 PM
Hey flerc
i would probably fall for every scam there was if i had to function in a language other than english...so i completely understand how that happened...
if i had to negotiate medical jargon in another country other than my native one, i wouild be lost! you're doing well...and obviously, you just want the best for your daughter....she is lucky that she has you to look out for her..

jess

flerc
03-28-2010, 01:01 AM
Thanks Jess, I hope at least, to not be making so much and serious mistakes when I write..
I appreciate and I wish to believe what you say about my daughter.. In fact I feel I'm so useless, I know about of hundreds of therapies, theorys, products, disciplines of whatever kind could be imagine (much of them, much more credible than Breuss :)) but I'm not sure enough about what could be the best to do and risks paralyse me.. Sorely I don't have scoliosis, otherwise, every day I could experience with something different and I would be useful in fact.

Fer

Pooka1
03-28-2010, 01:06 AM
Mi hermosa amigo Fer, el riesgo de parálisis es muy pequeña. Los cirujanos pueden vigilar el paciente y esto ha disminuido la parálisis a muy pequeña. No creo que necesita para preocuparse acerca de esto.

Saludos,
sharon
(machine)

ps, Linda, can you please post the statistics about permanent paralysis WITH ral time nerve monitoring in T curves in teenagers if you know it? I am certain it is very small.

Thanks,
sharon

flerc
03-28-2010, 02:06 AM
Muchas Gracias querida Sharon! Como siempre muy grato escucharte.
Is good to know about low risks of paralysis, in fact I made a wrong translation of what I wanted to say. I was referring about the risks of performs new treatments. I have in mind a lot of its, but all of them implies some kind of risk that not allow me to do anything.
Los riesgos me paralizan. Espero no estar traduciendo todo tan mal.

Un abrazo
Fer